Arturo Vidal
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No thank you. Pogba is not the fastest. Vidal and Matic will be 30 soon. We don't need a slow midfield and off field disciplinary actions is not something we would like to deal with. We need someone who can be our Vidal of Juve. Seri seems like a good shout and so does Fabinho. With either players, we have the opportunity of getting a marquee signing, perhaps Dybala for the right wing.
Pogba is probably one of the fastest midfielders around. He was clocked at 21.5mph which is faster than likes of Rashford, Zaha and Walcott.
I read he likes booze a lot. We should rather look elsewhere. (as did Real and choose Kroos instead years ago)
Pogba is rapid. He just doesn’t look as quick due to his big stride because of his height.
If he is still so great, Bayern wouldn't think of letting him go. That part we learned, I hope so.
He's world class on his day but I worry he's got too much baggage and too many miles on the clock to make a punt on him worthwhile.
I would say no thanks and use the wage money elsewhere.
I would say no thanks and use the wage money elsewhere.
He has issues, that he shows more often when he is with Chile national team, but he has an extremely good biotype that probably will allow him to perform at good to top level at least until 32 or more and maybe a couple of years at centre back.
The guy is professional with his training and also has a personal trainer to be at top level. In that side i hard to say something about him, but Vidal loves parties, is not that he drinks 24/7, that wouldn't allow him to perform, but at the moment he has to party he doesn't know limits, most of the times with his circle of childhood friends, who are not the best influences.
About his performances, he suffered his first drop of level in years, and with him also most of Chilean national team players (Alexis included), because the elimination at the World Cup Qualifiers. That was a real shock and they started to reach their top level again just recently. (I would recomend you to see some matches of Aranguiz in Leverkusen, for me a much better player, far smarter than Vidal but without his physical power).
If Manchester go for him would not be a waste of money, but the risks are too high, he will perform but at what cost?. O think you want a midfield (of 3) like what he had with Pogba go for Dier, if you want a mix close to Dortmund or Madrid go for Weigl and the other position you can try to get a more creative player.
Think he'll end up at Chelsea.
Exactly. Still gutted we only got one season out of Hargreaves and dodged a cannon ball with Renato Sanches.
I haven't seen him this year,but if Bayern are letting someone go then it's best to not go near them..
Reading the previous page I don't fancy him at all.. Showing drunk to training and all are a big no no to any club!
Reading the previous page I don't fancy him at all.. Showing drunk to training and all are a big no no to any club!
Not the player we need anymore and Jose will build a midfield for the future. Matic brought us maturity and stability, we're covered
I don't mind. Like most players, some will be for it some not. He's 5/6 years younger then Carrick so I don't know. If we added Ozil and Vidal to the squad (cause we will be losing Carrick and possibly Fellaini) then we will certain retain experience. Ozils all about wages and Vidal wouldn't be that expensive. I think we'd have great options but it's easy to say that
Carrick is more composed player and relying on his positioning instead of off ball movement which is not a problem for 33-35 years old player. But Vidal is different, Vidal is a box to box, requires energy and high stamina for his off ball movement, unfortunately when he turns 33 he might struggle to play for us and Schweinsteiger is one of the example.
Unless if he can take care his body and has natural fitness as good as Zanetti or Giggs then yes. However, I read an article said that he likes to drink which I don't think he can keep playing in a top level performance when he reaches 33 or above. This signing isn't worthy imo.
Add Bastian to that list and I wouldn't believe them if they are selling prime Robben.
He's much younger than I thought he was, only 31 come May, but I still wouldn't take him here anymore. The time for him to move to United was when he left Juventus for Bayern, right now it's a bit too late.
I don't know if I can do another Vidal saga.
Pogba is probably the fastest midfielder in the world. Fastest midfielder in all top 10 European Clubs anyway.
Bayern certainly wouldn't be letting Vidal go if they hadn't noticed a dip, just as they did with Bastian.
Strongly suspect Vidal has seen better days so for that reason I think we should be looking at other younger alternatives like Seri, Fabinho,Savic.
Strongly suspect Vidal has seen better days so for that reason I think we should be looking at other younger alternatives like Seri, Fabinho,Savic.
I'd much rather we go with someone who can be part of our midfield for the next 5-6 years (if not longer).
Top player, but do not want.
Top player, but do not want.
Don't want him. He'd turn up drunk driving his car into the middle of the pitch.
Think these rumors are simply based on us signing Sanchez, no truth to it.
Think these rumors are simply based on us signing Sanchez, no truth to it.
Vidal is the smoke screen he is like Moura then bang we get Sanchez. Vidal is he too old? is he past his best ?blah blah Blah then Bang welcome to Manchester Toni Kroos or Saul or someone like that . ED and Jose are Genius
Except Lucas is wank and Vidal is one of the best players in the world.
I take it you weren’t a fan of the Sanchez transfer then. Considering he’s roughly the same age as Vidal and will only be here for 3 seasons max.
This obsession with signing “youth prospects” is getting us nowhere. We done this with Depay, Lindelof, Shaw, etc. None of them have particularly worked out. Mourinho has always signed ready made players that guarantee trophies. Vidal is that guy.
True. He was world class two years ago is he now ? Or even more importantly will he be for the next 2 or 3 years.I'm Not so sure .
Is it just me that gets a derection when Inter Milan are linked with the same player that United are?
Yeah, it's not really the same is it. A midfielder is part of a spine and it would be great to get another one we can build with along with Pogba. It's not an ageist thing, it's a more long-term outlook. If a player like Savic is available, for instance, then I think he's far more preferable. I'm not saying we should sign some flavour of the month 19 year old. There are perspectives in between the extremes you know.
And since you mention players who haven't worked out, just to address that, Lindelof is too early to judge and what do you think about Martial? Would you rather have signed a 29 year old superstar? I wouldn't.
We've got a good blend of experience and younger players. I'm delighted with the Sanchez signing, since you mention it. Still think a 4 and a half year contract is a bit risky, but if that was a deal breaker, I'd have given him that contract.
This. Bayern are very good at getting rid of players they don't need and them being willing to sell Bastian to us should've been a warning sign that his best days were behind him. No doubt Vidal is the same. He would've been perfect in 2014 but with Matic already approaching 30 we don't need another over 30 midfielder otherwise we'll have to replace them both in 2/3 years time.
I'm not sure the reasoning of Vidal not being what he was anymore therefore he's not for us, fits. Why? Because what he was made him the best midfielder of his type in the world and the question then becomes: is the decline of one of the best midfielders on the planets' level above or below what we have here? Is a lesser Vidal better or worse than Felliani, Herrera and co? Does he raise the bar?
I think there's a resounding yes to all of those.
Another couple of questions: Can we do better than Vidal? And the most important question probably being: how much longer does he have left at an elite level?
The old Vidal thread was immense but it wasn't to be. I think the current version, with his alleged problems, is still a band or two above what we have here.
I think there's a resounding yes to all of those.
Another couple of questions: Can we do better than Vidal? And the most important question probably being: how much longer does he have left at an elite level?
The old Vidal thread was immense but it wasn't to be. I think the current version, with his alleged problems, is still a band or two above what we have here.
As much as I would have loved him here a few years ago, this is not the player we need at the moment. I still think he is an excellent player and brings a lot of energy to any side he is in - but the player we need is one to either partner with Matic in front of the back four to give Pogba the freedom he needs without causing massive gaps in our midfield. Or, we need a prototypical #6 to shield the back 4 with Pogba and Matic in front of that player.
Pogba's value to us is his creativity and ability to find pockets to get on the ball. However, in a midfield 2, that often leaves us vulnerable on the counter when we lose the ball. If we want Pogba to be his best then we need someone that will just sit in.
Pogba's value to us is his creativity and ability to find pockets to get on the ball. However, in a midfield 2, that often leaves us vulnerable on the counter when we lose the ball. If we want Pogba to be his best then we need someone that will just sit in.
The old Vidal thread was the first ever muppetry i have ever proper invested and engaged in. Stalking him in Chile on his holidays and his yacht, Chilevision, Xrays on his supposed injured knee and him returning to Turin airport for Juventus preseason training with that interview, great memories only to be let down by the end of it
I do not want to go through that again, that said i think the ship for him at United has sailed a long time ago
I do not want to go through that again, that said i think the ship for him at United has sailed a long time ago
One of my favourite players but the time to bring him in might have passed.
No thanks. He has some issues on and off the field. He still has some top games, but not getting wiser with age
His off the field antics worry me and we certainly don’t want someone being disruptive in our camp. Quality player from the times I’ve seen him but at 29 he’ll be looking for that last pay cheque and I can’t see us giving it him. I would probably give him a 2 year deal made up with loads of bonuses but don’t think he’ll want that especially if Chelsea come calling with a big fat contract. Depends how much he wants United and if Mourinho actually wants him.
He actually said we should have swapped Martial for Perisic so there's your answer
Never the same since the big injury he had while at Juve. Not worth it now.
It has more to do with Bayern signing Goretzka and not a dip in Vidal‘s form. He‘s having a good season btw!
Dcocks out.
Yeah, people were raving about us missing out on him.
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