Bastian Schweinsteiger

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That's Van Gaal is here, if Van Buyten Dante or Boateng can form a "good" defence then don't worry Jones smalling and Evans can, it all depends on how we play as a team.

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Kroos: we are probably interested but what can we do if his club doesn't want to sell him to us.
Modric: Levy refuse to sell his player to us despite the fact that we were the highest bidder.
Fabregas: his all family is in London and his Girlfriend wants to live in London
Koke: Pure invention, of course all the clubs in the world are interested and they are all failing, United wasn't the most interested club.
Schweinsteiger: Time will tell.


We were the highest bidder for Modric?
I never heard about that. I think levy was holding out for 40m and Madrid bid 37.5 and modric wanted Madrid as well.
Regarding cesc, I believe LVG didn't want him...for whatever reason.
 
We were the highest bidder for Modric?
I never heard about that. I think levy was holding out for 40m and Madrid bid 37.5 and modric wanted Madrid as well.
Regarding cesc, I believe LVG didn't want him...for whatever reason.

I heard that we offered the 40m but he wanted more if it was from a domestic "rival".
 
We should have went all out for Modric before Madrid even took interest. Surely we knew that Scholes was coming to an end, yet we did nothing until it was too late.
 
We should have went all out for Modric before Madrid even took interest. Surely we knew that Scholes was coming to an end, yet we did nothing until it was too late.

We did like Chelsea and Man city but Levy was very reluctant to sell his player to an english club.
 
We did like Chelsea and Man city but Levy was very reluctant to sell his player to an english club.

At the right price, he would have budged, and Modric was a highly rare breed. One of the few midfielders around that could have replaced Scholes. I couldn't have cared less if we offered 50-60m for him, he would have been worth it. As usual though, we mess around and try to do things the hard way.
 
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That defence is pretty shite though.

I did say that we need a new CB.

However its not as shite as one may think. I am pretty confident that if we sort the midfield problem then the defense will get much better. A quality CM would be releasing pressure from the defense and making pressure on our opponent's CM and defense.
 
We should have went all out for Modric before Madrid even took interest. Surely we knew that Scholes was coming to an end, yet we did nothing until it was too late.

We did like Chelsea and Man city but Levy was very reluctant to sell his player to an english club.

I believe Levy wanted 40m for Modric... SAF didnt want to pay that much and after the Berbatov transfer neither SAF nor Levy were too thrilled to deal with each other.
Madrid offered 37.5M and Levy accepted...and who is laughing today?

SAF stated more than once than Modric was the closest thing to Scholes and yet he didnt want to spend the money to acquire him and since then we have been looking for "value in the market".

We really have no one but ourselves to blame for the predicament we are in today.
Madrid, Barca and Bayern bought players from a position of power, we completely dropped the ball.
 
I believe Levy wanted 40m for Modric... SAF didnt want to pay that much and after the Berbatov transfer neither SAF nor Levy were too thrilled to deal with each other.
Madrid offered 37.5M and Levy accepted...and who is laughing today?

SAF stated more than once than Modric was the closest thing to Scholes and yet he didnt want to spend the money to acquire him and since then we have been looking for "value in the market".

We really have no one but ourselves to blame for the predicament we are in today.
Madrid, Barca and Bayern bought players from a position of power, we completely dropped the ball.

It's been discussed before, but in the later years, SAF's record in the transfer market wasn't all that great and we're suffering for it now. He payed roughly 25m for Anderson, which is insane, when you think of what we'd have gotten out of somebody like Modric.
 
I believe Levy wanted 40m for Modric... SAF didnt want to pay that much and after the Berbatov transfer neither SAF nor Levy were too thrilled to deal with each other.
Madrid offered 37.5M and Levy accepted...and who is laughing today?

SAF stated more than once than Modric was the closest thing to Scholes and yet he didnt want to spend the money to acquire him and since then we have been looking for "value in the market".

We really have no one but ourselves to blame for the predicament we are in today.
Madrid, Barca and Bayern bought players from a position of power, we completely dropped the ball.

He wanted 40m from Madrid, and more from english clubs like he wanted 100m euros for Bale but 100m£ from english clubs
 
Hopefully we have someone else in mind. Someone younger that will put to bed our midfield issues for a long time.
If Schweinsteiger comes he can be a mainstay in midfield for 3-4 years but we obviously need more than him. If we are to bring in younger players we need some experience.
 
He wanted 40m from Madrid, and more from english clubs like he wanted 100m euros for Bale but 100m£ from english clubs

I may have to do some digging, but I am sure I recall Levy wanting 40M for Modric and SAF stating that he wasnt worth 40m.
 
I may have to do some digging, but I am sure I recall Levy wanting 40M for Modric and SAF stating that he wasnt worth 40m.

SAF negociating, he won't say "yeah totally worth it", because you know Levy, if you're willing to pay the price he increases it.
 
SAF negociating, he won't say "yeah totally worth it", because you know Levy, if you're willing to pay the price he increases it.

Levy's quoted price for Berbatov did not change.
I believe that transfer went to the last hour of deadline day because we were trying to get the fee down.

I think that if we offered the 40M at that point, Modric would be our player.
 
Levy's quoted price for Berbatov did not change.
I believe that transfer went to the last hour of deadline day because we were trying to get the fee down.

I think that if we offered the 40M at that point, Modric would be our player.

Modric didn't want to play for United.
 
Unfortunately I think we lost the option to go for a young player in that position that can develop at the club (as is more our usual philosophy) when we went 6 years without signing a senior central-midfielder. The last central-midfielder Sir Alex signed had retired before he did, and then Moyes - who to be fair to him did notice we had an issue there - went out and bought Fellaini.

We effectively lost out on a generation of players in that position, leaving us in a state where we can't really afford the time to bring someone in to develop - we surely need someone at the top of their game right now to come and take charge of that area.

Schweinsteiger seems almost ideal for that.
 
Modric didn't want to play for United.

Its not that he didnt want to play for United, its that as soon as Madrid offered the money he was off.
I think if we offered the money and showed we wanted him before Madrid, he would possibly be ours.
We were on his trail for a very long time... madrid just came in and scooped him up.. like the PSG/Lucas transfer.
 
Its not that he didnt want to play for United, its that as soon as Madrid offered the money he was off.
I think if we offered the money and showed we wanted him before Madrid, he would possibly be ours.
We were on his trail for a very long time... madrid just came in and scooped him up.. like the PSG/Lucas transfer.

That summer I seem to remember Modric wanted to play for Chelsea and not United, however Tottenham didn't want to sell him to Chelsea and ended up selling him to Madrid.
 
That summer I seem to remember Modric wanted to play for Chelsea and not United, however Tottenham didn't want to sell him to Chelsea and ended up selling him to Madrid.

I think neither us nor Jose at the time wanted to pay the 40M.
You are correct, Modric's preference was Chelsea but if we paid the money I feel we would have gotten him.
 
I don't care about our opposition but this team can easily be competitive

------------De Gea------------

Rafael-----Jones---Evans----Shaw

-------Strootman---Bastian--------

Sanchez---Mata/Rooney-----Januzaj

-----------RVP/Welbeck------------

I'd add a quality CB if possible.

Honestly don't see room for Rooney in the starting 11.. he's not as good as Mata as a 10 and although he's a world class striker VP is currently better by a distance. Of course he could replace Mata in games where we need extra help in midfield, playing the likes of Fabregas, Matic and Oscar for example. Good line up though, that 11 with LVG can only mean attractive football if only those targets were attainable AND we added a world class CB i.e Hummels, he's a ball playing CB too so having him beside the rock that is Jones would be something else!
 
There is no way that Bayern are going to let both Kroos and Schweinsteiger go in the same summer. If we want Schweini then Kroos has to sign a new contract. If he doesn't then he'll be sold and if we take as gospel the idea that we don't want him or he has rejected us, we have to hope that he does sign a new contract. Otherwise he'll be off to Madrid and we'll be looking for another target.
 
I can believe that we will bid for him but can anyone really see a world class player of his standing wanting to play for a team not in the champions league, in the late peak of his career?
 
There is no way that Bayern are going to let both Kroos and Schweinsteiger go in the same summer. If we want Schweini then Kroos has to sign a new contract. If he doesn't then he'll be sold and if we take as gospel the idea that we don't want him or he has rejected us, we have to hope that he does sign a new contract. Otherwise he'll be off to Madrid and we'll be looking for another target.

I think we've a better chance of signing Kroos and we can offer him what Bayern do not want to, shit loads of money. But either player I'd be over the moon to see in a United shirt.
 
Leg day does not get missed by Bastian.

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Honestly don't see room for Rooney in the starting 11.. he's not as good as Mata as a 10 and although he's a world class striker VP is currently better by a distance. Of course he could replace Mata in games where we need extra help in midfield, playing the likes of Fabregas, Matic and Oscar for example. Good line up though, that 11 with LVG can only mean attractive football if only those targets were attainable AND we added a world class CB i.e Hummels, he's a ball playing CB too so having him beside the rock that is Jones would be something else!
I agree. I don't see room for Rooney. I think it would be better for both parties if he were to leave.
 
I agree. I don't see room for Rooney. I think it would be better for both parties if he were to leave.
Easier said than done, teams weren't exactly lining up for him last summer when he wanted to leave. Other than Arsenal who are unlikely to match his wages no team will be interested.
 
Easier said than done, teams weren't exactly lining up for him last summer when he wanted to leave. Other than Arsenal who are unlikely to match his wages no team will be interested.
Exactly, that's the problem. I think he would be a decent lone striker for Barca with Neymar and Messi off him. Swap with Sanchez?
 
Bit depressing that we are seemingly briefing the press that we are preparing to bid for a player. Reminds me way too much of the Fabregas saga last season. "Hey look, we are trying hard to get World Class players in, it is not our fault they will not join us."
 
Oh good. Rooney bashers have hijacked another thread by repeating same nonsense posted about him elsewhere.
 
I'd be incredibly surprised if Bastian Schweinsteiger ends up at Man Utd. I'd love to be proved wrong but I can't see us signing any Champions League proven players this summer.
 
Bit depressing that we are seemingly briefing the press that we are preparing to bid for a player. Reminds me way too much of the Fabregas saga last season. "Hey look, we are trying hard to get World Class players in, it is not our fault they will not join us."

It's starting to get very tiring. If we sign a big name it'll be a surprise, not an expectation, and that's been my feeling for a few years now - even before last season's disaster. Compare that to other big teams around Europe who expect these big signings every year...
 
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