Television Breaking Bad

The GIF earlier in the page with Cranston and Paul switching roles in brilliant !!!! Great actors.
 
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Oh and just as an aside, I always find it interesting that the age of the internet means fans of TV shows analyse them frame by frame and dig up all sorts of hidden meanings and subtexts that even the writers probably have no idead about.

I mean, take this, for example:

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Bearing in mind the writers previously admitted to starting season 3 without knowing how it was going to end, how on earth could they have known how this episode would end way back in season 2?

I'd love to be able to say that everything is pre-figured. I'd love to tell you I'm Bobby Fischer and I'm playing this game 20 moves ahead, but it's just not true. The writers and I, once we created the Cousins and put them into motion, the problem that we saw for ourselves was, "My God, how do we pay this off?" It's the exhilarating thing about this job and it's the terrifying thing about this job: We actively try to paint ourselves into corners at the end of episodes - at the end of seasons, at the end of scenes sometimes - and then we try to extricate ourselves from those corners. So far, so good. But one of these days, we'll probably paint ourselves into a corner we can't escape from.

The Cousins were one of those corners, in a sense. We created these guys, wound them up and set them loose, and then we spent a lot of hours and days in the writers room asking questions of ourselves: "What happens next? How do these guys who are so desperate to kill Walt, what keeps them at bay?"

Even in a tight, well-written show like this you're getting theories about hidden messages that couldn't possibly have been intentional. So it's no wonder that a baggy, poorly-written mess like Lost ha generated reams and reams of internet nonsense about complext subtexts and allegories that were never intended to be there in the first place. The internet, eh?
 
Good point Pogue. The writers actually said Gus was never initially envisioned as the big bad villain. In fact in last season, it was supposed to be the cousins.
 
You don't need to know where the story is going to throw in hidden clues like that. Just put it there in the first place and bring it up in a hidden message when the time is right in the future.
 
Oh and just as an aside, I always find it interesting that the age of the internet means fans of TV shows analyse them frame by frame and dig up all sorts of hidden meanings and subtexts that even the writers probably have no idead about.

I mean, take this, for example:

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Bearing in mind the writers previously admitted to starting season 3 without knowing how it was going to end, how on earth could they have known how this episode would end way back in season 2?

I always took that as just implying that they designed the 2nd one to look like the first, when people brought it up, or just a weird coincidence. It's obviously not intended as some kind of clue or message because there's no way you could link the latter to the former without having already seen it.
 
You don't need to know where the story is going to throw in hidden clues like that. Just put it there in the first place and bring it up in a hidden message when the time is right in the future.

Alternatively,
singe a teddy because it's supposed to have fallen out of a burning aeroplane then - a couple of series later - decide it would be cool if Gus walked out of the explosion apparently unscathed by filming his profile from one side, concealing the horrific injuries from the camera.
just add internet speculation and you've got a complete coincidence turned into a hidden message by the writers.
 
Alternatively,
singe a teddy because it's supposed to have fallen out of a burning aeroplane then - a couple of series later - decide it would be cool if Gus walked out of the explosion apparently unscathed by filming his profile from one side, concealing the horrific injuries from the camera.
just add internet speculation and you've got a complete coincidence turned into a hidden message by the writers.

How many times did the writers use that trick in LOST?
 
Just realised a big Seinfeld link.. Walter, Skylar and Saul have all had parts in the show.
 
Also a link with ER in that Skylar, Hank, Marie and Jessie have all appeared in the show.
 
Just went start to finish on S4 over the past few days... WOW... a bit slow to start, but the last 4-5 eps were unbelievable.

This show is quickly moving into the lofty territory occupied by "the Wire" and the first 4-5 seasons of "the Sopranos" (right up until

MAJOR SOPRANOS SPOILER
they killed off Adriana

) as the best TV ever made. It puts some current favorites like "Sons of Anarchy" and "True Blood" to shame.

I do have some questions about the end though.

The whole poisoning / "I won" implication is not so clear cut in my mind... how did Walt deal with the loaded cigarette that Jesse had with him at all times?

It seems that the show can only be headed down the path of Walt vs the DEA, but where does Jesse fit into all of that, since by mere association with Walt, he implicates him with illegal activity (he's long been on the DEA radar).
 
The theory out there is that when Jesse went to see Saul, his bodyguard patted him down (which was strange) and pocketed the cigarette.
 
204Red, please avoid putting spoilers from other shows in this thread without tagging and labeling them. That Sopranos one was a pretty big one.

Sorry, my bad... will be more careful... although the show I reference did air almost 8 years ago, I guess some still haven't all the episodes.
 
Sorry, my bad... will be more careful... although the show I reference did air almost 8 years ago, I guess some still haven't all the episodes.

Totally understand, but keep in mind it's not like it aired on broadcast tv. People have certainly heard about it for a long time, but there's many who are just getting into it, especially since it's an HBO show.
 
Just finished watching Season 4. Phenomenal.

Better than The Wire for me, and not all that far below The Sopranos.
 
Just watched season 2 and while it was mostly good the episodes focused mainly on family were fairly boring and the ending was a massive slap in the face the way they had built up to it all the way through the season.

How does it go from season 2? I see people think season 4 is good, what about 3? (Im a bit afraid to look through the thread in full for fear of spoilers).
 
Season 2 is probably the weakest. Both 3 and 4 are good once Gus starts to become more prominent.
 
Totally understand, but keep in mind it's not like it aired on broadcast tv. People have certainly heard about it for a long time, but there's many who are just getting into it, especially since it's an HBO show.

I still haven't started. We got half way through the first episode and my missus hated it so we turned it off and I've never started again. She hates mafia stuff with a passion.
 
Just watched season 2 and while it was mostly good the episodes focused mainly on family were fairly boring and the ending was a massive slap in the face the way they had built up to it all the way through the season.

How does it go from season 2? I see people think season 4 is good, what about 3? (Im a bit afraid to look through the thread in full for fear of spoilers).

Season 3 was good, season 4 phenomenal. I can't really remember it too much now but I think I remember being quite disappointed with season 2 so persevere, it does get a lot better.
 
Last season was simply one of the best I've seen in any tv-show. Right now there's really no great show on, so I can't wait for the final season of BB.
 
On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being bad and 10 being excellent, how would the BB fans rate the show? I am looking for a new show to see and I am thinking if I should start seeing this.
 
Starts well in series 1, develops well in series 2, begins to raise its game even further in series 3 and series 4 is 10/10. The last episode ended so well you almost wished it wasn't coming back.
 
I actually thought season 3 was the best, it's incredible from start to finish. 4 on the other hand is quite slow for the first half but the second half, and especially the last 3 episodes are wonderful TV.
 
2 was really good, just the fact that

The mystery plot line throughout with the pool and pink bear turned out to be a complete red herring in the finale and pretty meaningless to the overall plot of the show itself.
 
Thats the thing that bugs me the most. They spent so long hinting about the

plane crash, and it turned out to be almost completely meaningless. Thoroughly depressing and completely glossed over is not something I tend to enjoy and really bugs me no matter what series or film do it

Fantastic series though.
 
I agree the whole plane thing was badly handled. The attempt to tie the plot in to the rest of it, but having Jessie's bird's dad as the air traffic controller, just came across as unnecessarily far-fetched. Though I did like the aftermath of the crisis, with all that contrived grieving at the school and Walt calling them all on it in that assembly. I thought that was nicely done.
 
The final episode of season 4 is one of the best t.v episodes of any show I've ever seen. I wouldn't give Breaking Bad full marks though as it can get boring at parts but definitely worth a watch.
 
Pine Barrens. Best single episode of a TV show ever. (Series 3 Sopranos.)

The Shield. Best show finale ever. Though not necessarily season finale, as it isnt a cliffhanger.

Agree the final episode of series 4 BB is dynamite tho.
 
The final episode of season 4 is one of the best t.v episodes of any show I've ever seen. I wouldn't give Breaking Bad full marks though as it can get boring at parts but definitely worth a watch.

Of course it has its faults, but I can't think of many TV shows I have enjoyed more. In fact I can only think of The Sopranos right now.