We have to renegotiate every deal. It's the law and part of the agreements made whilst within the EU.
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We have to renegotiate every deal. It's the law and part of the agreements made whilst within the EU.
I think its the result of years of relentless anti EU propaganda including the one coming from the remain camp who loved blaming everything on the EU. People got so brainwashed that they wouldn't listen to reason
Regardless of the recent vote, that's not the kind of society I want. It's about time we stopped with the in-fighting, and focused on the proper people to blame.
Problem there is if the people we want to make deals with still want to trade with the EU. Does that mean we have to undercut the EU? Does that then mean for the industries to make money they will have to lower wages?
Didn't work out well for them now, did it? Shot themselves in the foot.
There is no £350m to NHS or otherwise. Farage disowned himself from that claim hours after the result. He says it's a 'mistake' Leave campaign made. What a joke!
I agree fully with that. There was sod all from the Remain vote.
Its an easy mistake to make. Lets blame our incompetency to the foreigner in Brussels who cant get arsed to defend his case. It happens in both Malta and Italy too.
Who'd have thought that Nigel's promises would turn out to be like Successful's graph?
Brexit - When your friend who has no man tells you to leave your man and you leave your man and then you wonder what the feck you just did...
Isn't that by itself a reason to call a second referendum? Back home if someone messes with the NHS he will end up lynched
They probably should have come up with a figure like the infamous 350 million to focus minds. Instead, their warnings were all abstract, which was never going to work in a campaign based on lies and over-simplification.
Doesn't help that the 350m is actually a false figure, theres a 190m rebate on that. so really theres only 160m to spend.
It's like saying a chocolate bar costs you £1 when you get 70p change. On-top of that then the NHS is understaffed to begin with, they'll be making cuts to the NHS not funding it.
True specialists in the medical field are very rarely British, so then negotiations need to be done regarding social security, citizenship, access to NHS as a foreign national... its a land-mine.
After the vote of Brexit mostly being against multi-nationalism who the f--- would want to come to the United Kingdom to work and "save lives"?
The PMs will be getting a pay rise before the public see any of it probably.
The EU will help you, you are a big market at our borders.
It's not about undercutting the EU per se. It's about achieving conditions which are at least not worse than before. Since UKs GDP is far smaller than that of the EU they'll have less leverage to influence these deals to their liking.
Has the world ended yet? I'm scared to look.
I doubt it. Why would they? They are seen as deserters and future rivals.
The EU will have its set of problems to deal to
Well I've got 200k sitting doing nowt!
Evening Standard: The Brexit voters who wish they'd backed remain
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-who-wish-theyd-voted-to-remain-a3280361.html
Just how fecking stupid is this bloody woman.
Just how fecking stupid is this bloody woman.Think there were a few lies in there, but the remain campaign didn't take advantage of it, instead they used scare tactics, which not everyone appreciated. They should have just showed Brexit up for their lies.
The leave campaign aren't actually in charge of what happens, contrary to popular belief. If you thought we'd spend all the EU costs on the NHS because Nigel Farage said so then you've only yourself to blame.
Nah they were actually Hobbits. They use them for the tourism.
I've got a birthday coming up wink wink nudge nudge
That's not a small lie. That's feckin big
Oh the joys of democracy. If you're not fully informed, don't vote.http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-who-wish-theyd-voted-to-remain-a3280361.html
Christ, what a bunch of fecktards.
If you believed a single word the populist campaign came up with you would only have yourself to blame.
Murdoch played his part too. Did you read The Sun over the past few days!
Because unlike you, they don't act like petulant children at all time
. The EU will try to take a lot of companies out of England, for example it makes no sense to keep Airbus in England and we could and should steal Nissan and many other companies from them but it they are in a really bad situation, which is unlikely, we will help them.According to my Facebook news feed it has but I looked outside earlier and it looked how it looked yesterday
Because unlike you, they don't act like petulant children at all time
The EU is not a charity mate, we've seen that with Greece and they are one of our own.
Maybe we would help them if we can divert all immigrants to the UK. Those billions directed to Turkey may be taken by the Brits....
You should have put it in gold last night.
As it stands you might be able to catch things on the way up in a few days.
What's is going to make it worse is the time lag leaving many companies in the limbo. UK has decided not to invoke Art.50 till October. Then exit process begins which is expected to last till mid 2019. There is a big possibility that EU will play hardball...which means they'll start the renegotiation (with EU member nations) only AFTER UK exists completely and that means 1 to 2 years after 2019. Add in another General Election called by new PM plus expected Scottish Independence referendum (and maybe Irish) and you can see UK economy is pretty much fecked for next 3-5 years with mild to medium recession predicted.
Because unlike you, they don't act like petulant children at all time
We certainly wouldn't shut down our borders for british refugees
How quickly could Scotland pull out of the UK and get itself accepted back into the EU?
The EU is not a charity mate, we've seen that with Greece and they are one of our own.
Maybe we would help them if we can divert all immigrants to the UK. Those billions directed to Turkey may be taken by the Brits....
It's not out of charity, they are a potentially big client, it's best for us if they can spend their money in our market.
Oh ffs barros has widened to UK politics now.
It was tongue in cheek, but who are the "proper people to blame" if not the voters who decided it?
So none of Tory/Lab/LD want to leave the EU. Can they not just postpone article 50 until after the next GE, all campaign on staying in = new mandate.
like...by Tuesday?
Don't think it would be a big deal on the EU side. The political infrastructure is already there, probably just a bit of reworking on the framework of the UK deals, and be good with it. I'm pretty sure it would be seamless transition, i.e. Scotland would be an EU member from day 1.