Vaughan is the worst.
Australia Tour of South Africa 2018/Ball tampering
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Which is, actually the biggest shame.
Same when they toured India. They complained how aggressive Indians are. It was fun to watch Australian Telegraph moaning about Kohli everyday.
Exactly.
Bancroft dismissed run out by Du Plessis. Two individuals found guilty of ball tampering involved in the 1st dismissal of the Aussie innings. Warner soon followed. Well caught by De Villiers off the bowling of Rabada. Both batsmen were booed on their way off. Steve Smith booed too upon his arrival. Fair enough. All three had an involvement in the cheating that took place.
Bancroft got stiched up by the leadership group of Australia again.
Hahaha
The front page of Brisbane's Courier Mail
How did they think they'd get away with it? Aren't all test matches covered by a million TV cameras?
The stupidity of the act is nearly as bad as the cheating itself!
The stupidity of the act is nearly as bad as the cheating itself!
Reckon as some others have pointed out that they have been getting away with all at Home all Summer where TV feed is controlled by the Australians. That arrogance and comfort probably lead to them thinking they could get away with it in South Africa.
Got to say it was a great bit of trolling from Broad above.
Australia require another 336 runs to win
Australia 47-0 at tea to 107 all out (Morkel 5-23) on the fourth day
Wow, don't think i've ever seen, nor heard of an International side losing 10 wickets in a session
Wow, don't think i've ever seen, nor heard of an International side losing 10 wickets in a session
England did earlier this week
NZ didn't even had to go to their third choice bowler when they bowled out England.
One word: Embarrassing.
Well done to South Africa though. This Aussie team has a lot to do if they're going to avoid becoming the first Aussie team to lose a series in RSA since 1970.
Well done to South Africa though. This Aussie team has a lot to do if they're going to avoid becoming the first Aussie team to lose a series in RSA since 1970.
England did earlier this week
Seems unlikely now that they'll be without Smith and probably two or three more.
England did earlier this week
I didn't start watching till England were 6 down, and when the commentators said England were bowled out before the Tea session i'd forget it was a day-night match and they start at Dinner time, I just presumed there had been rain interruptions.
4 – The number of times a team has been dismissed before lunch on the first day of a Test. Australia is the only team to feature in this list twice. They were also bowled out before lunch at Lord’s in 1896. The other two teams to have lost 10 wickets before lunch are India against South Africa at Ahmedabad in 2008 and New Zealand against South Africa at Cape Town in 2013.
So England make it five then.
Don't remember either the 2008 or 2013 matches, both achieved by South Africa, Steyn 5-23 in the first match, Philander 5-7 in the second
So England make it five then.
Don't remember either the 2008 or 2013 matches, both achieved by South Africa, Steyn 5-23 in the first match, Philander 5-7 in the second
Possible life ban for Smith and Warner from CA. Couldn't have happened to a finer bunch.
Oh, I remember that 2008 match like it was yesterday. Bowled out for 72, India were. South Africa responded with 500+. Ah... the flat wickets of India.
Life ban? Seriously? That would be insane and idiotic.
It's unlikely, but i'm trying to find out if any five teams(Australia twice)that were bowled out before lunch on the first day of a Test match had win the toss and decided to bat first.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22908218/steven-smith-david-warner-face-life-ban-ca
I'm guessing it's just speculation.
And, it's not insane. The whole world was ready to kill the likes of Salman Butt, Asif and Amir for what they did. I don't see why this would be "insane and idiotic".
India elected to bat first in 2008, which makes it even funnier.
Yeah, just reading up on it now, Anil Kumble was the Indian Captain(0+5 and 1-78)
Life ban would be idiotic. Let’s not go overboard. Max punishment should be 3 match ban
It wasn't a bad decision, mind you. Steyn was phenomenal that morning - in fact he was throughout that tour. Think he got a 7-for during the Chennai test match where Sehwag racked up a measly 300.
It's obviously not going to happen but I find it amazing that you think that's a punishment that fits the crime. It's ridiculous. Spot fixing is completely different to ball tampering. C'mon...
Well, I don't make the rules - The maximum penalty available to the code of conduct commissioner is a life ban from the sport, with factors to be taken into account including "the seriousness of the breach" and "the harm caused by the breach to the interests of cricket".
Lol imagine comparing fixing a match to ball tampering
Came across this fascinating piece on England's relationship with reverse swing:
http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1087925/reverse-swing--an-english-tale
Well worth a read.
There is a part of me that thinks media, ex-players etc. are going a bit OTT (or perhaps they just lack self-awareness). It's annoying to see cricket fall victim for the narrative driven rubbish seen in other sports.
With all the technology we have available now it seems silly really that umpires do not take a picture of the state of the ball at the end of every over to monitor the condition of the ball and deter tampering. How about introducing a new ball after 60 overs instead of 80?
http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1087925/reverse-swing--an-english-tale
Well worth a read.
There is a part of me that thinks media, ex-players etc. are going a bit OTT (or perhaps they just lack self-awareness). It's annoying to see cricket fall victim for the narrative driven rubbish seen in other sports.
With all the technology we have available now it seems silly really that umpires do not take a picture of the state of the ball at the end of every over to monitor the condition of the ball and deter tampering. How about introducing a new ball after 60 overs instead of 80?
This problem can be solved easily.
Every team, along with the team sheet should name the player who will be handling the ball in terms of keeping the shine on one side, managing the ball for reverse swing etc, then place a dedicated camera on him.
Every team, along with the team sheet should name the player who will be handling the ball in terms of keeping the shine on one side, managing the ball for reverse swing etc, then place a dedicated camera on him.
Agree.
Now I think on I must've watched Steyn destroy India on the first morning, I certainly saw Kallis score a 100 and AB a double-century in South Africa's reply.
Sehwag's 319(304 balls) is probably the finest innings i've ever seen.
Read the piece in my post above, there's so many different ways teams can find to alter the condition of the ball. Mints, lozenges, sweat, throwing the ball on the bounce, glue on the cloth, adding dirt to one side etc etc. There needs to be better definition on what is tampering otherwise accusations will just start to fly left, right and centre.
Finding it hard to get my head around the nerve of Australia writing to complain about their players getting verbal abuse from South Africa fans when they have been at the forefront of weaponising personal abuse of opponents by fans for competitive advantage, not just tolerating it but with public rallying cries to verbally abuse opponents coming from the top of the team's coaching setup. Breathtaking levels of hypocrisy. If you're going to encourage your own fans to engage in it then it's just pitiful cowardice to start crying foul once you start getting a bit back.
I personally think the likes of mints, gums, throwing on the bounce etc.. should be allowed. It's a very grey area and tough to prove any intent in many of these cases. And to be frank, reverse swing is exciting to watch!
It is but the reason it is so exciting is because it's a specialised skill that is only usable in specific conditions (dry pitches, humid weather, floodlights and dark clouds etc.). For something you used to see once in a blue moon, all international teams can seemingly produce it very often now.
Yup plus I think Smith and Warner would be stripped off their responsibilities.