Aymeric Laporte | Txiki doesn't forgive (except for when he does)

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Exactly. The guy was voted in La Ligas team of the year in 13/14 season and yet that wasn't deemed good enough to get 1 friendly cap? Bilbao aren't exactly a shit team fgs, he's been in Europe for the past 2 years. So he should have been at least tried and allowed to see if he could get into the Euro Team but instead you leave him on the sidelines. It's bizarre management. I'd understand it if he was playing in Ligue 1 with bad players, but this guy has to defend against the likes or Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Suarez etc

There is nothing bizarre, when you take into account that Varane-Koscielny are consistently good for France, that Sakho for some reason turns into a very good player when he wears the french shirt and Mangala is alright with France too, that Zouma brings speed and is as good as Laporte. CB is the one spot where we are fine. If he wants to play for Spain then good luck to him.
 
There is nothing bizarre, when you take into account that Varane-Koscielny are consistently good for France, that Sakho for some reason turns into a very good player when he wears the french shirt and Mangala is alright with France too, that Zouma brings speed and is as good as Laporte. CB is the one spot where we are fine. If he wants to play for Spain then good luck to him.
But the point he's making is that he hasn't even been given a single chance to prove himself with France. He's clearly promising, and could end up being the best of the French bunch...
 
But the point he's making is that he hasn't even been given a single chance to prove himself with France. He's clearly promising, and could end up being the best of the French bunch...
When you look at some of the garbage England throw caps at and this lad doesn't get a look in for his country. A cap in a friendly might have shown them how good he is.
 
But the point he's making is that he hasn't even been given a single chance to prove himself with France. He's clearly promising, and could end up being the best of the French bunch...

And my point is that we have our defense for the Euro, we are playing for the Euro, he is playing for the U21 Euro and he is 21 years old and have a lot of time to be France best CB, there is no reason to rush anything, there is no reason to drop players who have been good. If he wants to take the Spanish nationality and play for them, in that case we don't need him.
 
And my point is that we have our defense for the Euro, we are playing for the Euro, he is playing for the U21 Euro and he is 21 years old and have a lot of time to be France best CB, there is no reason to rush anything, there is no reason to drop players who have been good. If he wants to take the Spanish nationality and play for them, in that case we don't need him.

You'll definitely live to regret it. One single cap would rule out Spain selecting him, for that alone it's worth it. What kind of message sends it to players, just because you play well for the NT, your performances for the club are ignored? Prime examples here being Mangala and Sissoko. You should want the best team possible.
 
You'll definitely live to regret it. One single cap would rule out Spain selecting him, for that alone it's worth it. What kind of message sends it to players, just because you play well for the NT, your performances for the club are ignored? Prime examples here being Mangala and Sissoko. You should want the best team possible.

Sissoko is a mystery but Mangala doesn't play for France, iirc he has been selected 3 times in the last 2 years.
 
Think there's a middle ground here. Agree with @JPRouve that it's beneficial for him to stay in the u21s if he's not going to start for the full squad. A lot of the Spanish lot have spoken about how they feel they've benefitted from u21 glory instead of senior fringe appearances.

On the other hand, those players were called up sporadically in Spanish friendlies to recognise their impressive club form.

It's too late to call up players for token caps if there's no chance of them going to the Euros, but Laporte should have had a cap or 2 in previous years considering his impressive form.
 
And my point is that we have our defense for the Euro, we are playing for the Euro, he is playing for the U21 Euro and he is 21 years old and have a lot of time to be France best CB, there is no reason to rush anything, there is no reason to drop players who have been good. If he wants to take the Spanish nationality and play for them, in that case we don't need him.
He's been at a decent level for well over a year now, if I'm right. Could have and should have got at least 1 cap in a friendly or something. Just because your defence appears to be sorted doesn't mean it's daft to experiment. A lot of people would argue Laporte is as good as Varane!
 
Think there's a middle ground here. Agree with @JPRouve that it's beneficial for him to stay in the u21s if he's not going to start for the full squad. A lot of the Spanish lot have spoken about how they feel they've benefitted from u21 glory instead of senior fringe appearances.

On the other hand, those players were called up sporadically in Spanish friendlies to recognise their impressive club form.

It's too late to call up players for token caps if there's no chance of them going to the Euros, but Laporte should have had a cap or 2 in previous years considering his impressive form.

The main problem is the locker room, the defense is the only stable part of the team, the leaders are in that group while the rest of theam has been in construction, toying with it is difficult, the rest of the team has been modified a lot.
 
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The main problem is the locker room, the defense is the only stable part of the team, the leaders are in that group while the rest of theam has been in construction, toying with it is difficult, the rest of team has been modified a lot.

I think youve explain things well, it makes sense to keep him in the u21s, if he cant wait, then so be it.
 
The main problem is the locker room, the defense is the only stable part of the team, the leaders are in that group while the rest of theam has been in construction, toying with it is difficult, the rest of team has been modified a lot.

Maybe true. I don't think you have to make a huge modification to recognise him for one game though - just call up the usual centre backs (Varane, Sakho and Koscielny) with Laporte taking the final place for a friendly or two and give him a game. Just to recognise his performances.
 
Maybe true. I don't think you have to make a huge modification to recognise him for one game though - just call up the usual centre backs (Varane, Sakho and Koscielny) with Laporte taking the final place for a friendly or two and give him a game. Just to recognise his performances.

That's true but we had to do that for Zouma because like I said unlike Laporte Zouma brings something different, strategically, Zouma was the priority. I understand why people react that way and think that he is snubbed but we are not going to take the U21 captain just to bench him, you guys have to think about the fact that doing that would have meant weakening the youth team, while the seniors only had friendlies, the U21 mainly played qualifiers.
As for recognition, none of us know if Deschamps talked to him and told him what he thinks about him, the U21 are in the same place than the seniors.
 
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That's true but we had to do that for Zouma because like I said unlike Laporte Zouma brings something different, strategically, Zouma was the priority. I understand why people react that way and think that he is snubbed but we are not going to take the U21 captain just to bench him, you guys have to think about the fact that to doing that would have meant weakening the youth team, while the seniors only had friendlies, the U21 mainly played qualifiers.
As for recognition, none of us know if Deschamps talked to him and told him what he thinks about him, the U21 are in the same place than the seniors.

Fair enough. Good point on the u21 qualifiers actually, I'd overlooked that and was thinking they were playing friendlies too.

Spain have done the same now you say that - Bellerín and Saúl weren't called up to the recent Spain squad because they wanted them for the u21 qualifier.
 
Bilbao have released a statement on his injury.They have confirmed that he has a fractured-dislocation of the fibula and right ankle.Poor guy getting a broken leg and ankle,he may never be the same.It's such a shame,really like him.He would have been amazing with Smalling and we were linked with him. Hope he comes back from it,poor man.
 
Bilbao have released a statement on his injury.They have confirmed that he has a fractured-dislocation of the fibula and right ankle.Poor guy getting a broken leg and ankle,he may never be the same.It's such a shame,really like him.He would have been amazing with Smalling and we were linked with him. Hope he comes back from it,poor man.
Poor lad. That is terrible. He will get well looked after. :(:(
 
How long would this sort of injury keep a player out for? Suppose it depends if there is any ligament damage as well?
 
How long would this sort of injury keep a player out for? Suppose it depends if there is any ligament damage as well?

:lol: I wish, Benzema wouldn't be a topic and Sissoko wouldn't be a thing.
 
How long would this sort of injury keep a player out for? Suppose it depends if there is any ligament damage as well?
I read 2/3 months but but those ankle injuries can heal unreliably, drag on for a while and require multiple surgeries.

The worst is when there's serious cartilage damage, you may never fully recover.
 
I read 2/3 months but but those ankle injuries can heal unreliably, drag on for a while and require multiple surgeries.

The worst is when there's serious cartilage damage, you may never fully recover.
I would have thought that any dislocation injury could make it prone to the same injury again.
 
I read 2/3 months but but those ankle injuries can heal unreliably, drag on for a while and require multiple surgeries.

The worst is when there's serious cartilage damage, you may never fully recover.
Not a doctor, but speaking from personal experience this is correct. I might be speaking the obvious but the ankle is very high up on the list of joints you don't want to feck up. The tolerance of how it needs to heal up is minuscule.
 
Season over. No transfers this year.

 
Wanted us to sign Gundogan and Laporte. Guess we can't really do any transfer business with the manager not even confirmed
 
Showing us how a club should be run. Laporte and Gundogan 2 players I thought looked perfect for us last summer, but I'm no scout I suppose. Hopefully not true.
That was suggested a couple of weeks back then he broke and dislocated his ankle. It would be a risk until he can prove he has recovered fully.
 
Meh. After the Hargreaves and Schweinsteiger experiment the Caf would be up in arms in we bought a player with a dislocated ancle and a fractured fibula for £40m.
 
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Spending big money on a young lad who's just smashed his ankle? Pretty risky..

He's obviously a good player if he fully recovers but then again otamendi looked fantastic in Spain too, it's a different kettle of fish in England.
 
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