Bastian Schweinsteiger

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ravi2 said:
We really have no one but ourselves to blame for the predicament we are in today.
Madrid, Barca and Bayern bought players from a position of power, we completely dropped the ball.
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Agree 100%

It has proved awful from a financial point a view also, which is all that really matter for the owners and the board.

We crashed out of the all important CL spots. We're now buying from a position of absolute desperation - never have we been more unattractive to players in twenty years, and clubs know they can raise prices if we bid. Real/Barca/Bayern/Chelski get players for absolute bargain prices as they don't really ever ''need'' their targets.

Player fees and wages have continued to increase greatly each summer. Some of the players we tried to get but cheaped out on are worth double or more now also. Look at Hazard, for example.

We have no star players that spark the imagination of kids and win us new fans across the world.

There is no aura or magic to this team at all and hasn't been for years. Your a kid in Hong Kong/NYC/wherever and you can watch Real Madrid or this dross, who do you follow?

Godfather said:
Bit depressing that we are seemingly briefing the press that we are preparing to bid for a player. Reminds me way too much of the Fabregas saga last season. "Hey look, we are trying hard to get World Class players in, it is not our fault they will not join us."
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Indeed. Let's hope their info is a bit more solid this time?
 
KingMinger22 said:
Agree 100%

It has proved awful from a financial point a view also, which is all that really matter for the owners and the board.

We crashed out of the all important CL spots. We're now buying from a position of absolute desperation - never have we been more unattractive to players in twenty years, and clubs know they can raise prices if we bid. Real/Barca/Bayern/Chelski get players for absolute bargain prices as they don't really ever ''need'' their targets.

Player fees and wages have continued to increase greatly each summer. Some of the players we tried to get but cheaped out on are worth double or more now also. Look at Hazard, for example.

We have no star players that spark the imagination of kids and win us new fans across the world.

There is no aura or magic to this team at all and hasn't been for years. Your a kid in Hong Kong/NYC/wherever and you can watch Real Madrid or this dross, who do you follow?



Indeed. Let's hope their info is a bit more solid this time?
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Seriously? Are you for real?
 
It always amazes me how many 'fans' we have that love trying to downplay this club. It's ridiculous.

Anyway, Schweinsteiger probably wont happen but I would love it if we did. 25 million is a bargain for a player of his calibre especially with the way the market is going.
 
I don't understand how you can be that negative about the club you support, it must make football so boring.
 
Trying to just write this one off as no chance, but will be very pleased if it comes off to say the least!
 
KingMinger22 said:
Agree 100%

It has proved awful from a financial point a view also, which is all that really matter for the owners and the board.

We crashed out of the all important CL spots. We're now buying from a position of absolute desperation - never have we been more unattractive to players in twenty years, and clubs know they can raise prices if we bid. Real/Barca/Bayern/Chelski get players for absolute bargain prices as they don't really ever ''need'' their targets.

Player fees and wages have continued to increase greatly each summer. Some of the players we tried to get but cheaped out on are worth double or more now also. Look at Hazard, for example.

We have no star players that spark the imagination of kids and win us new fans across the world.

There is no aura or magic to this team at all and hasn't been for years. Your a kid in Hong Kong/NYC/wherever and you can watch Real Madrid or this dross, who do you follow?



Indeed. Let's hope their info is a bit more solid this time?
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You're being overly critical, but not entirely wrong. The last good central midfielder we purchased was Hargreaves 7 years ago, and we haven't even replaced Keane let alone Scholes (or Giggs).
 
Glanville95 said:
It would still be too great a risk to head into the season with one midfield acquisition given the form, age and quality of our other midfield options in Carrick, Fletcher, Fellaini and Cleverley.

Personally, I think we should be ruthless in midfield and ideally two of those four should leave. Carrick should be more or less a certainty to stay as he is easily the best out of the four and is far better than the performances he produced last season. It would also benefit him greatly if we weren't so reliant on him, so that could still end up being an issue if we sign just 30 year-old Schweinsteiger who has suffered an inordinate amount of injuries last season.
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Right now I would happily take just one top midfield signing, as we know they are extremely hard to sign, especially for Manchester United!

Yes it is a bit of a risk but if we just lost just Anderson, and one of Fletcher, or Fellaini, we will still have four out and out midfielders with alot less games than we are used to, plus we have LvG who is capable of getting players to switch positions, and promote the youth, added to that I think next season could be a relatively good season for injuries given we will have limited mid week games.

So like I say right now I'd take just one top midfielder, prefer Vidal, but Schweinsteiger would do very nicely.
 
Schweinsteiger and Hummels as our two major signings would not a bad summer make.

Especially if it's followed up by Strootman in January.
 
CurryCantona said:
* You're

You're being overly critical, but not entirely wrong. The last good central midfielder we purchased was Hargreaves 7 years ago, and we haven't even replaced Keane let alone Scholes (or Giggs).
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I think Carrick disagrees with you on Keane not being replaced. He's not a like for like replacement as such, but a replacement he was.
 
DocRockter said:
This plus SHAW would be ideal and would put us back on top..
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Add Sanchez or a similarly gifted attacker and I would be over the moon. If the press briefings are anything to go by, this is what we should expect but we all know it doesn't work out for us like that usually.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
WTF is soccerlens?
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They are a decent source of news from foreign language newspapers and they are also useful for stuff that they report second hand from sources like the Torygraph who stupidly live behind a paywall which we therefore refuse to promote here or on the Caf Facebook/Twitter.
 
I do thin Schweinsteiger is a world class player, but do we really need to pay €32M for a player that is 30 years old ? I doubt he is another Giggs, at best we have 2-3 seasons of him on top level? For that money, I think we should either add more and try to get Kroos, or just get Strootman, who maybe is not as good as Schweini, but has at least hafl a decade, and probably more of top football ahead of him?
 
CurryCantona said:
You can't plan for the future if you have no plan for the present.

We have the worst bunch of central midfielders the top 8 of the premier league. Not a debate, it's fact. None of our central midfielders are good enough to play for RM/FCBx2/PSG etc, so why are stuck with them? We're not a charity club.

There's no £200m war chest. I'll be surprised if we spend half of that.
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in bold - well said. Seems to be the same line of reasoning which got moyes in trouble. Our form last season didn look like improving yet he always talked of the future as if he was going to get it right. he may have but the performances at that moment were not cutting it.
 
Schweinsteiger is not coming here and neither would he be a good deal for us. Injury prone and at the wrong end of 20. I know the same was said about van Persie and he had a great first season with hardly any injuries but let's be honest his second season was exactly how we feared his career would go for us.

Bring in young talented players that have a good injury record and form a future world class team with them. Van Gaal is great at improving young players and integrating them into the first team.
 
You guys are crazy if you think a player is old at 30. Our own players have lasted till 35. Not to mention that the three years that he will actually give will be top quality.

As far as injuries go, I'd like to think that the judgement of a club looking to pay the 25 million is more trustworthy than some of you'll.

Probably the best signing we can have for our midfield apart from Vidal this summer.
 
Interval said:
You guys are crazy if you think a player is old at 30. Our own players have lasted till 35. Not to mention that the three years that he will actually give will be top quality.

As far as injuries go, I'd like to think that the judgement of a club looking to pay the 25 million is more trustworthy than some of you'll.

Probably the best signing we can have for our midfield apart from Vidal this summer.
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I agree 100 % he is 29 and has played over 130 games for club and country in last 3 years.
People on this forum sing Carricks praises and he is turning 33. We had Giggs playing CM last season at 40. Fletcher back from serious illness is 30.

Unfortunately our youngest CM is crap so I would even take Pirlo and Xavi in a heart beat despite both being in mid 30s because they are brilliant players and we desperately need brilliant midfield players.
Lets get back to actually looking like a trophy winning team and a powerhouse in Europe before we can then be choosy about signing talented youngsters. We hardly took advantage of having Pogba did we!?

I don't think Bastian will sign for us (hope I'm wrong) because I think he is too good to be not playing CL and if up for sale I'm sure other teams offering CL will be also be interested.
 
anyone who thinks bringing in Bastian is a bad idea is MENTAL end of.
Have you all go that short of a memory after 4 games of a world cup to remember what happened last season.
We could play 4 - 1 - 2 next season with bastian as the only one in midfield and is would be an improvement.
Plus he would immediately improve us leaving VanGaal a bit of breathing room to bring in younger players over the next 2 seasons for the future.
 
KingMinger22 said:
Agree 100%

It has proved awful from a financial point a view also, which is all that really matter for the owners and the board.

We crashed out of the all important CL spots. We're now buying from a position of absolute desperation - never have we been more unattractive to players in twenty years, and clubs know they can raise prices if we bid. Real/Barca/Bayern/Chelski get players for absolute bargain prices as they don't really ever ''need'' their targets.

Player fees and wages have continued to increase greatly each summer. Some of the players we tried to get but cheaped out on are worth double or more now also. Look at Hazard, for example.

We have no star players that spark the imagination of kids and win us new fans across the world.

There is no aura or magic to this team at all and hasn't been for years. Your a kid in Hong Kong/NYC/wherever and you can watch Real Madrid or this dross, who do you follow?



Indeed. Let's hope their info is a bit more solid this time?
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That's not strictly true, we have two fantastic strikers, two brilliant attacking midfielders and a top, top goal keeper.

The fact that Moyes set us to play such dreadful football last season doesn't change those facts.

Only last night you saw one of our strikers tear the world champions a new arsehole in front of hundreds of millions of people worldwide.

We don't need established hundred million pound players in every position, we just need competent players with legs.
There are a handful of truly outstanding footballers playing currently, we don't need those.

What we need is some of the players from the good, good to average pool, of which there are hundreds, if not thousands to choose from, because what we are looking to do is to replace players that are not good, good to average, but completely fecking woeful.
 
I would be happy to bring in proven midfield playes that only have a lifespan of 2 or 3 years, the time to invest in tomorrows superstars is best from a position of strengh.
 
Well if he comes united will have finally signed a proper central midfield player.
 
Giggs lasting until 40, and Scholes until 36 is an exception, not a rule. One of the reasons they lasted that much was their natural fitness, but they also took great care, training regime, food, desire to play.. just because Giggs, or Javier Zanetti can do it, doesn't mean that every top player could do it.

Also we are not talking about just getting a player, we are buying him. Is it worth the risk to pay 30 years old, albeit world class player, when for that money you could get Strootman, who is almost as good. Or you could add money, and try to get Vidal / Pogba or maybe even Kroos. I still think Kroos is a better option of the two.

That said, depending on the money United has available for Van Gaal for this summer, I am not saying that we should NOT get him, I just think we should try to get other players first..

Also I don't actually think that Bayern would sell him in the first place, so this is just more of a "what if"...

P.S. Also have in mind that the fact that club sign's him doesn't mean he is actually fit enough to play for the next 4+ years, remember Hargreaves ? He had an injury in Bayern, returned to fitness, played one great season for United and then he's career was over...
 
I don't know why so many of you bother to respond to likes of KingMinger. The ignore button is provided exactly for posters like him.
 
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