Television Better Call Saul | Includes Breaking Bad Spoilers
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fecking hell
Oh no, someone thinks it's a bit shit, how hilarious.
What next? name calling?pointing at my new trainers? Taking my dinner money?
It's clearly not shit. Not to your taste maybe (Which is odd considering you like The Wire and TWD which also has its slow moments and nothing episodes), but obviously not shit.
I'm just thankful it's in a 16:9 aspect ratio.
S01E04
Probably my least favourite episode so far but it wasn't that bad. Could have done with more Mike.
It was too slow for my taste. They should stir it up a bit.
Think I'm going to give this a break and watch them all at once later. Not enjoying the pace at which it's moving.
Went a bit downhill with the last 2 for me, after first 2 excellent episodes.
didn't realise there was a spinoff.
*starts downloading*
*starts downloading*
For me there is nothing wrong in essence with its lack of direction - or, more accurately, knowing exactly what direction it is going in because we know how things turn out for Saul. This show is more about the journey than the destination: Saul is a funny character and there is plenty of scope for entertainment following his career as it develops. But this is why I always thought this show was going to be lighter and a bit more overtly comic, it seemed the more obvious structure if the show was basically going to be a series of encounters between Saul and the town's criminals as he establishes himself as this corrupt and fast-talking defense lawyer. Having said that it works well the way it is, for me. I still dont think it fundamentally matters that we know where the show is going to end up, there is plenty of scope for drama along the way and Im still enjoying it a lot - though I agree ep 4 was the weakest so far.
They are trying to do too much Saul.
Unlike in BB, where an episode could be half Walt trying to curb his bitch, and the other half Jesse trying to sell Meth to a farm cow, In BCS it is 100% Saul.
An idea would be to follow Mike for 50% and Saul for 50% and have them occasionally meet. I personally am more interested in Mikes back-story than Saul's. Especially given that it was hinted at a few times in BB, but never revealed.
Unlike in BB, where an episode could be half Walt trying to curb his bitch, and the other half Jesse trying to sell Meth to a farm cow, In BCS it is 100% Saul.
An idea would be to follow Mike for 50% and Saul for 50% and have them occasionally meet. I personally am more interested in Mikes back-story than Saul's. Especially given that it was hinted at a few times in BB, but never revealed.
Didn't enjoy this weeks episode at all, terrible.
I still enjoyed it, right now these episodes are just scene setters and building for the more major plot. We finally learnt how he got his name too which was interesting. He has now gone from an out of luck lawyer with no confidence, to owning a expensive fancy suit, taking several thousands of free cash and having the balls to stand up to the big lawyer firm.
The stunt with the advertising board was genius, and will no doubt win him over some fans.
I also really liked the watch hustle, I had no idea that was going to be a setup.
Overall yes I think it has been "slow" but it's a good build up so far IMO.
The stunt with the advertising board was genius, and will no doubt win him over some fans.
I also really liked the watch hustle, I had no idea that was going to be a setup.
Overall yes I think it has been "slow" but it's a good build up so far IMO.
Agreed, I enjoyed both those hustles.
Yup. I'm enjoying it a lot in all honesty. There will be a lot more to come. These kind of episodes are like the 'Cancer Man/'Grey Matter' ones that contributed to the consensus that Breaking Bad's first season was slow.
It wasn't slow, not for me at least, but those episodes were important developmental and character building episodes that contributed hugely to the show's critical success come the end.
Better Call Saul may well be doing the same. If they're going to start off with Jimmy McGill then the writers are best doing that progression properly. Vince Gilligan knows how to entertain his audience and I think, and hope, he'll get it right once again.
This episode was just as slow as an episode of BB could be.
So am I the only one that thought it was the best episode yet?! Not too much BB-esque stuff (which is good IMO) and it gave us a pretty big insight into Saul's character.
S'all good man.
I thought it was a good episode, there was a lot about it I enjoyed immensely, many of which have been mentioned - the post above mine, the watch and billboard hustles mentioned earlier and more. That I enjoyed the other three more says more about the other three than the fourth one.
Thought it was better than the 3rd.
I see what you did there!
Agree!
Its definitely the show I look forward to most in the week at the moment. But it doesnt have much competition.
I like this new episode more so than the last one. In breaking bad I just pictured Saul as this guy who was always this way, you know sleezy willing to break the law etc so its really cool to the origins of his character and how hes developed over time.
In Episode 4 he takes a bribe, infringes on trademarks, decieves his way to becoming a local hero and lies to his brother about it. This is more like the Saul we know from breaking bad rather than Jimmy McGill. I wonder where the show goes from here and how much they're actually going to show us and of course i'm curious as to whether or not we'll see what happens with Saul after breaking bad more than what they've shown in episode 1 I mean.
In Episode 4 he takes a bribe, infringes on trademarks, decieves his way to becoming a local hero and lies to his brother about it. This is more like the Saul we know from breaking bad rather than Jimmy McGill. I wonder where the show goes from here and how much they're actually going to show us and of course i'm curious as to whether or not we'll see what happens with Saul after breaking bad more than what they've shown in episode 1 I mean.
I thought it was good if a little slow this week.
I'm definitely giving it more patience because of BB.
The hussles were both good, but the whole thing with his uncle(?) and the foil blanket is a bit weird and the woman lawyer is a bit rubbish.
I'm definitely giving it more patience because of BB.
The hussles were both good, but the whole thing with his uncle(?) and the foil blanket is a bit weird and the woman lawyer is a bit rubbish.
Still the walking dead for me.
Yeah I'm not watching that, waiting for the series to finish.
I really liked it, and the show. It's not gripping, but it's fun enough, and it's shot so well.
We need some better side characters, but consider that err, Saul himself didn't even join Breaking Bad for a couple of years.
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Wtf is wrong with you people? Its only getting started
There better be a bloody good reason for the brother and the silver blanket, if no and it's just an attempt at humour it's fecking terrible.
I thought it was easy to explain that he suffers from electromagnetic hypersensitivity. You could see him get disoriented when he approaches power lines.
Yea, but why? What's the purpose of it as a plot?
Proof positive that it's all about the writing
Exactly Nick, unless it's got an actual purpose in the plot then it's just annoying and doesn't add anything to the programme IMO.
Do you expect them to explain the purpose within 4 episodes? The whole of Breaking Bad thrived under the idea that the narrator only explained his character's eccentricities when he felt like it. I mean the series ended without giving a fulfilling explanation for why Walter took a low rent teaching job after he basically helped build a billion dollar research firm.
It's Chekhov's gun. Surely, Gilligan is familiar with the concept. It's strange to criticize him after 4 series and call this a meaningless plot.
Relax guys, nobody is criticising just yet!
Phurry just said he hopes there's a good reason for it and I was agreeing.
I'm loving it. Saul is a really likeable character.
The episodes fly by for me, just like Breaking Bad. I'm hooked even when nothing really happens. Makes a huge difference to a lot of shows (cough, Walking Dead, cough) where you couldn't give two shits about the characters, whereas here I'm genuinely interested in everyone. It's just good acting and great writing.
The episodes fly by for me, just like Breaking Bad. I'm hooked even when nothing really happens. Makes a huge difference to a lot of shows (cough, Walking Dead, cough) where you couldn't give two shits about the characters, whereas here I'm genuinely interested in everyone. It's just good acting and great writing.
I've dared to question Gilligan, I must therefore be criticised by tha fanboys
I'm not a fanboy, I'm pretty much indifferent about BB, for example. The thing is, I don't know why is this (silver blanket) even a question so early. It's not like there is an alien neighbor or something like that - it's a real disease.I've dared to question Gilligan, I must therefore be criticised by tha fanboys
And my reaction was mostly on "What's the purpose" comment, not on yours - it's obvious that nobody knows right now, except Gilligan & co, but it's strange to assume that it won't have one.