Television Breaking Bad

I thought the house scene at the beginning was excellent. They really captured an eerie vibe to it where once upon a time a functional family lived inside the walls. All of that just went to complete and utter shit and for all we know, his entire family could be dead at that point.

I'm interested to know how the house got so thrashed, and the piece of heisenberg graffiti. Did squatters write it or did Walter himself on some sort of power trip
 
I think the end of that episode can be summed up with varying degrees of "oh shit."

Walt turns back around to Hank: "ohhhhh shit."
Hank punches Walt in the face: "OH SHIT!"
Walt goes all Heisenberg on Hank: "Oh shi---*thud*"

Episode was great throughout, but that last scene just took it up seven levels.
 
This episode was so good, one of the best in the entire show. The ending was fantastic. Glad they continued exactly where they left. Walt is awesome, how easily he found that Hank knew. Liked especially the part when he transformed in Heisenberg and made Hank look ridiculous. Interesting to see where the Jessie story is going on.
 
fecking hell, two pages!
KingEric7 said:
Jesse's character now seems extremely overblown, unfortunately. I get that he's having a bit of a moral crisis about previous events but he's way out of synch in my opinion. Compare that scene there with Walt with the bit at the end of the previous episode and the difference in quality and character interaction is huge. Nice spot though regarding Walter and his lack of paranoia about Mike - thought that was a good bit of dialogue.

That episode took a while to get going and I wasn't sure whether they'd exploited Hank finding out like they could've done, but that bit at the end was great. fecking hell...'tread lightly'. :lol: Sets it up nicely now...I thought it was going to be a more subtle cat and mouse sort of thing for a few episodes but the shit's hit the fan already.
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Whilst I loved watching it, I think they could've played it better. Walt crippled Hank, played with his emotions, lied to him for over a year, put his entire family in danger, and in the end he got quite angry and punched him. I was partly hoping he'd just kick the shit out of him, but as has been said, it was ace that Walt could know he was fecked and just stand there with Hank. Like you said I thought it'd take a while. I thought Walt would do what Gus did and leave the tracker somewhere else, so Hank could know that Walt knows about it. But they went for the flashy start instead. I'm glad they did.

Speaking of Gus, I wasn't the only one reminded of him when he was serving Lydia, was I?

Shane88 said:
I wonder who the ricin is for?
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I was a little disappointed by that. Chances are we're going to have to wait until the last episode to see it.


Also I can't imagine anyone objects to no spoiler tags? I guess you can just stay out of the thread. It is only a few hours you're waiting after all and it's making the page much harder to read.
 
I loved that Star Trek scene with Skinny P and Badger, thought it was hilarious. Clearly they are continuing to push Jesse's 'good-kid at heart' persona. I am sure Walt referred to him a son in one scene which highlights the dynamic from Walt's perspective but I think Jesse's becoming more and more disillusioned and I can envisage him snapping soon and doing something batshit crazy
 
Kinky Melinky said:
Nah man, the way she speaks does my fecking head in. She sounds like she has a speech problem and speaks in fast bursts or something
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That's how American people sound to me.




This was a bit disappointing for me as it happened a bit too fast for my liking
Revan said:
This episode was so good, one of the best in the entire show. The ending was fantastic. Glad they continued exactly where they left. Walt is awesome, how easily he found that Hank knew. Liked especially the part when he transformed in Heisenberg and made Hank look ridiculous. Interesting to see where the Jessie story is going on.
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Great episode. Expected it to take a while to build but I love that it's all in the open.
 
Liam147 said:
Whilst I loved watching it, I think they could've played it better. Walt crippled Hank, played with his emotions, lied to him for over a year, put his entire family in danger, and in the end he got quite angry and punched him. I was partly hoping he'd just kick the shit out of him.
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Cranston directed the episode.

"I didn't want there to be long exchanging blows, y'know this kind of thing (swings his hands), I wanted Hank to feel abject betrayal and pain. So he explodes but then instead of fighting he's holding on to me [walt] almost like 'I want to crush you but I wanna hug you' y'know it's just this--he doesn't know how to manage his emotions at that point, it's sad."
 
Few things I wanted to say, but I'll just spoiler one thing rather than trying to reply to people.

This is in no particular order, I've just read the last page or so. Firstly, when Walt was serving Lydia in the car wash, that was absolutely showing Walt having taking over as the Gus character.

I'm also wondering whether the speed of things being revealed so far is an indication of how quickly the story will catch up with the flash forwards. Basically, will we catch up to Walt retrieving the resin from the house by episode 5 or 6 and then the story will be linear from there? I think it's a strong possibility, since I'm not really sure what's going to happen to fill another 7 episodes now - it's going to be great to watch though! I'm sure there will be things none of us expect!

Also, I don't think Jesse is being "dramatic" at all; he has been through quite an ordeal the past two years of his life, and I'm sure he doesn't actually believe what Walt told him when he returned the money. Jesse knows that Mike is dead and I think Jesse is starting to realise the magnitude of Walt's action - which he has often aided or known about.

Whilst I'm sure we're all rooting for Jesse now, I am sort of hoping that he finds out all about Jane and Mike and Walt poisoning the kid too.

I want another episode NOW!
 
Liam147 said:
fecking hell, two pages!

Whilst I loved watching it, I think they could've played it better. Walt crippled Hank, played with his emotions, lied to him for over a year, put his entire family in danger, and in the end he got quite angry and punched him. I was partly hoping he'd just kick the shit out of him, but as has been said, it was ace that Walt could know he was fecked and just stand there with Hank. Like you said I thought it'd take a while. I thought Walt would do what Gus did and leave the tracker somewhere else, so Hank could know that Walt knows about it. But they went for the flashy start instead. I'm glad they did.

Speaking of Gus, I wasn't the only one reminded of him when he was serving Lydia, was I?
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I never drew the comparison, but yeah good spot!
 
Since the end of the first half of season 5, I watched the Sopranos, the Wire and Game of Thrones. One new episode was enough to remind me why I love Breaking Bad the most.
 
I think we'll catch up to the flash forwards before the final episode. We must be a fair few months after Walt's 51st now and the house looked like it had been in that state for quite a while.
 
Yeah, I'm thinking penultimate episode he's picking up the gun/ricin with a view to using it in the last one.

Also, I wish I hadn't read that speculative spoiler at the bottom of the last page. That sounds pretty damn likely.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Yeah, I'm thinking penultimate episode he's picking up the gun/ricin with a view to using it in the last one.

Also, I wish I hadn't read that speculative spoiler at the bottom of the last page. That sounds pretty damn likely.
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Same here:nervous:
 
Regarding that theory

I'm not convinced. The breakfast thing is different to cutting off your crusts, driving a volvo or having your drink on the rocks as it's something that Skylar did for Walt. Seems more likely to me that it was part of the flash forward to establish the timeline and also show that shit has hit the fan so much that Walt is celebrating his birthday alone in a diner rather than as a hint towards anything else.
 
Revan said:
This episode was so good, one of the best in the entire show. The ending was fantastic. Glad they continued exactly where they left. Walt is awesome, how easily he found that Hank knew. Liked especially the part when he transformed into Heisenberg and made Hank look ridiculous. Interesting to see where the Jessie story is going on.
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Yeah I love that. You can see him gradually switch. It's quality
 
Scrumpet said:
Regarding that theory

I'm not convinced. The breakfast thing is different to cutting off your crusts, driving a volvo or having your drink on the rocks as it's something that Skylar did for Walt. Seems more likely to me that it was part of the flash forward to establish the timeline and also show that shit has hit the fan so much that Walt is celebrating his birthday alone in a diner rather than as a hint towards anything else.
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Based on the more adventurous foreshadowing (737 Down Over ABQ) I'd be surprised if it wasn't. It may just have been to show that a year had passed, but I think far more has gone on.
 
The way his neighbor reacted tells that Walt has done something terrible (possibly murder), got identified as the killer and is on the run or something. That look of terror of her was like when you see in front of you a killer (he already is tbh).
 
I loved that. :lol: It's like she'd just seen some sort of Hitler/Bin Laden hybrid or something. An absolutely fecking monstrous evil.
 
Great episode!

Sets up the last episodes nicely I can't wait to see what happens. The last line from Walt to Hank was just fecking brilliant.
 
JmRssll555 said:
Few things I wanted to say, but I'll just spoiler one thing rather than trying to reply to people.

This is in no particular order, I've just read the last page or so. Firstly, when Walt was serving Lydia in the car wash, that was absolutely showing Walt having taking over as the Gus character.

I'm also wondering whether the speed of things being revealed so far is an indication of how quickly the story will catch up with the flash forwards. Basically, will we catch up to Walt retrieving the resin from the house by episode 5 or 6 and then the story will be linear from there? I think it's a strong possibility, since I'm not really sure what's going to happen to fill another 7 episodes now - it's going to be great to watch though! I'm sure there will be things none of us expect!

Also, I don't think Jesse is being "dramatic" at all; he has been through quite an ordeal the past two years of his life, and I'm sure he doesn't actually believe what Walt told him when he returned the money. Jesse knows that Mike is dead and I think Jesse is starting to realise the magnitude of Walt's action - which he has often aided or known about.

Whilst I'm sure we're all rooting for Jesse now, I am sort of hoping that he finds out all about Jane and Mike and Walt poisoning the kid too.

I want another episode NOW!
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I got the impression that the flash forward was way in advance; perhaps a year or so. For one, the house is completely derelict. It looks like it's been empty for quite some time, long enough for kids to come in, make it their own and build a skate board ramp in the pool.

Then there are the obvious ones such as Walter's hair and beard.

The next door neighbor's reaction to seeing Walt suggests to me that there has also been a significant amount of time. She is completely horrified and extremely surprised, hence she drops her shopping. If I am right on this, then I wonder how they are going to pull this one off in 7 episodes. It would seem quite odd if months had passed between each episode especially because of what Hank now knows.
 
Kinky Melinky said:
I got the impression that the flash forward was way in advance; perhaps a year or so. For one, the house is completely derelict. It looks like it's been empty for quite some time, long enough for kids to come in, make it their own and build a skate board ramp in the pool.

Then there are the obvious ones such as Walter's hair and beard.

The next door neighbor's reaction to seeing Walt suggests to me that there has also been a significant amount of time. She is completely horrified and extremely surprised, hence she drops her shopping. If I am right on this, then I wonder how they are going to pull this one off in 7 episodes. It would seem quite odd if months had passed between each episode especially because of what Hank now knows.
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The problem with this theory is that he's supposed to die in 6 months assuming Walt is not lying
 
kouroux said:
The way his neighbor reacted tells that Hank has done something terrible (possibly murder), got identified as the killer and is on the run or something. That look of terror of her was like when you see in front of you a killer (he already is tbh).
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I found the neighbor part to be very interesting
 
In general I don't really care about Skyler at all but I think it will be very interesting to see what happens to her. Hank is going to have to realize that she's known about Walter for some time and that she's been helping Walter hide it as well.
 
akash02 said:
The problem with this theory is that he's supposed to die in 6 months assuming Walt is not lying
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Yeah I hear ya, but I'm not so sure I believe that he's supposed to die in 6 months. I think Walt was playing Hank before stepping into Heizenburg mode. He was gauging to see if the pity card could win Hank over. In the instance that it wasn't washing with Hank, Walt switched to Psycho mode.

I wouldn't be surprised if Walt was trying to play Hank
 
akash02 said:
The problem with this theory is that he's supposed to die in 6 months assuming Walt is not lying
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I take all of your points, Kinky, and I don't disagree with any of them - but then this post is also true.

Walt has no reason to lie either, he's too badass to pretend to be dying again. He's clearly not bothered about Hank knowing his secret, so why would he lie?

It's a tricky one.
 
Kinky Melinky said:
Yeah I hear ya, but I'm not so sure I believe that he's supposed to die in 6 months. I think Walt was playing Hank before stepping into Heizenburg mode. He was gauging to see if the pity card could win Hank over. In the instance that it wasn't washing with Hank, Walt switched to Psycho mode.

I wouldn't be surprised if Walt was trying to play Hank
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Well the cancer clearly has came back, and his hair length in the future scene could just mean he's given up on his chemo. That's how I'm taking it anyway, so for now I believe his story to Hank.
 
I've just loaded up NetFlix and I have the house in the flash forward on pause. It seems that the lawn, tree and leaves on the roof look completely unkept. The back yard is pretty similar, and enough time has passed for graffiti to build up on the wall.

Given the state of the inside of the house there may well have been a few murders, hence the neighbors horrified reaction to seeing Walt. Perhaps Walt created a scenario whereby it looked like he had been killed. So why go back to the house and show your neighbor that you are still alive? That could be down to the ritalin (sp?). Perhaps Walt doesn't really give a shit that he's spotted because he's planning to top himself?

Either that, or his imminent death is just around the corner and he's going to kill one last person?
 
gza the genius said:
Well the cancer clearly has came back, and his hair length in the future scene could just mean he's given up on his chemo. That's how I'm taking it anyway, so for now I believe his story to Hank.
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I don't know if it's clear. I read an interesting "theory" which supports the one on the previous pages about taking traits from other characters.

Gus poisoned himself to trick the cartel into him being ill. Walt could be taking the chemo and tablets to give the illusion he's ill again when he's not, obviously this has it's flaws and it's not my theory so I can't really explain it all. He gives himself the 6 months to live stuff to give Hank a dilemma of what to do then he just disappears and people assume he's died of cancer when in reality he's gone in to hiding, hence the beard and hair, to passers by they wouldn't recognize him but obviously other people do (as was shown by Carol.) I don't know if it could work but it's a decent theory.
 
akash02 said:
Waiting another week is going to be torture
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That's why I'm kind of considering holding out until it's finished and then watching them all at my own pace. I managed to do it with The Game Of Thrones 3rd season, bit it'll be harder to do with Breaking Bad. It's the best show I've ever come across.
 
This is a difficult situation for Hank because IIRC he was recently promoted within the DEA right ? How can he deal with this Heinsenberg case whereas it was his brother-in-law all along who's been playing everyone from the start. Hank would be considered a joke within the DEA.
 
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