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Salaries released by Bild, interesting to note the newest squad members are matching some of the vets

Franck Ribéry - 12 million euros - June 2017
Mario Götze - 12 million euros - June 2017

Philippe Lahm - 10 million euros - June 2016
Bastian Schweinsteiger - 10 million euros - June 2016

Thomas Müller - 8 million euros - June 2017
Thiago Alcântara - 8 million euros - June 2017
Manuel Neuer - 8 million euros - June 2016

Arjen Robben - 7 million euros - June 2015
David Alaba - 7 million euros - June 2018

Javi Martínez - 6 million euros - June 2017
Jerome Boateng - 6 million euros - June 2018

Daniel van Buyten - EUR 5 million - June 2014
Mario Mandzukic - EUR 5 million - June 2016
Rafinha - EUR 5 million - June 2017

Toni Kroos - 4.5 million euros - June 2015
Claudio Pizarro - 4.5 million euros - June 2014

Dante - 3.5 million euros - June 2016
Holger Badstuber - 3.5 million euros - June 2017

Xherdan Shaqiri - 2.5 million euros - June 2016

Diego Contento - 2 million euros - June 2016

Tom Starke - 1.5 million euros - June 2015

Pierre-Emile HØJBJERG - 1 million - June 2016

Mitchell Weiser - 0.5 million - June 2015
Julian Green - 0.5 million - June 2017

Lukas Raeder - 0.4 million - June 2014

Alessandro Schopf - 0.2 million - June 2016
Patrick Weihrauch - 0.2 million - June 2014
 
Those numbers look faked to me - in any environment it's not the absolute wage that causes trouble but the differentials.
 
Robben must have huge performance-related bonuses. It makes sense if they only give him a €7m base salary because of how injury-prone he is, but when he is fit he is as good as anyone. I'd imagine that at some set objectives his salary goes up by €2m or so, or else he is being extremely underpaid.

I've read that it comes from Sport-Bild (not the real Bild) which have the journalistic integrity of rocks, so I doubt it's true anyways.
 
I already wrote about it in the Kroos thread, those numbers make no sense at all and Sport-Bild really is the least reliable source, the whole paper is a bad joke. Most somewhat believable reports have Götze on 8m with additional bonus payments, Ribery is on 10.5, exactly the same as Schweinsteiger and Lahm, which is well known for quite a while.

I doubt that Robben has huge performance-related bonuses, but he's signing a new contract soon, so he might get closer to the top 3 earners. Kroos will get 8m like Müller, highly doubt that we give him more and risk our wage structure for him. Maybe we give him some signing bonus to sweeten the deal, but nothing extraordinary. If he wants more, he has to leave.
 
Balu said:
I already wrote about it in the Kroos thread, those numbers make no sense at all and Sport-Bild really is the least reliable source, the whole paper is a bad joke. Most somewhat believable reports have Götze on 8m with additional bonus payments, Ribery is on 10.5, exactly the same as Schweinsteiger and Lahm, which is well known for quite a while.

I doubt that Robben has huge performance-related bonuses, but he's signing a new contract soon, so he might get closer to the top 3 earners. Kroos will get 8m like Müller, highly doubt that we give him more and risk our wage structure for him. Maybe we give him some signing bonus to sweeten the deal, but nothing extraordinary. If he wants more, he has to leave.
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All that makes sense. And it's a negligible chance that Kroos leaves.
 
Balu said:
I doubt that Robben has huge performance-related bonuses, but he's signing a new contract soon, so he might get closer to the top 3 earners. Kroos will get 8m like Müller, highly doubt that we give him more and risk our wage structure for him. Maybe we give him some signing bonus to sweeten the deal, but nothing extraordinary. If he wants more, he has to leave.
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Robben's significant performance-related bonuses were a huge issue in the media between 09-11 when his injury situation was worst. We never know about the contractual details for sure but I see no reason to doubt those reports since they make a lot of sense, too.
 
Bazi said:
Robben's significant performance-related bonuses were a huge issue in the media between 09-11 when his injury situation was worst. We never know about the contractual details for sure but I see no reason to doubt those reports since they make a lot of sense, too.
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Wasn't that about him getting paid his full salary despite being injured for such a long time, which implies the exact opposite of performance or appearence related bonuses? Afaik, the contract guaranteed him his full salary for 6 months even if he wasn't fit to play, which is unusual and was a high risk for the club with Robben's history of countless injuries. I could be wrong though, but that's how I remember the discussions back then.
 
@Balu
You are right. The German social system that is even valid for the football players - tells that the clubs have to pay the full wage for the first 42 days of injury. After that the insurance pays - but only the highest rate of about 3000 EUR. With the rents in Munich for the better appartments or houses that often ain't enough for the rent.
 
Balu said:
Wasn't that about him getting paid his full salary despite being injured for such a long time, which implies the exact opposite of performance or appearence related bonuses? Afaik, the contract guaranteed him his full salary for 6 months even if he wasn't fit to play, which is unusual and was a high risk for the club with Robben's history of countless injuries. I could be wrong though, but that's how I remember the discussions back then.
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Exactly this. That's also why his base salary is quite low for a player of his calibre, compared to the 3 big earners Lahm, Schweini, Ribery.
As far as I know, this contract is absolutely unique in germany.
 
Piratesoup said:
Exactly this. That's also why his base salary is quite low for a player of his calibre, compared to the 3 big earners Lahm, Schweini, Ribery.
As far as I know, this contract is absolutely unique in germany.
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Not unique. But a normal player without his injury history might be able to get a private insurance for that risk whereas who wants to overtake this risk at a player with Robben's injury history?
 
Balu said:
Wasn't that about him getting paid his full salary despite being injured for such a long time, which implies the exact opposite of performance or appearence related bonuses? Afaik, the contract guaranteed him his full salary for 6 months even if he wasn't fit to play, which is unusual and was a high risk for the club with Robben's history of countless injuries. I could be wrong though, but that's how I remember the discussions back then.
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You might be right, I remember that as well. There were indeed reports about him getting paid his full salary throughout the periods of time when he was injured. Still, I seem to recall that performance-related bonuses were also part of the discussion, sadly I can't find the sources right now.

@Piratesoup

I doubt Robben had a low base-salary after extending his contract in 2012. He was quite the drama queen back then and received a significant pay-raise, didn't he?
 
Are the footballer wages in Germany presented pre or post tax?
 
Blackwidow said:
Pre Tax
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Thank you, that's what I expected. Pretty reasonable wage structure for a team of that calibre.

Götze's and Thiago's wages are obviously because of their low prices and the competition, compared to Javi Martinez.
 
We are often talking about commercial income. That is the new FC Bayern Lufthansa advertising



The crew is talking about the offside rule...
The slogan: Bayern "can" football, Lufthansa "can" fly, proud partners of FC Bayern
 
Pexbo said:
Personal taxes and unrelated to the club I assume?
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Yes. It's about private bank accounts in Switzerland, that he used for heavy gambling at the stock exchange. So far, there's nothing known about any connection to the club. Karl Hopfner was in charge of the club finances in the last two decades, not Hoeness. And if there were any irregularities connected to this case, I'm sure, we would have heard of it by now.
 
AldoPaine18 said:
Munich has lost 5 out of their last 93 games in all competitions. Insane!
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That's all games of this season and the last season, right?
At home against City, Supercup against Dortmund, at home against Arsenal, away at Bate and at home against Leverkusen in the league, that should be it. Add 1 draw against Valencia in the CL, 2 draws this season and 4 draws last season in the league to it, and it means we've won 81 out of 93 games. How's that for a winrate?

Mel_F said:
How about this for a stat? @OptaFranz: Bayern Munich needed so few saves that they wouldn't have needed a goalkeeper for the last 6 Bundesliga games.
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:lol:
That's not surprising though, Neuer is often more a sweeper than a keeper and a huge reason why we have so few shots on target against us.
 
Balu said:
That's all games of this season and the last season, right?
At home against City, Supercup against Dortmund, at home against Arsenal, away at Bate and at home against Leverkusen in the league, that should be it. Add 1 draw against Valencia in the CL, 2 draws this season and 4 draws last season in the league to it, and it means we've won 81 out of 93 games. How's that for a winrate?


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That's not surprising though, Neuer is often more a sweeper than a keeper and a huge reason why we have so few shots on target against us.
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Really incredible. Hopefully you finish the league without losing a game, would be a great memory to have.
 
AldoPaine18 said:
Really incredible. Hopefully you finish the league without losing a game, would be a great memory to have.
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I'd much rather keep our away form in the CL going. I think that's by far what's most impressive about our team. 7 wins in a row now and most of those games against strong teams. That's truely special. We don't go to the top teams in Europe and play it safe, hope for a draw and win the tie at home. We go there to dominate and win.
 
AldoPaine18 said:
Really incredible. Hopefully you finish the league without losing a game, would be a great memory to have.
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Always felt unbeaten records are a little meaningless. A record points total would be more impressive. Both would obviously be nice and probably doable though.
 
We already set a pretty impressive record for points total last season. Would be nice to top it again, but it's not that important to me.

I really really want 100 goals, only done once before and we have a shot at topping those 101 goals, we scored in 71/72. So far, we scored 72 goals in 24 games, that's 3 goals a game on average. If we can finish the season on that average, we would have scored 102 goals :drool:
 
Brophs said:
Was this the original case or an appeal?
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The original case. There will be an appeal but that can only be made about formal mistakes so it probably will not change anything.

Bayern is playing Real Madrid right now and only Martinez is there. Basketball. And all players of Bayer Leverkusen who play in Munich Saturday.
 
Arjen Robben extended his contract today until 2017. Kroos remains the only important player now, whose contract ends in 2015.
 
Mad Winger said:
Come on, don't be greedy! Share the wealth with us poor United supporters :(
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To be honest, at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if Kroos turned out to be a flop at United. He's imo not the player the team needs in midfield unless there's a significant change in style of play.
 
Balu said:
To be honest, at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if Kroos turned out to be a flop at United. He's imo not the player the team needs in midfield unless there's a significant change in style of play.
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Thank you, exactly my thoughts. Imo, Kroos is not someone to singlehandedly change a team, dictate pace or style.
 
strongwalker said:
Thank you, exactly my thoughts. Imo, Kroos is not someone to singlehandedly change a team, dictate pace or style.
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Two things about this. Kroos needs a very defensive minded player behind him to really be able to shine - and some fluidity in the front.

And - he needs to grow up. But that is why he maybe should transfer for his own career. At Bayern he is somehow in a comfort zone.
 
Question needs to be asked - is this side better than peak Barca?
 
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