Thank you! That was the bit that was in. Oddly enough, that's in the pilot. They also had him nigh-on raping Skyler.
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Thank you! That was the bit that was in. Oddly enough, that's in the pilot. They also had him nigh-on raping Skyler.
Downloading now. 6min and counting!!! 
Apart from the overlong sitcomy Star Trek bit (which I assume was thematic, otherwise it was completely pointless) it was a really good, solid ep that started and ended incredibly strong. Special appreciation for Dean Norris's acting, which was the emotional core of the ep for me.
I noticed this when playing the pilot to someone the other day. I thought I was going mad. It's a real shame that new watchers on NF will miss a lot of the subtle bits that make it so superior to most television.
I noticed this when playing the pilot to someone the other day. I thought I was going mad. It's a real shame that new watchers on NF will miss a lot of the subtle bits that make it so superior to most television.
Re. swearing... didn't Skylar say "I fecked Greg" or whoever that guy at work she banged to get back at Walt?
Ah yes, I fecked Ted. I think that one got through, but it was quite essential.
Netflix is using AMC's original ones then I take it? I still have my original pilot(TVrip rather than dvd) and theres no swearing and she doesn't have the tits out either......
Are the subtle differences really of any importance?
Are the subtle differences really of any importance?
It's just a bit annoying. They don't show Jesse hitting his head on the rock outside the RV in the pilot either. The impact, anyway.
They didn't show the bit with Iron Man either.
It didn't. The "feck" was silenced out.
It's not like they can randomly go "hey American censorship thingie, I know we're a public network and this is a TV-14 show, but just this one time can we say feck, it's super important, pleeeeeease!"
It was a bit odd, I thought, good epsidoe but it felt disjointed because of the ridiculous break.
I seem to remember hearing the feck in that one, I guess it's different between the TV versions and the DVD ones.
It is.
A semi interesting read on that if you're interested which I was shown before:- http://www.reddit.com/r/breakingbad...ler_the_discussion_between_badger_and_skinny/
It had to be, because it's the first thing anyone would cut. As MikeUpNorth pointed out to me, there was probably something about connecting the three characters mentioned to Walt, Jesse & Hank too.
It still went on for far too long. Not to mention the implausibility of streetwise drug dealers like Badger & Skinny Pete being so into Star Trek & it's minutiae, and that if they actually were, finding the idea of a pie eating episode a good one. Minor quibble of course, but still one that didn't fit into the rest of the episode, or the series as a whole for me. Too much of the writer and not enough of the characters in it for me. Long pop culture metaphor monologues. Writers like those.
As for the ending. Hank shutting the garage door was every bit as epic, if not more so, as him decking Walt.
It still went on for far too long. Not to mention the implausibility of streetwise drug dealers like Badger & Skinny Pete being so into Star Trek & it's minutiae, and that if they actually were, finding the idea of a pie eating episode a good one. Minor quibble of course, but still one that didn't fit into the rest of the episode, or the series as a whole for me. Too much of the writer and not enough of the characters in it for me. Long pop culture metaphor monologues. Writers like those.
As for the ending. Hank shutting the garage door was every bit as epic, if not more so, as him decking Walt.
I think Jesse will come into it a lot from now as it is Hank's most realistic chance of building a case against Walt. Hank might even discover Mike's death and get Jesse to confess all.
Remains to be seen whether Hank even wants to build a case against Walt. It would be career suicide for him if it came into public notice. And I can't see Jessie confessing, he has nothing to gain and everything to lose from doing that imo
There's no way Hank can actually go public without destroying himself in the process, so yeah, it does seem likely he'll cop to the fact that Jesse was Walt's partner and try use him as leverage.
What profit a man if he shall gain the whole world but lose his soul.
I can see him grassing, if only to make peace with himself.
IMO If Jessie spills it will probably be because he finds out that Walt allowed Jane to die and almost killed Brock not to make inner peace with himself. But we'll see
I didn't really mind the monologue about Star Trek, and I didn't find it unbelievable at all, after all we've already seen that with these two guys there's more than meets the eye, remember Pete playing the piano? It's fairly believable that they were nerds during their teen years and well into Star Trek, no?
The last line was so fecking badass. It's back!
I missed it more than I miss some of my (distant) family.
I missed it more than I miss some of my (distant) family.
Leverage to what ? If he can't arrest him, he'll try to kill Walt ? Also what happens with Hank when he eventually finds out that Skyler knows everything about Walt but is still complicit with him ?
yeah that one.
As in, get Jesse to do it.
feck it, I've no idea, I mean that opening scene has basically blown everything out of the water anyway.
It doesn't work in either case. If they were proper fans, which their knowledge of certain planets and what not seemed to imply, then an episode about pie eating wouldn't be brilliantly received. Have you ever seen geeks arguing over cannon and plausibility? It was having your cake and eating it from a writing POV. Plus it went on too long.
It's obviously a massively minor quibble.
That's what being baked does to you, makes you retarded for a while.
It was still too long and indulgent. I'm not accepting any other opinion on the matter.
It was a bit overlong.
Personally I found all of Jesse's scenes a bit meh compared to the rest of the episode. Man the feck up and stop moaning, that was so season three.
This is epic
I thought Hank was gonna come running out of the toilet to accuse Walt who would point out to Hank that a piece of shit is still hanging out of his ass.
On another note, it's a tough decision for Hank now as him pursuing Walt will also have implications towards Walt Jr and the young child (cant remember the name)
On another note, it's a tough decision for Hank now as him pursuing Walt will also have implications towards Walt Jr and the young child (cant remember the name)
I recently watched it all from start to finish on DVD rather than Netflix. That one was censored on the DVD strangely, despite it being rated 18. I rewound it twice to double check to make sure it wasn't just a dip in volume in the whisper.
I don't quite understand the censorship of it. The graphic drug use, and the gruesome violence seems far worse than any swear word. The bit where all the guys in jail get wasted in such a short amount of time is pretty horrific, and when Gus slits the guys throat with the box cutter.
Censors have always been a weird, inconsistent bunch.
I'm sure that the whole 'Hank pretending he has the shits' thing was a wink at the audience over him 'being on the toilet' for the last year.
I wonder if Vince Gilligan writes these scenes and go all "Uuuuuuuhhh daaaaaamn, shit is going down son. Shit is going doooooown, mudafeckaaaaaa!!!!"
American censorship is mental though. Because of their crazy Religious beliefs and sex and insulting language, apparently it's ok to show shit like that on TV but not a pair of tits or a cuss word. It's the same with their films.
That's America for you - gruesome violence = fine, tits/swearing = THINK OF THE CHILDREN
EDIT: Cina beat me to it
EDIT: Cina beat me to it
If we're talking in depth here. Is it plausible Hank thinks Walt is any more than just the cook? What's lead him to know he's the big I am? Why would he think the prison killings etc were Walt, and not the cartel, Mike or just heavies Walt cooks for? Is there an earlier indication I've forgotten or is that all just hand waved by the garage investigation montage?
Could be when Mike's guys are bargaining with Hank in prison (in the last episode before the break) they mention Heisenberg, in fact highly likely they would. I don't think they explicitly showed them mention Heisenberg but certainly plausible.
Surely Heisenberg is the only person who will be outed by the people in prison now.
There was only Mike and the cooks left free from the Fring operation, and the DEA caught Mike's lawyer putting money in the prisoner's lockboxes and will have found his granddaughter's account in that room too, so he's already toast. There's no reason for the Cartel or the new organisation Walt cooks for to go after them in such an orchestrated fashion, as they had no information on them- killing them all in such a short space of time was clearly meant to silence them before they gave up Heisenberg's identity.
(edit: obviously, Jesse and Lydia would be outed too, but I mean people who are already on the DEA radar as being 'THE cook')
There was only Mike and the cooks left free from the Fring operation, and the DEA caught Mike's lawyer putting money in the prisoner's lockboxes and will have found his granddaughter's account in that room too, so he's already toast. There's no reason for the Cartel or the new organisation Walt cooks for to go after them in such an orchestrated fashion, as they had no information on them- killing them all in such a short space of time was clearly meant to silence them before they gave up Heisenberg's identity.
(edit: obviously, Jesse and Lydia would be outed too, but I mean people who are already on the DEA radar as being 'THE cook')
What about the sketch of 'Heisenberg'? The one that is pretty clearly Walt with his hat on.