Honest John
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And CornwallPoor Scotland. Hope they get their independence.
And CornwallPoor Scotland. Hope they get their independence.
Astonishing.http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...edge-disowns-350-million-pounds-a7099906.html
Just watch him. This is a guy who never expected any of this to go this far and he is absolutely shitting bricks at the mess he has caused.
Which was caused by the bankers and politicians. And the point being made was that the bailout and austerity was effectively a success. It wasn't fun and yes the wrong people were held accountable but with something like an economy unfortunately you don't get to hang around for justice. you have to act immediately to stop the rot and the Irish people banded together to do it.Did you even read the post? I never mentioned anything about Irish banks or politicians being 'absolved' from anything. You do know that Ireland was forced into a bailout right?
Football will be replaced by a new sport, played by mutated dwarves who will be suspended 500 feet in the air and dropped onto 8 foot tall giants holding spiked clubs, who will hit them into a jet plane engine. The goal will be rewarded to whoever can spray the audience in the most blood and every half time will be a huge brawl of the audience as they scramble to eat the bloody remainso left on the field.Yeah yeah, but what about the football?
Of course it's pure speculating from me, I'm just saying what might happen. Obviously Britain might go to shite and ask politely to be taken back in for what it's worth.
Our economy is propped up by direct foreign investment from the USA. Ireland is the biggest receiver of inward investment from the US in the world. So, in what alternate universe does money from the US increasing the Irish GDP have anything to do with Europe, other than Europe trying to control Ireland corporate tax rate in an effort to redirect that investment to the European centre.Lot of bullshit right there as well.
And as far as I'm aware, your economy does fare quite well again doesn't it?
By the way, partly because the EU allows you dumping taxes. So it's not like you are not trying to screw others over, everyone does it, get off your high horse.
Of course prices on commodities will always change from day to day like they always do in an free market.Apart from fuel/energy prices (oil, coal and gas imports will be priced in $/€) and probably interest rate rises although it's still hard to know how/when the BoE will call that one.
In France the problems are local, it has nothing to do with the EU. People don't care about Brussel, you shouldn't listen to the press who gives way too much credit to Le Pen or Melenchon, they are both idiots and liars.
Yep, I get it.
Mikke is a bellend of the highest order. I was once convinced by a mate to go to his 2-day convention with all the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime from his party being there. It was hilarious but at the same time absolutely scary how insane those people were, I've never seen such density of idiots in one place.
No It is done. We are leaving the EU.
Over 65s voted overwhelming in favour of leaving the EU while the younger generation, who will live with the consequences, voted stronger to remain but it wasn't enough.
Nothing will change in the immediate future it will probably take at least 2 years before you will see some real changes to your everyday life.
Cameron's last derisory attempt to do this showed him asking for less than he originally said he'd ask for..... and then not even getting that. So "change from within" was not going to be possible.
Dead right. Stirs up a hornets nest and walks away. Lazy b*****d. didn't even turn up for work when he was an MEP. Now he's got what he want he should be made to work his balls off to ensure that the people of this country benefit like he said they would.Christ, what a fecking toad of a man.
Of course the markets will change from day to day like they always do. I was talking about changing laws and GB leaving the EU and that will not happen overnight.Thanks for the response. Although with the pound dropping aren't we already seeing changes? I guess everyones expecting that to go back to normal soon...
No, the bailout completed, calling it a success is a complete arse about face way of saying that it was a complete disaster that resulted in mass emigration of young people, a lost generation of 39% unemployed from age 18 - 25. People lost everything, people with children who need special care left to fend for themselves. How the feck is that a success? But Europe did well enough out of it. We will pay them billions in interest for being the victim of a lassie faire approach to banking regulation implemented by the European Union.Which was caused by the bankers and politicians. And the point being made was that the bailout and austerity was effectively a success. It wasn't fun and yes the wrong people were held accountable but with something like an economy unfortunately you don't get to hang around for justice. you have to act immediately to stop the rot and the Irish people banded together to do it.
Can someone quickly sum up what this means to someone who has literally no idea? I know as much as someone who'd just fell onto this planet.
Of course the markets will change from day to day like they always do. I was talking about changing laws and GB leaving the EU and that will not happen overnight.
That's what a bailout is. So yes, we absolutely did get a Bailout.no we didnt get a 70 billion bailout from them. We got a loan which we have to pay back. And bankers are bankers, Irish / German. Why would Germany refuse to let us burn bank investors in Ireland yet they are able to burn bank investors in Germany?
Im curious to know that after seeing the aftermath and another referendum were to be held would the result remain unchanged? Obviously we'll never know
Leave won a public vote to break ties with Europe, based on a lot of misinformation and straight up lies.Can someone quickly sum up what this means to someone who has literally no idea? I know as much as someone who'd just fell onto this planet.
Thing is, these bailouts aren't an EU problem. That is just a symptom and key element of state capitalism which is not something that will go away. Chomsky is right in this one at least: in the current capitalist systems, risks and negative consequences are socialised while profits are privatised.Did you even read the post? I never mentioned anything about Irish banks or politicians being 'absolved' from anything. You do know that Ireland was forced into a bailout right?
Well, then you know exactly as much as the best informed person on the planet on this matter.Can someone quickly sum up what this means to someone who has literally no idea? I know as much as someone who'd just fell onto this planet.
Noted mate.
Ireland will be massively affected by the exit, in a very negative way for the next few years at least.Gibraltar - Are they going to want to leave the UK or the EU if they have to make a choice
Ireland - not sure how that will go (boarders? - unification referendum? - carry on as they are?)
Some big issues to try and resolve beyond the immediate and obvious Scotland and article 50 issues
Manchester 60.4 % to remain.
Biggest cities voted to remain as I understand?
Well, we wouldnt have had to do anything because the very essense of capitalism is profit and loss. The bank would have lost, the billionaires who owned shares would have lost some of their money, as is what would be expected in a capitalist system. We can only guess as to what effect it might have had on the Irish economy and Irish jobs.That's what a bailout is. So yes, we absolutely did get a Bailout.
Ask yourself - what exactly would we have done without that loan?
The idea that the EU hasn't been a great thing for Ireland over the last few decades is short-sighted and daft, quite frankly. And we're now going to see a large loss of GDP due to Britain leaving it. Now imagine if we no longer had free-trade with every other EU country, access to their workforce, and most importantly, large multi-national companies being able to use Dublin as their international headquarters, which would never have happened if we weren't in the EU.
Come to Hungary and I'll take you to a Jobbik convention. Then we can rate and compare our idiots! Such fun.Yep, I get it.
Mikke is a bellend of the highest order. I was once convinced by a mate to go to his 2-day convention with all the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime from his party being there. It was hilarious but at the same time absolutely scary how insane those people were, I've never seen such density of idiots in one place.
Football will be replaced by a new sport, played by mutated dwarves who will be suspended 500 feet in the air and dropped onto 8 foot tall giants holding spiked clubs, who will hit them into a jet plane engine. The goal will be rewarded to whoever can spray the audience in the most blood and every half time will be a huge brawl of the audience as they scramble to eat the bloody remainso left on the field.
Sports will be scarce though as frequent attacks from the cult state of the new dominant religion Borisamy terrorises the local villagers, forcing them ton take shelter in abandoned rabbit holes.
That is exactly what it means, yes.So I saw on the BBC that if parliament decide to remain in the single market.
It means Uk will still have to pay into the EU & the free movement remains the same..
I'm not to famillar with politics.
So if this occurs, does that mean 90% of voters voted leave for no fecking reason?
I spent so long taking the piss out of Americans for thinking Trump was a remastered Jesus reincarnated.
And then the UK population does this
In the coming months I think there will be a high degree of uncertainty about what will happen now that will make the financial markets very volatile. But as you say in the long run 1-2 years is a relatively short time and the long terms effect on this vote are very hard to predict.1-2 years is a short time for economy, you had lost 350billions in just 5 hours, it's like being hit by a truck, the first hit is the biggest, the rest is just comma