Television Breaking Bad

Watched the last three episodes in one go and then read the latest comments in this thread. I think the episodes have been good but agree that some of it feels a bit rushed. Definitely a step down from the earlier seasons so far.

One thing I dont like in particular that no one else has noticed is how powerful Todd's uncle seemingly is all of a sudden. This goes for the ending of S5a as well. Didnt Mike even say that "he checked those guys out and they are nothing to worry about" ? But all of a sudden they are capable of making highly coordinated hits in ten different prisons as well as easily overthrowing the leading drug gang.. Makes little sense to me.
 
'nothing to worry about' meant that they weren't going to kill Walt/Mike/Jesse. Really, Todd's the fecking boss now, he's gone from criminal intern to best meth cook in the world, in a relatively short period of time.
 
Did the show ever explain exactly why Walter White ended up as a badly paid high school teacher?

He's clearly a full-ball genius and was the brains behind the Grey Matter Corporation before being screwed out of the partnership, so what happened then to cause him to be so undervalued in life?

The whore Skyler got herself up the duff (probably not Walt's kid btw, we know how she likes to sleep around and Jnr looks feck all like Mr White) and we saw the pair of them in their earlier days first moving into the White residence, but what went wrong then which meant he ended up how he did?

You'd think there would have been countless pharmaceutical/biochemical companies fighting out for Walt's signature after Grey Matter Corp hit the big time. Why couldn't he find out better job than teaching Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime like Jesse Pinkman about the periodic table and shit?
 
Is the fact BB’s timeline is only one year the worst thing about the show?

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Nope; it's one of the best things. Walt has cancer, and he's doing something highly illegal. How long can he really get away with it all?

It also makes sense really. Virtually every programme as a rule of thumb uses a week to space out an episode, but tend to use that same week when spacing out the gap between a season, meaning the off-camera, loads of time is passing. In Walt's world, everything is happening as we see it, nothing gets left out.

Did the show ever explain exactly why Walter White ended up as a badly paid high school teacher?

He's clearly a full-ball genius and was the brains behind the Grey Matter Corporation before being screwed out of the partnership, so what happened then to cause him to be so undervalued in life?

The whore Skyler got herself up the duff (probably not Walt's kid btw, we know how she likes to sleep around and Jnr looks feck all like Mr White) and we saw the pair of them in their earlier days first moving into the White residence, but what went wrong then which meant he ended up how he did?

You'd think there would be countless pharmaceutical/biochemical companies fighting out for Walt's signature after Grey Matter Corp hit the big time. Why couldn't he find out better job than teaching Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime like Jesse Pinkman about the periodic table and shit?

Remind me how he got screwed out of it? I thought he just took the $5k? The rest of your posts seems to stand up though, it's a good question.
 
Remind me how he got screwed out of it? I thought he just took the $5k? The rest of your posts seems to stand up though, it's a good question.

Well, not screwed out of it exactly then, though he certainly seems bitter about how shit went down in that regard.
 
Well, not screwed out of it exactly then, though he certainly seems bitter about how shit went down in that regard.

Yeah I recall that, but I don't remember how. The bitterness could be explained because it took off and he took his share.

It's when Gretchen says "I feel so sorry for you Walt" and he just rages up and replies: "feck. You." Awesome line.

But I'm pretty sure it's in that scene where he implies that they had a history, broke up, and got with Elliott.
 
Yeah I recall that, but I don't remember how. The bitterness could be explained because it took off and he took his share.

It's when Gretchen says "I feel so sorry for you Walt" and he just rages up and replies: "feck. You." Awesome line.

But I'm pretty sure it's in that scene where he implies that they had a history, broke up, and got with Elliott.

We knew before that though because he chatted her up in the first 90's flashback where he had the blackboard and was teaching her about the chemicals the body was made up of and was all, "Despite all our best efforts and research there's still one thing us scientist bods have never been able to find out, the one mystery of the body which we haven't yet been able to unravel... what your fanny looks like." or something.

Poor guy ended up with Skyler.
 
We knew before that though because he chatted her up in the first 90's flashback where he had the blackboard and was teaching her about the chemicals the body was made up of and was all, "Despite all our best efforts and research there's still one thing us scientist bods have never been able to find out, the one mystery of the body which we haven't yet been able to unravel... what your fanny looks like." or something.

Poor guy ended up with Skyler.

OT, but was/is that all true? That there's about 0.0004% of the body which is unaccounted for? How can that be? Ah sod it, it's another thread.
 
Watched the last three episodes in one go and then read the latest comments in this thread. I think the episodes have been good but agree that some of it feels a bit rushed. Definitely a step down from the earlier seasons so far.

One thing I dont like in particular that no one else has noticed is how powerful Todd's uncle seemingly is all of a sudden. This goes for the ending of S5a as well. Didnt Mike even say that "he checked those guys out and they are nothing to worry about" ? But all of a sudden they are capable of making highly coordinated hits in ten different prisons as well as easily overthrowing the leading drug gang.. Makes little sense to me.
For me this has been some of the best work of the series. In fact it's so enjoyable because it's a change in pace from the rest of the show. It's gone up a few gears and for very good reason too. Not that I didn't like the pace otherwise, but this, now, the way it is, just seems apt.
 
Yeah I've never really liked how they avoided explaining how such an unbelievable genius of a man only ended up being a high-school teacher. It's largely improbable unless he had absolutely no aspirations in his life, which they don't make out to be the case (do they?).
 
Yeah I've never really liked how they avoided explaining how such an unbelievable genius of a man only ended up being a high-school teacher. It's largely improbable unless he had absolutely no aspirations in his life, which they don't make out to be the case (do they?).
He sold his share in the company that he started when he was younger for a small sum of money, assuming that he'd become rich someway else. The company is now worth 2 billion, and he got himself nowhere. What more do you want, a detailed explanation of his entire life? Because that would be boring and unnecessary. He's a very good chemist who didn't become rich, it's not exactly out of the realms of possibility.
 
I hope Walt Jr suddenly throws his crutches away to reveal that he was faking it all along ala Kaizer Soze only for Hank to get pissed and shoot him in the legs and make him a cripple again
 
It's also to be noted that he was considered brainy at the start of the show for sure, but noone thought he was genius. Whether that's because his social/marketing skills weren't up to scratch or that he felt a lack of motivation, we don't know.

But to be fair, a lot of really smart people don't make it super rich in life. You need luck and circumstances as well as the right attitude to realise your potential.

But, like I said, it's very possible that he was simply a very smart individual and it's only his experiences over the past year that have shown his inner "genius".
 
He sold his share in the company that he started when he was younger for a small sum of money, assuming that he'd become rich someway else. The company is now worth 2 billion, and he got himself nowhere. What more do you want, a detailed explanation of his entire life? Because that would be boring and unnecessary. He's a very good chemist who didn't become rich, it's not exactly out of the realms of possibility.

Yeah.
 
I think they're going to make a spinoff based on the early (ier) life of flynn so you'll find out there.
 
That's not true at all. Who you root for personally depends not on who the writers want you to root for but rather on your own personality and which character you most relate to at any given moment.

People will tend to sympathise with people or things that strike close to home, naturally. Or indeed wish fulfilment idolatry. However most of these moments are deliberately manipulated for the average person to "relate" to. Or feel adverse to. Or whatever direction they'd like to point you in. Because they're writing these "given moments" Cider. They're not actually happening.

There's no set pattern of 'now you should root for A, now you should root for B' as you suggest

Yes there is. They're not just throwing some balls in the air and deciding what happens based on where they land and then going "well, people will just like whoever they like".

It's obviously not always happening, or will even work all the time. Sometimes it's just to feck with you, or get you to consider things more, but writing rooms will discuss in great detail using scene A to get the audience "onside" for scene B. Unless you think all shows are freeform realism intended to depict accurate situations and the chaos of life.

Ironically, the only thing written in such a free form "here are some characters, pick your favorites, random stuff is now going to happen to them" kind of a way, is Eastenders.

The whole point of the pilot, and indeed much of the first two seasons, was to get you to sympathise/care/root for Walter White before they turned him bad. It wouldn't have worked if he'd started out as already a bit of a prick.

You're right that people will tend take sides on extreme characters, and indeed pick their favorites (obviously) however..

rooting for Walt continously is in no way suggestive of one missing 'the point' since there just isn't any overriding point to miss as we're all free to make our own points and like or dislike whichever characters our personalities dictate that we like or dislike whenever we please.

This isn't the point I was making. By all means be attached to Walt, and root for him, but if that rooting gets to the point where the show must validate your character, and vicariously your personality choice, in order to succeed as a show, or even get the most satisfaction out of it, then you're missed the point. And indeed the greatness of the show.

That's the point I'm making. If my points are too confusing for you, perhaps you should stick to reading Liam's in future.
 
If my points are too confusing for you, perhaps you should stick to reading Liam's in future.

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How long does it take for those evil internet people to get the episode online?
 
That could be awesome.

Maybe the ricin is for himself on the proviso that his M60 spree goes as planned.

I really dont see how they can make it plausible for Walt to go on a M60 spree in the final episodes. Even if someone does kill someone he cares for, like his family, it doesnt make sense for him to go on any sort of spree. There is only one group left in the show that could be the target of a spree, Todd's uncle and his gang. But they havent even been more than minor characters untill this last season and in many ways they still are only minor characters.

It wouldn't be the worthy show finale if the final showdown is Walt against a bunch of guys who were introduced so late in the series. It could be a worthy season finale if this wasn't the final season, but as its the final season the end scenes should be about characters that have been present all throughout the show. Hank, Walt and Jesse, not some random goons who just became relevant.
 
One thing I remember thinking when Walt met the guy who gave him the gun was that the arms dealer seemed almost a bit hesitant when he wished him well. Said something like 'good luck...I guess'. Don't really know how much to read into that but I got the impression then that it was more than a matter of self-defence. It felt like the guy wasn't sure whether it'd be a good thing if Walt succeeded in whatever it was he was doing. Either that or he wasn't sure it was appropriate to wish him 'good luck'.