Television Better Call Saul | Includes Breaking Bad Spoilers

Okay I'm on the 2nd episode of the current season and it's as slow as ever. Too many episodes completely bore me.

Without giving anything away, does it pick up? I know you meet Gus in this series, or I assume you do as he's shown in the image on Netflix, but does it get more interesting?

I've just watched about 5 minutes without a word being spoken and the big reveal is Los Pollos Hermanos!
 
Bubz27 said:
Okay I'm on the 2nd episode of the current season and it's as slow as ever. Too many episodes completely bore me.

Without giving anything away, does it pick up? I know you meet Gus in this series, or I assume you do as he's shown in the image on Netflix, but does it get more interesting?

I've just watched about 5 minutes without a word being spoken and the big reveal is Los Pollos Hermanos!
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Tbh I think you either enjoy it or you don't, it's just that kind of show and it's Gilligan's style. I am not sure "it gets more interesting", as basically majority of episodes are mostly at about same level of interesting, IMO.
 
Welsh Wonder said:
This season does pick up the pace. Much quicker than the previous two I'd say.
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How drunk were you when you watched it though? Like Tuesday afternoon drunk, or Friday evening fecked drunk?

Seriously though, I guess I'll see the season through.
 
Amar__ said:
Tbh I think you either enjoy it or you don't, it's just that kind of show and it's Gilligan's style. I am not sure "it gets more interesting", as basically majority of episodes are mostly at about same level of interesting, IMO.
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I have enjoyed the first 2 seasons. Maybe I'm just bored in general and found this extra boring.
 
Bubz27 said:
Tbf I'd only watched 1 episode when I posted.
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No wonder you think it's slow, you are watching 2nd episode for two hours now(that first post was around 21:30). Are you sure you are not Welsh Wondered tonight and watching it accidentally on 0.5 speed?
 
Still keeping up, but barely. The show is comfortably behind The Leftovers, Fargo, and Silicon Valley on my DVR for me. Haven't started watching Twin Peaks: The Return yet either, but I suspect I'd enjoy that more too.

Agree with @Amar__. After almost 3 seasons of waiting for it to pick up and get better, realized that's never gonna happen and the show is what it is.
 
Amar__ said:
No wonder you think it's slow, you are watching 2nd episode for two hours now(that first post was around 21:30). Are you sure you are not Welsh Wondered tonight and watching it accidentally on 0.5 speed?
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Nah mate. I finished the episode about 15 minutes after that post.
 
I could have sworn Kim was a goner there. Not sure how her only being badly injured affects things. Maybe the stress it will cause means she'll flip it out at Jimmy and something happens there...

Also expecting Chuck to go to court with HHM and have a severe breakdown and for Jimmy to be busted going to Sandpiper to visit the old folks.

Big finale incoming. Is it the end of the show? Will we have a season with Jimmy as Saul?
 
S03E09

If I didn't have a step-mother called Irene that was really a nasty piece of work I'd have felt Jimmy had over-stepped there somewhat … however, all things considered – fair dos!

Quick question: Anyone else notice that the car couldn't have come off the road where it did? The crane shot ending panned showing the road and a white post with a yellow/black chevron was standing directly in the way of where she'd have left the tarmac – one of the tyre tracks actually go straight through where the post is. Perhaps I'm wrong or being overly picky??
 
SqueakyWeasel said:
S03E09

If I didn't have a step-mother called Irene that was really a nasty piece of work I'd have felt Jimmy had over-stepped there somewhat … however, all things considered – fair dos!

Quick question: Anyone else notice that the car couldn't have come off the road where it did? The crane shot ending panned showing the road and a white post with a yellow/black chevron was standing directly in the way of where she'd have left the tarmac – one of the tyre tracks actually go straight through where the post is. Perhaps I'm wrong or being overly picky??
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Will have to look at it again, can't say I paid that much attention :lol:
 
SqueakyWeasel said:
S03E09

If I didn't have a step-mother called Irene that was really a nasty piece of work I'd have felt Jimmy had over-stepped there somewhat … however, all things considered – fair dos!

Quick question: Anyone else notice that the car couldn't have come off the road where it did? The crane shot ending panned showing the road and a white post with a yellow/black chevron was standing directly in the way of where she'd have left the tarmac – one of the tyre tracks actually go straight through where the post is. Perhaps I'm wrong or being overly picky??
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Yeah, that was poor I thought. Actually I thought the storyline with her was very rushed if not poorly worked out
 
FCBarca said:
Yeah, that was poor I thought. Actually I thought the storyline with her was very rushed if not poorly worked out
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It's all a bit stupid anyway. As I've said, a number of times previously on this thread, she's taking on huge clients that have briefs that would have a whole %$£@± of paralegals* working on them in any other firm (all billing hours). Surely, given the fact that Jimmy can'y practice law at the mo, the logical thing for their partnership would be that he helps with the boring stuff and the heavy lifting - he's not unknown for pulling rabbits out of hats either so it's a win-win IMHO. But there again the show would not go any further if that were the case so … feck logic, eh!?

*Wasn't sure of the correct collective term for a group of paralegals … perhaps it's a "Louis Litt"
 
SqueakyWeasel said:
It's all a bit stupid anyway. As I've said, a number of times previously on this thread, she's taking on huge clients that have briefs that would have a whole %$£@± of paralegals* working on them in any other firm (all billing hours). Surely, given the fact that Jimmy can'y practice law at the mo, the logical thing for their partnership would be that he helps with the boring stuff and the heavy lifting - he's not unknown for pulling rabbits out of hats either so it's a win-win IMHO. But there again the show would not go any further if that were the case so … feck logic, eh!?

*Wasn't sure of the correct collective term for a group of paralegals … perhaps it's a "Louis Litt"
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I wondered about this before too but pretty sure the logic there is that Kim is reticent to involve Jimmy in any of her work owing to his propensity to pull a Slipping Jimmy

I thought the whole oïl derrick bit was strange. Were we supposed to accept how worn out she is, hence the mishap & near fatal accident with her car leading to the auto accident? And then, what, she fell asleep at the Wheel and end up in a ditch? Her storyline just seemed either rushed or there's quite a bit of film still on the editing floor that wasn't used.
 
FCBarca said:
I wondered about this before too but pretty sure the logic there is that Kim is reticent to involve Jimmy in any of her work owing to his propensity to pull a Slipping Jimmy

I thought the whole oïl derrick bit was strange. Were we supposed to accept how worn out she is, hence the mishap & near fatal accident with her car leading to the auto accident? And then, what, she fell asleep at the Wheel and end up in a ditch? Her storyline just seemed either rushed or there's quite a bit of film still on the editing floor that wasn't used.
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Crazy isn't it?

This time last series we're all screaming for the stroy-line to speed up – and now … :lol:
 
SqueakyWeasel said:
S03E09

If I didn't have a step-mother called Irene that was really a nasty piece of work I'd have felt Jimmy had over-stepped there somewhat … however, all things considered – fair dos!

Quick question: Anyone else notice that the car couldn't have come off the road where it did? The crane shot ending panned showing the road and a white post with a yellow/black chevron was standing directly in the way of where she'd have left the tarmac – one of the tyre tracks actually go straight through where the post is. Perhaps I'm wrong or being overly picky??
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Yeah, I felt so bad for the little old lady :(
 
S03E10 Series 3 finale (braces himself for some serious plot twists)

Can't work Kim out, if she was billing so many hours that she only slept one night in a week, leading up to the crash, she should have passed some of the grunt-work over to a hired paralegal (or two) as I've mentioned on here before somewhere. Pyjama butt was impressive IMA!

The Charles thing was confusing IMO, they've done such a good job this series draining me of every last drop of sympathy I ever had for the character anyway that to then show the walk of shame and the 10 minute breakdown where he trashed his house (proving that even though he knows it's not real doesn't mean he doesn't still feel it) was a bit redundant really … I threw a party!

The Jimmy "I'm only good at tearing stuff down" comment slightly validated the preceding Chuck scene a bit I suppose but 10 minutes of my life for a throw-away quote :lol:.

For a confidence trickster to fall on his sword so moralistically helped to build a bond with the character (who was somewhat unlikeable in BB) but even so, was kinda hard to swallow!

All in all, definitely the best season yet … spoiled somewhat by the predictability and slow pace of the finale.
 
I don't get the critisicm of it being predictable. How can it not be? We already know Hector is in a wheelchair in BB and that Kim and Chuck aren't around. It's impossible for the outcomes to not be predictable.

On a side note, I really, really like Howard. Great character.
 
Not gonna lie I really only watch it because of my love of BB. Had I not seen BB and I wasn't waiting to see how things became the way they were, I'd have long given up on this show.

However, it is interesting enough with the BB links to keep me interested so I'll carry on. This season has probably been my favourite.
 
There were a few episodes this season where we all felt it was finally picking up the pace and getting going but after that finale I'm just left hugely underwhelmed.

The pacing is all over the fecking place. I mean they literally used 10 minutes of a 56 minute episode showing Chuck tear holes in his walls and then kick a desk until a lamp fell off.

OK Hector had his collapse, that's been built up to for the whole season and could have been done about 3 times already. Gus was there for Hector's collapse for no particular reason but was otherwise not moved on as a character, Mike's suddenly disappeared again this episode after the Madrigal intro last week which now seems pointless.

Where's the pay off? He should be Saul by now ffs, or at the very least use your dramatic cliffhanger to show us a direct inciting incident with Jimmy himself, not waste it on Chuck burning down his house.

Argh. feck off.
 
Yeah, I was left pretty underwhelmed must say for all of the same reasons pointed out by @Rado_N I read an interview recently of the show runner & writers and they say they started out with the intention for the series to be more comedy than drama of Breaking Bad yet they appear to have changed tack

I'd add that Jimmy's story arc seems to have many u-turns starting with his pledge in Season 1 'Never again' in terms of choices yet he routinely goes back to do 'the right thing' including what he gave up in the Finale. Perhaps Chuck's monologue to Jimmy sets the stage more for Jimmy's ultimate transformation into Saul than his impending doom via the house fire might but we'll see.

As for when the show returns, there may be a hiccup due to reorganization at both Sony & AMC
 
Absolutely loved this season :drool: Hopefully we'll get next season around spring 2018 and not later..
 
Its a weird one, in a strange way that could work as the last episode of BCS as most Breaking Bad plot points are in place.

Hector has had his incident and there is a clear tension with Gus, Mike is tied in with Gus at the new facility, Jimmy's name is tarnished beyond repair and he already has Saul Goodman as an alter ego. Chuck has put the idea in his head that he shouldn't feel bad about fecking people around and embrace it instead, Its explained why Kim and Saul don't share a building anymore (and we could just guess from what Chuck said that eventually he will hurt Kim and she will leave anyway without having to see it play out).

Do we need another season where he suddenly has the epiphany of what he should do? It wouldn't be a conventional way to end things but I think it would still work in a quirky Vince Gilligan way.
 
Just finished and really enjoyed it.

Watching what Jimmy did to the old lady though...I was having feelings again, like some kind of 14 year old kid.:(
 
GBBQ said:
Its a weird one, in a strange way that could work as the last episode of BCS as most Breaking Bad plot points are in place.

Hector has had his incident and there is a clear tension with Gus, Mike is tied in with Gus at the new facility, Jimmy's name is tarnished beyond repair and he already has Saul Goodman as an alter ego. Chuck has put the idea in his head that he shouldn't feel bad about fecking people around and embrace it instead, Its explained why Kim and Saul don't share a building anymore (and we could just guess from what Chuck said that eventually he will hurt Kim and she will leave anyway without having to see it play out).

Do we need another season where he suddenly has the epiphany of what he should do? It wouldn't be a conventional way to end things but I think it would still work in a quirky Vince Gilligan way.
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And that's the thing, the gap between BB & BCS is narrowing and the writers can't really stretch this out too much longer. I am not a fan of milking something, the idea from the outset was terrific since Saul is a great character as is Hector, Mike et al. (Plus the genius of Chuck's character being invented). However, I prefer the True Detective route of 'get in, get out' of solid writing & performances over aimlessly pushing things out for longevity/money sake

It'd disappoint me if they could get more than 1 more season out of this, 2 max. We'll see as there has been a shakeup with Sony/AMC so they may also be thinking conservatively
 
FCBarca said:
And that's the thing, the gap between BB & BCS is narrowing and the writers can't really stretch this out too much longer. I am not a fan of milking something, the idea from the outset was terrific since Saul is a great character as is Hector, Mike et al. (Plus the genius of Chuck's character being invented). However, I prefer the True Detective route of 'get in, get out' of solid writing & performances over aimlessly pushing things out for longevity/money sake

It'd disappoint me if they could get more than 1 more season out of this, 2 max. We'll see as there has been a shakeup with Sony/AMC so they may also be thinking conservatively
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Yeah and the scope to bring in fresh new characters is really narrow now.
 
How much time has passed in the 3 seasons to date?

If I remember right the show started as being set 6 years before Breaking Bad, so there should be plenty of scope for more to happen.
 
Rado_N said:
How much time has passed in the 3 seasons to date?

If I remember right the show started as being set 6 years before Breaking Bad, so there should be plenty of scope for more to happen.
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i can't think of many events that would put an exact timeline to the show. A lot of the incident s would take considerable time in the real world (the big court cases, transferring to different law firms etc.). But considering how much of Breaking Bad took place in one year its hard to know how much time has passed.
 
SqueakyWeasel said:
Especially at the pace they're moving :lol:
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GBBQ said:
i can't think of many events that would put an exact timeline to the show. A lot of the incident s would take considerable time in the real world (the big court cases, transferring to different law firms etc.). But considering how much of Breaking Bad took place in one year its hard to know how much time has passed.
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The whole show could have covered a month :lol:
 
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