Television Breaking Bad

I reckon you've missed a trick. Have you not seen all the implying that Walt is a proud man. They even spell it out for you on numerous occasions. Why didn't Hank accept(*) help? Same reason. Why did Hank lie down in his final scene? Partly because he had a bullet in his leg, and also because he was too proud to beg for his life.

Hank lay down in the final scene because he'd been shot and tried to crawl for the shotgun. He got there but at the same time as the Nazis so he just rolled over to face him. If he'd have tried anything he'd have been shot instantly. He told him to go feck himself because he was too proud to beg.
 
Firstly, I said "to get out of bad situations" so that makes this part of your post quite contradictory.

Secondly, where did I say they were "in some way justifiable"? I just said I was on his side, doesn't mean I agree with everything he's done. He's done it to get out of bad situations he got himself in by initially trying to provide for his family.

If Walt is such a sociopath and out of control, what does that make of Mike? Yet everyone thought he was cool, right?

And offcourse Walt could have stopped earlier when he reached his goal midway season 1, but that would have made for a very short TV series...

He let Jane die and that nothing to do with getting himself out of a bad situation.

They're all multi-layered characters that have done disgusting things at one point or another which is why taking sides and defending your character is so silly. Yes there are certain characteristics you might identify with in a character more than the others, but why would you take sides? It's like kids talking about which Power Ranger they are.
 
Jane wanted nothing to do with him once she had the money.
 
Walt was keeping the money from Jesse for a good reason. Jane was a liability which threatened the continuity of the whole empire and had already threatened Walt directly. He'd never have killed her, but damned if he was going to save her life. Walt did the right thing in letting her die; the empire was worth far more than one junkie's life.
 
They already had the money, though. There was no threat to him or his empire. He might've let Jane die to save Jesse but there were a few occasions after that when he expressed a level of regret and remorse which suggested he thinks he made a selfish and poor decision.
 
He let Jane die and that nothing to do with getting himself out of a bad situation.

They're all multi-layered characters that have done disgusting things at one point or another which is why taking sides and defending your character is so silly. Yes there are certain characteristics you might identify with in a character more than the others, but why would you take sides? It's like kids talking about which Power Ranger they are.

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They had the money, sure, but how long would it have lasted them? If it didn't kill them then they'd soon be back for more. Jane had demonstrated the lengths she was willing to go to for personal gain; she'd threatened to roll on Walt and in so doing condemn his family to a life of poverty and shame - she was a loose cannon, a liability and a junkie who was far better off out of the picture. Walt might justifiably feel guilty about letting her die; people will alway question themselves when forced to choose the lesser of two evils; but he nevertheless made the right decision in allowing the girl to choke to death on her own vomit. The blue meth simply had to keep rolling and Heisenberg's identity had to remain protected.
 
They'd have gone to New Zealand and lived happily ever after.
 
He let Jane die and that nothing to do with getting himself out of a bad situation.

They're all multi-layered characters that have done disgusting things at one point or another which is why taking sides and defending your character is so silly. Yes there are certain characteristics you might identify with in a character more than the others, but why would you take sides? It's like kids talking about which Power Ranger they are.
By 'choosing a side' I don't mean hanging up posters above my bed, like I do with the Power Rangers obviously.

I don't care if he dies a painful death seeing as it's a fictional character but the majority of people will be rooting more for one side than the other, surely? I don't think that's so weird or childish to be honest.
 
until they overdosed in each other's arms

I do think that with Jane he made a selfish decision based on her blackmailing him and when he asked how he could know they wouldn't come back and do it again in the future, she said 'you don't' so he made a call to not save her to solve his problem- but I think he also tried to justify it in his own mind by saying he was protecting Jesse from a negative influence that would lead him to choking on his own vomit in the future. I personally think he felt more remorse about how Jane's death affected Jesse, and her dad afterwards than he did for the actual event.
 
until they overdosed in each other's arms

I do think that with Jane he made a selfish decision based on her blackmailing him and when he asked how he could know they wouldn't come back and do it again in the future, she said 'you don't' so he made a call to not save her to solve his problem- but I think he also tried to justify it in his own mind by saying he was protecting Jesse from a negative influence that would lead him to choking on his own vomit in the future. I personally think he felt more remorse about how Jane's death affected Jesse, and her dad afterwards than he did for the actual event.

I always thought him letting Jane die was more about protecting Jesse than it was protecting himself, he looked like the father of a naive girl in a film who falls for a guy from the wrong side of the tracks. He cared for Jesse and he could see that while he loved her, she was toxic for a guy like him and it was inevitable that one of them would end up going the way she did and he was damned if he was going to let it be Jesse.
 
I don't think he realised that Jesse cared so much for her, hence the look of horror on his face when Jesse comes out with "I loved her". To me that suggested that he was doing it to protect Jesse but ultimately realised that it wasn't protecting him at all.
 
Actually thinking back about the context of the scene, being just after he met her father who says 'don't give up on family' after Walt says he's like a nephew, it's far more likely that it was a questionable attempt to protect Jesse, so you are right- letting her die wasn't to get himself out of a bad situation, even if it did benefit him by saving him from the potential future blackmail
 
Right. Mobiles off. Internet blackout.

The beauty of this show is that outside of the virtual world so few people still know about it. It's not been on 'proper' TV over here yet has it?
 
Pretty incredible seeing the rise in popularity this show has had in the last year. According to wikipedia, the show had between 2-3 million viewers in the first half of this season, and then now its been between 4-6 million viewers.

Right. Mobiles off. Internet blackout.

The beauty of this show is that outside of the virtual world so few people still know about it. It's not been on 'proper' TV over here yet has it?

Really? Everybody loves it where I am. In fact I'd say the show that surprisingly not many people talk about is Game of Thrones (which I still rate above Breaking Bad as the best show, as good as this is).
 
Pretty incredible seeing the rise in popularity this show has had in the last year. According to wikipedia, the show had between 2-3 million viewers in the first half of this season, and then now its been between 4-6 million viewers.



Really? Everybody loves it where I am. In fact I'd say the show that surprisingly not many people talk about is Game of Thrones (which I still rate above Breaking Bad as the best show, as good as this is).

Yep. It's not that well known over here still. People may have heard of it but not many have watched it.

Probably due to it mainly being only available on Netflix and dvd.
 
Lot of people saying "filler", but I loved it.
 
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Oh God, I'll miss this show.