Bastian Schweinsteiger | Exit Speculation

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Djemba-Djemba said:
Of course it matters about his weight. What a mad thing to say.

On the rare occasions he managed to get out on the pitch last season he looked blatantly unfit and was a letdown.
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I can't remember him being unfit. Against Liverpool at home, he looked the fittest player on the pitch.

Scholes was never overweight but even if he was, it would not have effected his performances because he never had to do a lot of running (when he was 30+) and was very successful at this age just like Schweinsteiger would be
 
I dont see the sense in getting rid after one season. Id perfer to have him getting minutes in midfield ahead of fellaini and rooney. And if it doesnt work out fitness wise we could get shot of him in January or next summer. Good experienced professionals are great to have around for the youngers. Him zlatan and carrick can only benefit us
 
itso 7 said:
The thing is players are like kids, when things go wrong you only hear their side of the story, how they have been treated badly etc. We don't know how Mourinho came to this decision because he's been on a charm offensive with every other player bar him. We don't have the full picture but I think Mourinho will talk about it in his next presser because journos will surely ask him about BFS.
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It would be nice to get some clarification about this. But I wouldn't be surprised if the club forbids any questions about this.
 
Scholesy said:
I can't remember him being unfit. Against Liverpool at home, he looked the fittest player on the pitch.

Scholes was never overweight but even if he was, it would not have effected his performances because he never had to do a lot of running (when he was 30+) and was very successful at this age just like Schweinsteiger would be
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Why are you bringing Scholes into this?

You said yourself he was never unfit so it's a moot point. And it doesn't matter how good you are, if you aren't fit enough to be playing there's no point you being here.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
Why are you bringing Scholes into this?

You said yourself he was never unfit so it's a moot point. And it doesn't matter how good you are, if you aren't fit enough to be playing there's no point you being here.
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He is definitely fit enough to play. He is a ball player so doesn't need to be the fittest in the squad.

Mourinho won't like him because he is too slow to defend, just like Scholes. He played Xabi Alonso at Madrid but only next to an athlete like Diarra or Khedira.
 
Scholesy said:
He is definitely fit enough to play. He is a ball player so doesn't need to be the fittest in the squad.

Mourinho won't like him because he is too slow to defend, just like Scholes. He played Xabi Alonso at Madrid but only next to an athlete like Diarra or Khedira.
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But he also showed last season that his passing is nowhere near Scholes nor Xabi Alonso. He isn't and never was a Xabi Alonso type of player anyway.
 
Jazz said:
You see, I'm hoping Mourinho hasn't based his decision on what these 'senior' players have reported - this is what I'm afraid might have happened. Any decisions that he makes, should not come from hearsay - he should investigate this properly, and at least give him a chance like he's giving to all the other players. If he still wants him out, then of course do it. But the decision shouldn't be based on hearsay, if that's what's happened.
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I'm hoping he hasn't made the decision after shaking a magic 8 ball. The decision shouldn't be based on a silly child's toy, if that's what's happened. If anything he should've made the decision from watching Schweinsteiger waddling about the pitch and visibly out of breath after 15 minutes.
 
Perhaps he trains with the U23 team until he's in good enough shape? I just can't see Mourinho sorting him out without giving him any kind of chance.
As much as I can only reiterate how much I criticized this transfer last summer, I have lots of respect for him and deserves better treatment.
 
I don't mind him leaving if it means more minutes for Pereira or TFM, however I do think the team lacks playmakers and experience. It is probably best, we have too many midfielders and only two spots in midfield.
 
Kant-ona said:
Feels like the next "Evra" to me. He is forced out, he will go to Italy probably and maybe he will show 2-3 very good seasons there.

A bit classless, to be honest. Schweinsteiger always gave 100% for the club when he was fit. There were a lot players much younger with weaker performances who are still in the squad imo.
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The next "Evra"? Evra that was offered a new contract but decided to move on because he needed something fresh. How does this compare at all?
 
In hindsight he should have never left Bayern, should of stayed a one club man and retired there. The career he's had doesn't deserve to end with him being a journeyman
 
I do feel bad about how this going down, but I guess I don't know all the facts. Personally I'd keep him. Considering his injuries, he'd obviously not be starting all the time, but I definitely see value in the team and the squad. Shame.
 
charlenefan said:
In hindsight he should have never left Bayern, should of stayed a one club man and retired there. The career he's had doesn't deserve to end with him being a journeyman
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If there is truth(i still hope there isnt) that Mourinho doesnt count on him i hope he retires or goes back to Bayern....would hate to see him in some average club or even worse - MLS/China.
 
We all don't know what is really happening but speculations are of course part of a forum........he's a football legend and i would like to see him another season at Old Trafford (especially because i think Mourinho will/must soon realize 4-3-3 is the way to go and not 4-2-3-1).

But the club were surely not so happy with Schweinsteiger in 2016.....he was much more in Munich than in Manchester.
 
Seems very harsh to treat him like this. It looked like he was very committed to the club and seemed a great and experienced guy to have around. Even if he is injury prone now I see no harm in keeping him around for 10-15 games a season.

However if Mourinho doesn't want him involved there's no point having him in training and working with the tactics. If Schweini doesn't want to accept that then what else can you do but get him to train away from the squad? No point training tactics with a player who won't be involved in the season.

Just a bit of devil's advocate though. I'd keep him.
 
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Over the hill fan favourite Schweinsteiger potentially receiving the treatment people were desperately hoping Rooney would receive.
You couldn't make it up.
Like a repeat of the 'Van Gaal will fall out with Rooney' hopes that everyone clung onto.

Suddenly now everybody's bothered about the club showing respect...
 
A sad conclusion (ish) to a truly phenomenal career. I'm inclined to echo the calls of disrespect. Mourinho will sell more players than Schweinsteiger and the likes of Blackett and McNair, yet they're still training with the first team. This seems more like a statement of sorts. Mourinho coming in and casting aside the most experienced and successful player in the squad is a bold move, but one he can get away with due to Schweinsteiger's recency and injury record.
 
Kag said:
A sad conclusion (ish) to a truly phenomenal career. I'm inclined to echo the calls of disrespect. Mourinho will sell more players than Schweinsteiger and the likes of Blackett and McNair, yet they're still training with the first team. This seems more like a statement of sorts. Mourinho coming in and casting aside the most experienced and successful player in the squad is a bold move, but one he can get away with due to Schweinsteiger's recency and injury record.
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But they're not. Blackett wasn't even given a squad number.
 
limerickcitykid said:
But they're not. Blackett wasn't even given a squad number.
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It's a poor sentence. "Mourinho will sell more players..."

I was referring to the likes of Rojo, maybe a couple of others such Valencia or Darmian, that I don't expect to see the window out. I suppose the only difference with these guys is that their departures would rely on bringing in a replacement.
 
He's done nowt for us, we kept hearing from the press he was flying back to Germany at every opportunity, missed 2/3rds of the season yet managed to scrape himself together to play for his beloved national team in the summer. Whispers he was recieving special treatment from LvG, all while taking home one of the highest paychecks at the club, I really won't miss him if he gets unceremoniously binned. Personally don't care what his name is.
 
None of our midfielders have been great or reliable. Let them prove themselves and fight for a spot. Unless something has happened behind the scenes I don't know why he's not being given a chance.
 
I don't understand how some fans can get attached to players so quickly, specially when they haven't that much for the club nor haven't performed that well for it. A decision like that on a player like him wasn't taken just like that, something which displeased Mourinho and his coaching staff took place. I honestly don't care if this means that he'll leave, he's done next to nothing for the club for many reasons.
 
santeria13 said:
Furthermore, it seems a bit funny to me he spent most of the season on the sideline for us and then was in top shape all of a sudden for the euros. It's quite clear his priorities lie elsewhere and we don't need that kind of player here, regardless of status.
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I think that's a huge stretch. The German psyche is massively different (in general) to ours - the german captain being anything other than utterly professional is massively unlikely. I just don't see it. The fact he was fit for the euros will have been complete coincidence.

I think we're mad to let him go.
 
crackers0seven said:
I dont see the sense in getting rid after one season. Id perfer to have him getting minutes in midfield ahead of fellaini and rooney. And if it doesnt work out fitness wise we could get shot of him in January or next summer. Good experienced professionals are great to have around for the youngers. Him zlatan and carrick can only benefit us
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Rooney doesn't even play midfield anymore.
 
Kag said:
It's a poor sentence. "Mourinho will sell more players..."

I was referring to the likes of Rojo, maybe a couple of others such Valencia or Darmian, that I don't expect to see the window out. I suppose the only difference with these guys is that their departures would rely on bringing in a replacement.
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You don't expect Valencia to see the window out?

Based on what exactly?
 
K2K said:
You don't expect Valencia to see the window out?

Based on what exactly?
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I don't know. But if we were to buy a right back, and reports suggest we might be, then one of Valencia or Darmian will likely be allowed to leave. Probably Darmian, in fairness, but you never know.
 
Sad to see a former football legend treated that way, but promising to see Jose being so ruthless. Schweinsteiger isnt good enough anymore, regardless of what the fanboys say about his "maestro" performances. We need far better, only that apart from Carrick, Pogba and Fellaini, I dont think the others are better options.
 
Its been like watching Roy Keane at Celtic, watching this former great play for us. The good games he had for us were all that was in the tank these days. He's so knackered. He's a club legend at Bayern, yet they got rid of him with minimal fuss on the cheap. If that club (his club) were so eager to sell him, it should be a no brainer for us. As much as I admire Schweinsteiger, he should be moved on. You cant have a play who isnt capable of playing 90 minutes 2 weeks on the bounce on £200k a week.
 
Feel bad for Schweini, but he was clearly past his best. If Mourinho doesn't consider him a part of his plans, then so be it. Wish it could've been on better terms.
 
He'll be no great loss. Never got the sense he was that committed to the club anyway.
 
He fit LVG's philosophy of possession football. If we had Pep instead of Mourinho, he'd probably still fit ours.

As it is, he probably is surplus to requirements and is too good a player not to be playing at this point in his career. He's too highly paid and too high profile to be a squad player for United.

So he should go find a club that will want and play him. There should be plenty clubs who will take him on although I don't know about his wages.

So I understand the decision, but I still feel that it is disrespectful and harsh to simply force him out in this way.
 
Clubs and fans get angry when players sit out to demand a new contract or a richer deal at another club.

But when it comes to forcing out a player whose wages we no longer want to pay, we feel differently.
 
FujiVice said:
Its been like watching Roy Keane at Celtic, watching this former great play for us. The good games he had for us were all that was in the tank these days. He's so knackered. He's a club legend at Bayern, yet they got rid of him with minimal fuss on the cheap. If that club (his club) were so eager to sell him, it should be a no brainer for us. As much as I admire Schweinsteiger, he should be moved on. You cant have a play who isnt capable of playing 90 minutes 2 weeks on the bounce on £200k a week.
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I actually see it as the other way around. His standing at Bayern and their support was the reason, why Bayern demanded so little to make the move go underway as smoothly as possible and to give Schweinsteiger a good position in the negotations of personal terms.

I have no doubt that Schweinsteiger could have ended his career at Bayern if he wanted to. Bayern always treated their legends with a lot of respect and generousity. He just would have been contend with being just a squad player anymore given their strong competition in midfield. I think he viewed United as a chance to Play a bigger role at a similarily prestigious Club.

When I first heard of this in today´s News my first reaction was "How classy...", but so far we really only have one side of the story. It would be wiser to wait if there come informations to light which would put this situation in a better context.
 
Ferguson said:
He fit LVG's philosophy of possession football. If we had Pep instead of Mourinho, he'd probably still fit ours.

As it is, he probably is surplus to requirements and is too good a player not to be playing at this point in his career. He's too highly paid and too high profile to be a squad player for United.

So he should go find a club that will want and play him. There should be plenty clubs who will take him on although I don't know about his wages.

So I understand the decision, but I still feel that it is disrespectful and harsh to simply force him out in this way.
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Pep got rid of him once, I doubt he would hesitate to do it again.
 
It is a dick move, Mou punishing Schweini to show authority. I dont think a player like Schweinsteiger would feck around if not in the managers plans, i would expect him to move anyway.

Lets hope Wayne gets the same treatment when not wanted, eh lads.
 
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