Bastian Schweinsteiger

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Having both him and RVP would certainly help with the transition from Moyes' "philosophy" to Van Gaal's. He's a leader as well which will be vital, especially if we are going into next season with a young back 5, presuming Shaw signs.

This still feels very unlikely though. 5% chance.
 
We are, however I can understand if he doesn't. Imagine yourself as manager in a new job. Would you sack from day 1 the director's pet and the best mate of many veteran members of your team?
At the end of the day Fletcher is finished at the highest level, there's no use keeping him based on sentiment something we struggled with in the past and is a reason for our decline.
 
I don't care about our opposition but this team can easily be competitive

------------De Gea------------

Rafael-----Jones---Evans----Shaw

-------Strootman---Bastian--------

Sanchez---Mata/Rooney-----Januzaj

-----------RVP/Welbeck------------

I'd add a quality CB if possible.
 
At the end of the day Fletcher is finished at the highest level, there's no use keeping him based on sentiment something we struggled with in the past and is a reason for our decline.

I agree. However one needs to take politics in account and believe me, politics and sentiment has a huge say in football. No wonder why SAF never saw our problem in CM.
 
I don't care about our opposition but this team can easily be competitive

------------De Gea------------

Rafael-----Jones---Evans----Shaw

-------Strootman---Bastian--------

Sanchez---Mata/Rooney-----Januzaj

-----------RVP/Welbeck------------

I'd add a quality CB if possible.
That team could challenge for the title, only City and Chelsea can boast better teams on paper.
 
I agree. However one needs to take politics in account and believe me, politics and sentiment has a huge say in football. No wonder why SAF never saw our problem in CM.
I'm not expecting him to be forced out in fact I can see Fellaini sold before him, but if we do sign two midfielders his game time would be incredibly numbered and might see it better to move on.
 
That team could challenge for the title, only City and Chelsea can boast better teams on paper.

And if one take the media rumours in account it isn't so costly. 27m for Shaw, 25m for Sanchez, 20m for Bastian, 35m for Strootman and probably another 20-30m for a CB. Its big money but not as much if you compare that to what is being asked for the likes of Suarez and Pogba.

One need to also take in account the departures. If sold Hernandez will probably bring in around 20m, Young 12m, Fellaini 15m and Kagawa another 20m.
 
Agree, although I'd expect Sanchez' stock to rise after the world cup.
 
He'll come if Bayern accept the bid, no doubt about that. Could see Pep being fine with him leaving. The board will be the big sticking point but I was under the impression that Pep was calling the shots at this stage. This deal would certainly tell us a lot about the balance of power at Bayern.

Wonder what our resident Bayern fans think?
I've not the slightest idea why someone could think that Pep would be fine with Schweini leaving. For more than a year now half of our players are rumoured to leave because Guardiola doesn't want to work with them. I've heard the same about Robben, Müller, Martinez and a few more and it was always nonsense (Mandzukic now is the one exception and I expect Shaqiri to leave as well, because he simply won't get enough playing time). I'd agree that Schweinsteiger didn't find his perfect place in the team last season, but he still always started when he was fit and was a key player. He's such a wonderful allrounder and if he gets over his injury problems and can take part in the pre-season, I'm sure that problem will be gone soon enough. I can't see him leaving at this point and there's definitely no way that Pep or the board wants him to leave.

Keeping Schweinsteiger certainly won't tell you anything about the balance of power at the club. He's an incredible positive influence in the dressing room and his versatility makes him a truely important player even if he can't get back to his treble winning form.
 
I don't care about our opposition but this team can easily be competitive

------------De Gea------------

Rafael-----Jones---Evans----Shaw

-------Strootman---Bastian--------

Sanchez---Mata/Rooney-----Januzaj

-----------RVP/Welbeck------------

I'd add a quality CB if possible.

Evans should be no-where near our starting 11. Total liability no matter who plays in front of him. For me central defence is more important that central midfield, not just because of the lacking quality but also the fact that they're all injury prone.
 
And if one take the media rumours in account it isn't so costly. 27m for Shaw, 25m for Sanchez, 20m for Bastian, 35m for Strootman and probably another 20-30m for a CB. Its big money but not as much if you compare that to what is being asked for the likes of Suarez and Pogba.

One need to also take in account the departures. If sold Hernandez will probably bring in around 20m, Young 12m, Fellaini 15m and Kagawa another 20m.
I can't see us getting that much for those players, we are horrible when it comes to selling I think it's more likely to be this 12-15M hernandez, Young 5M, Fellaini 10-12M, Kagawa 15M.
 
People saying no I'm not sure if they realise they're on a Bastian Schweinsteiger thread. The guy is one of the best midfielders in the world. Exactly the kind of player we're in dying need.


He still managed to make more than 30 apps last season. So much for being injury prone.
There are always people who want something to moan.
 
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Evans should be no-where near our starting 11. Total liability no matter who plays in front of him. For me central defence is more important that central midfield, not just because of the lacking quality but also the fact that they're all injury prone.
Throughout 2012 and 2013 he was arguably one of our best CBs. Why does that suddenly change? He has been injured for most of this season and the whole team under performed. In my opinion he'll start strong next season and be the first choice CB for us.
 
Schweinsteiger has been awfully quiet, not sure whether that's a good thing or bad though.
 
Throughout 2012 and 2013 he was arguably one of our best CBs. Why does that suddenly change? He has been injured for most of this season and the whole team under performed. In my opinion he'll start strong next season and be the first choice CB for us.
This. Sure Evans is not world class, but his a more than solid player add an experienced dominant CB to compliment his style next to him and we'd have a good pairing.

Needs a pre season uninterrupted by injuries and I think he'll have a good season.
 
I don't care about our opposition but this team can easily be competitive

------------De Gea------------

Rafael-----Jones---Evans----Shaw

-------Strootman---Bastian--------

Sanchez---Mata/Rooney-----Januzaj

-----------RVP/Welbeck------------

I'd add a quality CB if possible.

add hummels at the back and we have an almost perfect summer i say.
 
I don't care about our opposition but this team can easily be competitive

------------De Gea------------

Rafael-----Jones---Evans----Shaw

-------Strootman---Bastian--------

Sanchez---Mata/Rooney-----Januzaj

-----------RVP/Welbeck------------

I'd add a quality CB if possible.

Agree that the team could be competitive, especially if you threw Hummels at the back.

There an few signs that we will actually pull off Sanchez/Bastian just yet, and it is that which is concerning.
 
@Damien Could you please post the article mate?

He already did a few pages back. But here it is:

Manchester United are pressing ahead with plans to sign Bastian Schweinsteiger after identifying the Bayern Munich and Germany player as a leading midfield target this summer.

Louis van Gaal is also keen to bring Kevin Strootman to Old Trafford, but with the Holland midfielder not expected to return to action until the autumn after a serious knee injury, any prospective transfer would be unlikely to be formally completed until next year should Roma, his club, want to sell.

Although Van Gaal has made purchasing a world-class central defender his priority after the departures of Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic — Mats Hummels, of Borussia Dortmund, is a target — the incoming manager is also determined to address United’s weaknesses in midfield. David Moyes, who was sacked as United manager in April, had been keen to sign Toni Kroos — in addition to one of Cesc Fàbregas, Paul Pogba or Arturo Vidal — but Van Gaal has asked the United hierarchy to focus on Schweinsteiger, Kroos’s Bayern and Germany team-mate whom he managed during his two-year spell in charge of the Bavarian giants.

Schweinsteiger enters the final two years of his contract at Bayern this summer and Pep Guardiola, the coach of the German champions, is believed to be prepared to part company with the 29-year-old for the right price. A key lieutenant under Jupp Heynckes, Schweinsteiger — who would cost about £25 million — is not thought to enjoy the same relationship with Guardiola and is willing to consider leaving the club he first joined as a 13-year-old.

United had hoped to do a chunk of their transfer business before the World Cup, but Moyes’s sacking threw a spanner in the works, especially with Van Gaal telling the club to end their pursuit of certain targets identified by his predecessor.

A deal with Southampton for Luke Shaw, the England left back, has been agreed in principle and is likely to be announced after the World Cup, with United eager to tie up other potential signings.

Van Gaal is also a keen admirer of Strootman. The midfielder would have played a central role under Van Gaal in the World Cup but the player suffered a cruciate ligament injury to his left knee in March during a game against Napoli and was forced to undergo surgery.

Strootman is expected to return to action in September and United will probably wait to see how he recovers from the injury before attempting to tie up a deal, but it seems likely that the club will look to put in some groundwork this summer. Van Gaal had also been interested in Thomas Müller but the Germany forward has just signed a new five-year contract with Bayern.

With Ryan Giggs — who will serve as Van Gaal’s No 2 — having announced his retirement from playing, Anderson expected to leave this summer and doubts over the futures of Marouane Fellaini, Darren Fletcher and Tom Cleverley, strengthening the midfield is vital.
 
Guys, we were in for Tony Kroos and it collapsed

The same for Koke and he signed a new contract

We were in for Fabregas and he left for Chelsea. The same for Modric and co

Every time we're in for a great midfielder we miss him.

I doubt Schweinie will come to OT this summer. At 29, he'll probably see his future in his country, playing for Bayern 3-4 more years and then he'll see.

Whenever a Bayern player is "avalaible" (while I doubt he's), Munich complicate everything in transfer market.
 
add hummels at the back and we have an almost perfect summer i say.

I don't know whether Hummels and Bastian are realistic targets. However for the rest I guess they are. In my opinion that would be a great team which can seriously compete for the EPL.
 
He's missed 29 league games in the last 3 season, surely that's something of a worry? RVP was signed on the back of a season where he was fully fit, it's the opposite with Schweinstiger.
 
He's missed 29 league games in the last 3 season, surely that's something of a worry? RVP was signed on the back of a season where he was fully fit, it's the opposite with Schweinstiger.

Last season he came back in december after his ankle surgery. that's 14-15 games
And he has this injury since 2012, so no not really injury prone.
 
Guys, we were in for Tony Kroos and it collapsed

The same for Koke and he signed a new contract

We were in for Fabregas and he left for Chelsea. The same for Modric and co

Every time we're in for a great midfielder we miss him.

I doubt Schweinie will come to OT this summer. At 29, he'll probably see his future in his country, playing for Bayern 3-4 more years and then he'll see.

Whenever a Bayern player is "avalaible" (while I doubt he's), Munich complicate everything in transfer market.

You've just created a lovely piece of fiction. Stop talking shite.
 
I don't care about our opposition but this team can easily be competitive

------------De Gea------------

Rafael-----Jones---Evans----Shaw

-------Strootman---Bastian--------

Sanchez---Mata/Rooney-----Januzaj

-----------RVP/Welbeck------------

I'd add a quality CB if possible.
That defence is pretty shite though.
 
Most of what he said there is fact actually.

On what earth is Toni Kroos collapsing, or being in for "Modric and co." - whoever on earth that even is - "fact?" Do you have a problem with the word and its definition?
 
I can't see us getting that much for those players, we are horrible when it comes to selling I think it's more likely to be this 12-15M hernandez, Young 5M, Fellaini 10-12M, Kagawa 15M.

Those are very accurate figures that our players will go for IMO.
 
Surely the club calls Bayern, they ask ''any possibility of Bastian leaving?'' Bayern say "yes or no''

If yes then we ask for a valuation. They say X we say Z and both end up settling for Y.

Then the club has permission to talk to his agent and advisers. He says either "no I have no interest in joining United" or "yes I'm very interested my agent will discuss terms".

Obviously football transfers are not as simple as this but surely it should not take two months to find out if the player wants to join or not i.e Fabregas last year.
I know tapping up is illegal but the feelers would be out to him before speaking with Bayern imo.

I'm fed up of all the sh1te in papers saying We will go all out for him, He is number one target, Van Gaal eyes Schweinsteiger etc.

If true I hope the club is mid negotiation or they had a simple no chance and are off trying with our next target. Our dithering is what cost us last year. I'm praying Ed has his mobile glued to his ear and is getting it done!
 
Easier said than done with our players.

That's Van Gaal is here, if Van Buyten Dante or Boateng can form a "good" defence then don't worry Jones smalling and Evans can, it all depends on how we play as a team.

For Chaky best post:

Kroos: we are probably interested but what can we do if his club doesn't want to sell him to us.
Modric: Levy refuse to sell his player to us despite the fact that we were the highest bidder.
Fabregas: his all family is in London and his Girlfriend wants to live in London
Koke: Pure invention, of course all the clubs in the world are interested and they are all failing, United wasn't the most interested club.
Schweinsteiger: Time will tell.
 
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