He's part of the reason our injury record is so shit. I wouldn't be banking on him staying fit enough to justify a place in the squad.
It's the right decision to get rid
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He's part of the reason our injury record is so shit. I wouldn't be banking on him staying fit enough to justify a place in the squad.
It's the right decision to get rid
He was injured for so much of the season. Let's at least see what he can offer when given the chance to get match fit. He basically said he'd be happy to be a squad player. If we're getting rid because of his wages then that makes more sense, but still doesn't sit right with me.
And to think I actually got into an argument with a poster here a couple of weeks back saying that Schweinsteiger is still world class and would be one of, if not the best midfielder in the league this coming season. That he would take Schweinsteiger in his current state over Kante without hesitating.
Clear as day when the club where he is a legendary figure was so quick to sell him that he was past it.
I hope Basti is our last AC Milan-esque signing. We shouldn't be signing players who are past it anymore.Sometimes football managers do things that really, from what we the public see, make no sense whatsoever.
This is one of those things. Jose is not stupid. Therefore, I guess, much like SAF, we have to trust he's doing the best thing for United.
This is one of those things. Jose is not stupid. Therefore, I guess, much like SAF, we have to trust he's doing the best thing for United.
If he is not in Mourinho's plans then there is no point working with the first team anymore. Think he could still be useful but can also understand letting him go as there needs to be departures. Is just a shame he came to us too late in his career.
I was hugely excited to sign him last summer but I can't make a case for keeping him.
Big wages, not in the Manager's plans, injury prone and unfit.
Time waits for no man and it certainly hasn't for Bastian. The brain is still there I have no doubt but a Premier League midfield battle is now too much for his legs in my opinion.
Big wages, not in the Manager's plans, injury prone and unfit.
Time waits for no man and it certainly hasn't for Bastian. The brain is still there I have no doubt but a Premier League midfield battle is now too much for his legs in my opinion.
Somehow, Jose doesn't have class, but be a parasite is fine.
That's true. Over the last 3 seasons, he has had atleast one major injury that has kept him out for more than 2 months.
If he does leave, Good riddance. Couldn't give less of a feck. There's a reliable article somewhere as people mentioned stating that he spent most of his time last season enjoying himself in Germany while sidelined. The same article states that that didn't bode well with the players back home, and rightly so. Furthermore, it seems a bit funny to me he spent most of the season on the sideline for us and then was in top shape all of a sudden for the euros. It's quite clear his priorities lie elsewhere and we don't need that kind of player here, regardless of status. The Shaw interview where he doesn't even mention BFS further confirms this for me.
To me it sounds like Mourinho has had a word with some of the senior players and the topic of BFS and his poor attitude last season must have come up(most likely with Rooney/Carrick)and has decided that due to this and his injury problems on top of that, he is not worth keeping for another season. It's funny how his brother complains about no respect but at the same time all signs point to a lack of respect shown by BFS to the club and the players last season.
If the above is legit, and reading between the lines; it seems to be the case. To me, this decision(if true) to banish him to the makes perfect sense and Mourinho acted in the correct manner. A lack of respect will be responded to with a lack of respect. Don't see what some are moaning about. Anything to bash Mourinho with, I assume.
To me it sounds like Mourinho has had a word with some of the senior players and the topic of BFS and his poor attitude last season must have come up(most likely with Rooney/Carrick)and has decided that due to this and his injury problems on top of that, he is not worth keeping for another season. It's funny how his brother complains about no respect but at the same time all signs point to a lack of respect shown by BFS to the club and the players last season.
If the above is legit, and reading between the lines; it seems to be the case. To me, this decision(if true) to banish him to the makes perfect sense and Mourinho acted in the correct manner. A lack of respect will be responded to with a lack of respect. Don't see what some are moaning about. Anything to bash Mourinho with, I assume.
Was always a big risk, relying on his contributions, given his injury record. Many here were skeptical towards signing him for that reason.
In hindsight they were right. No biggie from a financial perspective, though, I'd wager that even with his salary, it's peanuts in the scheme of things. The biggest "cost" was not buying someone else who could feature and contribute more to the team in the season past. But, thankfully, that season is over and done with.
In hindsight they were right. No biggie from a financial perspective, though, I'd wager that even with his salary, it's peanuts in the scheme of things. The biggest "cost" was not buying someone else who could feature and contribute more to the team in the season past. But, thankfully, that season is over and done with.
Not sure why Schweini has been given such a harsh treatment! It's really baffling unless there are some serious issues that we don't know. Yes, he probably had enjoyed preferential treatment from LVG (who also publicly criticized him too) but that doesn't warrant a humiliation of any sort.
Schweini didn't play a lot, he wasn't a huge success either but surely he wasn't the worst! Everyone deserves a clean slate. There were games where he showed his class and was clearly far better than our other midfield options other than may be Carrick, who also had a few stinkers.
There is no need to treat him like dirt. He can still be a very valuable for for us on and off the pitch. His vast experience, leadership and winning mentality are what we lack in the dressing room.
Schweini didn't play a lot, he wasn't a huge success either but surely he wasn't the worst! Everyone deserves a clean slate. There were games where he showed his class and was clearly far better than our other midfield options other than may be Carrick, who also had a few stinkers.
There is no need to treat him like dirt. He can still be a very valuable for for us on and off the pitch. His vast experience, leadership and winning mentality are what we lack in the dressing room.
No surprise here if the stories are true. He looked like a third of the player he could be and injuries made him only worse.
Given that we have no idea what's going on behind the scenes, I'll trust the manager's judgment.
People have no idea how the meeting went, maybe Jose told him he wasn't in his plans and he was obstinate about not moving on, so Jose had to make it clear to him by removing him from first team training. The problem is 95% of players lack the humility to know when the clock has ticked on them, and they expect to be given constant leeway on huge money to play half seasons as their body deteriorates.
Seems like a move to win over the dressing room. A shame.
I was expecting all the players to be given a fair chance with the new manager. Doesn't seem to be the case with Bastian.
I wish we had given him one more season to prove. I still hope all this is press nonsense and he gets a shot at making the squad. But I fear this is the end for him at the club.
He was one of my favorite non united player and I was thrilled when we signed him. For the first time in many years I went and bought a United shirt with his name.
Oh well, I wish Basti the very best. I hope he does well and gets over his injuries. Farewell.
He was one of my favorite non united player and I was thrilled when we signed him. For the first time in many years I went and bought a United shirt with his name.
Oh well, I wish Basti the very best. I hope he does well and gets over his injuries. Farewell.
Bayern don't sell for economic reasons, they sell when a player is of no further use to them.
It was a good concept, and worth the gamble at the time but for a manager who is determined to build something serious I don't mind if Schweinsteiger is one of those who moves on. He's half the player he was in 2014 already, and seems to play like someone 5 years older than he is.
Unbelieveable player not so long ago, but he's kind of here for the ride. If Jose doesn't want Bastian and sees no place for him, move on. We don't know the genuine side of the whole treatment thing but if it is as severe as - oi you, peasant go make home with the U23s and stay away, that part is shit.
It was a good concept, and worth the gamble at the time but for a manager who is determined to build something serious I don't mind if Schweinsteiger is one of those who moves on. He's half the player he was in 2014 already, and seems to play like someone 5 years older than he is.
Unbelieveable player not so long ago, but he's kind of here for the ride. If Jose doesn't want Bastian and sees no place for him, move on. We don't know the genuine side of the whole treatment thing but if it is as severe as - oi you, peasant go make home with the U23s and stay away, that part is shit.
You see, I'm hoping Mourinho hasn't based his decision on what these 'senior' players have reported - this is what I'm afraid might have happened. Any decisions that he makes, should not come from hearsay - he should investigate this properly, and at least give him a chance like he's giving to all the other players. If he still wants him out, then of course do it. But the decision shouldn't be based on hearsay, if that's what's happened.
Ask Eva Carneiro or Iker Casillas.
Stupid transfer from the start. Well past his best. Seems like a good guy and I hope he can still have some decent seasons somewhere.
Spot on this. Even more so when you think about who the senior players are and how they have their snide claws into the club , probably leas so now Giggs has gone.
Mourinho doesnt want him clearly because he cant count on him. What use is an old, past it injury prone player when our midfield is stacked with average players like him anyway? Carrick, herrera, fellaini and schneiderlin will all be more fit then schweiny, and have more of an impact because of it. Plus Pogba coming in, and other youngsters pushing for a chance. Having Schweinsteiger is just pointless so its best to be clear and decisive.
This would deserve a new thread. I hate this mega threads. Glad to catch this, interesting discussions here.
He was right about Casillas. And just look up Del Bosque's recent comments about him.
Casillas deserved every bit of it and was an entitled brat using his media connections to drum up support.
I'm in 2 minds over this situation.
I kind of want to see what he could do under Mourinho and in a fully functioning midfield for us this season, but the down part is we will rarely see that because he was always injured.
Deserves to be treat better than this either way though IMO. I'm a big Jose fan but this is very tasteless if true.
I kind of want to see what he could do under Mourinho and in a fully functioning midfield for us this season, but the down part is we will rarely see that because he was always injured.
Deserves to be treat better than this either way though IMO. I'm a big Jose fan but this is very tasteless if true.
I'd prefer Bastian over Fellaini, personally.
Why though? What does Schweinsteiger provide that schneiderlin, Carrick or herrera can't? Fellaini provides muscle and height in their and a target man type who can provide a goal threat. I dont like him but hes clearly got his uses. Schweinsteiger is old and injury prone and thats why hes the easiest choice to get rid.
I saw this "rumour" on some dodgy site....goal or something, and laughed. How ridiculous I thought...but is this true?? I'm actually shocked, yeah he wasn't great last season but this is just cruel
This. Absolutely
I think Fellaini offered more to the team last season and is fit for more matches
Senior players (whomever they are) who couldn't stay away from leaking to the press last season. Jose better be mindful that he doesn't repeat LVG's massive mistake by trusting the wrong players.
It's not the same, is it?
Casillas was rightly ostracized because he's leaking team news through his GF, it's a well know fact. You can't compare these two scenarios. Schweini doesn't have this much power (if he's any at all) at United that Jose should be worried about. If that's the case then Rooney should be the first casualty, not Schweini!
Not totally aware of what's going behind the scenes between Jose and Eva, so can't comment on that. But it's a strained relationship long before that Hazard incident according to the local media.
Despite it being clear that Bastian has no future at United, it seems a bit harsh that he's being forced to train with the U23s. I am sure there are a fair few players in and around the first team squad who Mou would be open to selling. Why treat Bastian so much differently?
Because he would happily stick around/'spend time being treated in Germany', not play, and take his wages?
I feel bad for the under 21's, having this turd about them won't be good
Probably the most obvious transfer fail I can recall. Laughable that some thought Bayern would let him go on the cheap unless he wasn't finished
Probably the most obvious transfer fail I can recall. Laughable that some thought Bayern would let him go on the cheap unless he wasn't finished
Did BFS say he's happy to stay at United after being told he doesn't feature in Mourinho's plans for next season? Sounds like reason enough to have him train with U21's. I like BFS and I hope he has another season, but ultimately it's the manager's call.
I had wished for 2-3 nice 'autumn years' for Schweinsteiger at United. It's saddening to see the career of a Bayern icon plummet the way it does right now, or seems to.
If he gets shown the door this summer, I don't think there's another big club with an appropriate tradition willing to take him in. I still hope he gets a reasonably good (last?) season in Manchester.
If he gets shown the door this summer, I don't think there's another big club with an appropriate tradition willing to take him in. I still hope he gets a reasonably good (last?) season in Manchester.
Makes no sense to make him train with U21s. He's a good influence on the team and can add a lot with his presence.
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