Aymeric Laporte | Txiki doesn't forgive (except for when he does)

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Having to recover from a long term injury, find some kind of form and still have to adapt to the English league just as Otamendi is struggling to do?
This is a horrific piece of business. What if he turns out to be a Valencia? He could end up becoming hesitant to stick his leg in for a 50/50 tackle which would be terrible for the position he plays in
 
cyberman said:
Having to recover from a long term injury, find some kind of form and still have to adapt to the English league just as Otamendi is struggling to do?
This is a horrific piece of business. What if he turns out to be a Valencia? He could end up becoming hesitant to stick his leg in for a 50/50 tackle which would be terrible for the position he plays in
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City and his agents are not putting his welfare first. He should be left at Bilbao for a season to prove his fitness. If he does a Barcelona might be in a position to get him. Also Bilbao fans are not very forgiving of players wanting to leave. In a way he is lucky he isn't playing as they would make his life hell. As you say proving your fitness in the PL could be a disaster for the lad, which is a shame.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
City and his agents are not putting his welfare first. He should be left at Bilbao for a season to prove his fitness. If he does a Barcelona might be in a position to get him. Also Bilbao fans are not very forgiving of players wanting to leave. In a way he is lucky he isn't playing as they would make his life hell. As you say proving your fitness in the PL could be a disaster for the lad, which is a shame.
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How are they not putting his welfare first? I don't see the difference in whether he makes his return at Athletic Club or at Man City, either way he still has to recover from a broken ankle...
 
Bob Loblaw said:
How are they not putting his welfare first? I don't see the difference in whether he makes his return at Athletic Club or at Man City, either way he still has to recover from a broken ankle...
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His recovery at Bilbao would be with no pressure, they would ease him back gently. If City buy him for a big fee then he might try to show he is worth the fee and overdo the tackling and cause himself more problems. City cannot pay that sort of money and have him not contributing almost immediately.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
His recovery at Bilbao would be with no pressure, they would ease him back gently. If City buy him for a big fee then he might try to show he is worth the fee and overdo the tackling and cause himself more problems. City cannot pay that sort of money and have him not contributing almost immediately.
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I think you're just speculating. There's nothing to suggest he'd be eased in more at Athletic Club than he would be at City. You can say that about the fee but equally you can argue that Athletic Club would rush him back due to a lack of replacement.
 
With the football Pep wants to play, they badly need some young players with on the ball ability and players that can string a few passes together. Laporte, Gündogan and Ter Stegen (if they buy them all) is a very good step forward. Add in another 2-3 players, and they are back again with a rejuvenated team.
 
izec said:
With the football Pep wants to play, they badly need some young players with on the ball ability and players that can string a few passes together. Laporte, Gündogan and Ter Stegen (if they buy them all) is a very good step forward. Add in another 2-3 players, and they are back again with a rejuvenated team.
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Pity we didn't realise that Laporte and Gundogan might help us produce some good football.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
I think you're just speculating. There's nothing to suggest he'd be eased in more at Athletic Club than he would be at City. You can say that about the fee but equally you can argue that Athletic Club would rush him back due to a lack of replacement.
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He is saying it will be easier for him to go back to playing in a league he is used to. He will have less pressure at Athletic cos he doesn't have to justify his price and acclimate to the new league.
 
RedStarUnited said:
He is saying it will be easier for him to go back to playing in a league he is used to. He will have less pressure at Athletic cos he doesn't have to justify his price and acclimate to the new league.
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That is exactly what I meant, even more annoyed that we didn't get him. He would be perfect for us.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Pity we didn't realise that Laporte and Gundogan might help us produce some good football.
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I think we do, we were getting linked a lot of times with them and both of them are on every top club's radar for a good reason. We just rarely know what we do in the tarnsfer market these days, dithering around with Ed having tons of things to do and a bit out of his depth maybe, and our managerial situation is probably still not 100% resolved.
 
RedStarUnited said:
He is saying it will be easier for him to go back to playing in a league he is used to. He will have less pressure at Athletic cos he doesn't have to justify his price and acclimate to the new league.
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That applies to every player moving clubs though, and would still apply if he hadn't suffered the injury.

If that's the justification then no club who's bought a player has ever had their welfare in mind.
 
That'll make it about £120m to find a partner for Kompany and Kompany himself has turned into an injury prone wreck.

Amazing how most of us in here laud City's transfers. Desperate for us to sign Mangala then Otamendi and now Laporte. Don't get me wrong, Laporte is a serious talent and he'll likely be the one to partner Kompany properly, but I repeat, they've spent £120m+ to get to this position.

I repeat this so often, lets just focus on ourselves. Get our CB right this summer to partner Smalling and there won't be a massive difference between ours and City's defences man for man. Right now I'd rather have Smalling than Kompany and I'm sure we'll get our own CB this summer as well.
 
Did someone really say City are showing us how a club should be run? Otamendi cost big money, and he's decent at best. Mangala cost a bomb and City fans wish Mangala was anywhere near decent. He's a bomb scare. Delph and Fernando would need to improve to be bang average. 50million for Sterling, an attacking player who can't finish.

Nah. The club that signed Wilfried Bony for £28m is definitely not leading the way for others in how to run a football club.
 
Bubz27 said:
That'll make it about £120m to find a partner for Kompany and Kompany himself has turned into an injury prone wreck.

Amazing how most of us in here laud City's transfers. Desperate for us to sign Mangala then Otamendi and now Laporte. Don't get me wrong, Laporte is a serious talent and he'll likely be the one to partner Kompany properly, but I repeat, they've spent £120m+ to get to this position.

I repeat this so often, lets just focus on ourselves. Get our CB right this summer to partner Smalling and there won't be a massive difference between ours and City's defences man for man. Right now I'd rather have Smalling than Kompany and I'm sure we'll get our own CB this summer as well.
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Can't really disagree with much you've said. Our record with CB's has been pretty abysmal since the takeover. We both possess a top class CB in Kompany and Smalling but Kompany's injury problems are getting to the point that Pep will have to plan for the season on the basis he will not be fit for most of it. If he keeps fit he's the best in the league as far as I'm concerned and he can make whoever plays alongside him look half-decent. However with all our fullbacks aged over 30+ we're going to have to sell at least two of them this summer, which means more upheaval for the defence. Angelino will hopefully be given a chance under Pep but we'll still need to sign a high quality LB regardless, and I'm not sure Maffeo is ready yet so we're going to have to sign a RB as well. Our defence next season will likely contain two or three new faces, even if they are all successful it's unlikely they'll gel instantly. Going to be another interesting season.
 
Aymeric Laporte agrees to Manchester City move

According to Gianluca di Marzio, French central defender and Athletic Bilbao man Aymeric Laporte has provisionally agreed to a move to Premier League outfit Manchester City.

Manchester City are in active negotiations with Athletic Bilbao over activating the player’s 50 million Euros release clause, according to the report.

Laporte has long dreamt of Barcelona, but the allure of working under Pep Guardiola has proven too tempting and the player has given his go ahead for a move to the Premier League side.


Source: getfootballnewsfrance.com
 
Downcast said:
Aymeric Laporte agrees to Manchester City move

According to Gianluca di Marzio, French central defender and Athletic Bilbao man Aymeric Laporte has provisionally agreed to a move to Premier League outfit Manchester City.

Manchester City are in active negotiations with Athletic Bilbao over activating the player’s 50 million Euros release clause, according to the report.

Laporte has long dreamt of Barcelona, but the allure of working under Pep Guardiola has proven too tempting and the player has given his go ahead for a move to the Premier League side.


Source: getfootballnewsfrance.com
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Oh for feck's sake, late for the party as per usual. Bloody City doing their business early.
 
Kostur said:
Oh for feck's sake, late for the party as per usual. Bloody City doing their business early.
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If I wasn't annoyed enough with United this has added to it. They better get Jose. They are always taking their eye off the ball while they are too busy patting each other on the back and looking at the past.
 
A player like Matthieu (Barcelona) could be a smart acquisition.
 
Isn't the source a little dubious ? I can't see see City spending 50m on a CB yet again, after Otamendi and Mangala.
 
dead joe said:
Isn't the source a little dubious ? I can't see see City spending 50m on a CB yet again, after Otamendi and Mangala.
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He has a good reputation in Italy.

What is certain is that they need a central defender and I can't imagine Guardiola relying on them.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
If I wasn't annoyed enough with United this has added to it. They better get Jose. They are always taking their eye off the ball while they are too busy patting each other on the back and looking at the past.
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Yea it's a bit annoying that we're so complacent and non-aggressive in the market. Say City get both Laporte and Gundogan, both would be automatic starters for us. Laporte's an easy deal because he's got a buyout clause, Gundogan could as well just prefer Pep to whoever the feck is in charge here but still we should put up a fight because we are in decent financial position to do so.

The rumours about Gundogan to City are floating for months now, we should jump the chance in that sense that even if we don't buy him, City will have to pay up.
 
Are people seriously annoyed that we're not trying to sign an expensive, inexperienced defender with a badly broken leg? Not saying it wouldn't work out but that is the very definition of a gamble.
 
dead joe said:
Isn't the source a little dubious ? I can't see see City spending 50m on a CB yet again, after Otamendi and Mangala.
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I can. They have a lot of money and a ball playing defender is one of their priorities. It will be a very good signing for them, and I have been screaming for him for the last two years. Comfortably better than any of our defenders, while also very good with the ball. The only problem is his injury.

Now, we will go and spent more on an inferior player like Stones.
 
TwoSheds said:
Are people seriously annoyed that we're not trying to sign an expensive, inexperienced defender with a badly broken leg? Not saying it wouldn't work out but that is the very definition of a gamble.
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It is not particularly that we dont go for an injured Laporte, for me it is our whole approach. Buying players every year in August when we could get them earlier is just tiresome and not ideal. Laporte is an excellent young CB for years now and one of the best young CBs around. He is gettable and looks to want a summer move, would be the dieal partner for Smalling. He actually can defend, not like Stones.
 
izec said:
It is not particularly that we dont go for an injured Laporte, for me it is our whole approach. Buying players every year in August when we could get them earlier is just tiresome and not ideal. Laporte is an excellent young CB for years now and one of the best young CBs around. He is gettable and looks to want a summer move, would be the dieal partner for Smalling. He actually can defend, not like Stones.
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Maybe that is why we need a DOF as this lot haven't got a clue what to do. They take dithering to a new level. He would have been perfect for us, instead we will waste a lot more money on Stones who as you say is going to have to be taught to defend. Oh joy!
 
izec said:
It is not particularly that we dont go for an injured Laporte, for me it is our whole approach. Buying players every year in August when we could get them earlier is just tiresome and not ideal. Laporte is an excellent young CB for years now and one of the best young CBs around. He is gettable and looks to want a summer move, would be the dieal partner for Smalling. He actually can defend, not like Stones.
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We signed everyone early ladt year bar Martial. Morgan said we went in for him last January.
 
cyberman said:
We signed everyone early ladt year bar Martial. Morgan said we went in for him last January.
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True, most of them in July. This year everything could turn out to be different again, with van Gaal or Mou in charge, because no one knows who will be in charge. Other than Renato Sanches, i dont see many early transfers.
 
izec said:
True, most of them in July. This year everything could turn out to be different again, with van Gaal or Mou in charge, because no one knows who will be in charge. Other than Renato Sanches, i dont see many early transfers.
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Which could be a reason why we have missed out on someone who would fit us like a glove. That City have got Pep and here god knows who the manager will be. A dinosaur like LvG, a rookie like Giggs or a winner like Jose.
 
izec said:
True, most of them in July. This year everything could turn out to be different again, with van Gaal or Mou in charge, because no one knows who will be in charge. Other than Renato Sanches, i dont see many early transfers.
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Yes but it doesn't mean nothing is happening if we don't know. Again Morgan said we were in for him in January yet until the week before we signed him we all thought he was Arsenal bound.
If Jose is our manager he simply has be planning ahead for next season. It's the only advantage we can have from all of this.
 
TwoSheds said:
Are people seriously annoyed that we're not trying to sign an expensive, inexperienced defender with a badly broken leg? Not saying it wouldn't work out but that is the very definition of a gamble.
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He's a hell of a lot more experienced than Martial was. Almost 150 appearances for Bilbao and over 20 Europa League/Champion League appearances.
 
WhoDaGOAT said:
He's a hell of a lot more experienced than Martial was. Almost 150 appearances for Bilbao and over 20 Europa League/Champion League appearances.
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Also better and more accomplished than Stones who we will pay way over the odds for because he is ENGLISH, as if that is some great attribute. We will get a close up look at him today, if he starts of course.
 
What's the update on his broken ankle? Wouldn't it be a massive risk to sign a young CB with a broken ankle for 50M Euros?
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Also better and more accomplished than Stones who we will pay way over the odds for because he is ENGLISH, as if that is some great attribute. We will get a close up look at him today, if he starts of course.
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Stones is rated highly due to his passing range and bravery on the ball. He is still young though and is producing the occasional brain fart.

His positioning needs to improve. But I see a young Rio in him, who himself wasn't the finished article until his mid 20's.
 
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What's the update on his broken ankle? Wouldn't it be a massive risk to sign a young CB with a broken ankle for 50M Euros?
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Yes it is. I am surprised it has not held it back say for a season. Prove his fitness. If he breaks down, then it is 50m wasted. He really wants to play for Barcelona, he could end up there yet.
 
Why does everyone think we're going to buy Stones? We weren't in for him last year before everyone realised he can't defend, we won't be in for him this year either.
 
TwoSheds said:
Why does everyone think we're going to buy Stones? We weren't in for him last year before everyone realised he can't defend, we won't be in for him this year either.
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Koulibaly hasn't been great today either. Napoli's league title hope just about gone. Lost 3-1 and he gave a stupid penalty away.
 
VanGaalEra said:
What's the update on his broken ankle? Wouldn't it be a massive risk to sign a young CB with a broken ankle for 50M Euros?
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Plus, although I can't talk for everyone else, his name is one of these 'buzz' names who people want us to sign because he's in fashion at the moment. I've seen him play maybe once, which is probably as often as anyone else. I've never seen Andre Gomes or Renato Sanches, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone.
 
Santiago_KinderBueno said:
We have more chance getting him if LVG was in charge than Jose.

I'm hoping we have players lined up from both managers if Jose dioes come
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Why? He was available last year (for a smaller release clause) when we were crying out for a centre back but we did nothing. He's even left footed to fit LVGs bizarre LCB philosophy.

I don't trust LVGs judgement on transfers at all.
 
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