You said fitness concerns, not injury.
You do surely know the difference here, right?
Arturo Vidal
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You do surely know the difference here, right?
Fitness concerns means injury doesnt it?
You mean the World Cup that Costa was absolute gash in?
Eeerm. No, it doesn't really. Not if you ask me.
With everyone fit, we'd also have the likes of Smalling, Valencia, Carrick, Mata, Van Persie, januzaj on the bench PLUS Fletcher, Fellanai and the kids.
More than strong enough to win the league this year as that's our only focus.
More than strong enough to win the league this year as that's our only focus.
Fitness concerns would be more like Costa for Spain or the CL final.
Falcao was injured, i.e. simply could not play any football.
How am I having to explain this to a grown man who follows football?
What the 3 games spain played where their entire team was gash? Or perhaps the previous season where Costa tore La Liga apart?
Erm defence?
With everyone fit, we'd also have the likes of Smalling, Valencia, Carrick, Mata, Van Persie, januzaj on the bench PLUS Fletcher, Fellanai and the kids.
More than strong enough to win the league this year as that's our only focus.
More than strong enough to win the league this year as that's our only focus.
As far as I remembered it was touch and go wasn;t it, didnt think it had ruled him out 100%?
If you add Vidal to the midfield it would become unbalanced again, he would have been a wonderful pre-Herrera signing, but now he would be in competition with Herrera in the same way Shinji was in competition with Mata.
------Blind------
Herrera---Di Maria
------Blind------
Herrera---Di Maria
You mean the same La Liga Falcao tore apart?
Stop talking nonsense. Falcao will do his talking on the pitch and I am pretty sure he will prove an excellent signing. As soon as United open the chequebook a lot of jealousy surfaces. You lot have spend ridiculously over the past few years, the majority of which has been not the clubs money but a Russian billionaire.
We have been rather quiet the past few years with the odd signing here and there. Now is our time to have the limelight...
Deal with it!
He ruled himself out.
It's also a ridiculous argument to attempt to use as a claim to Costa being the better player.
Their midfield is/was great, but Alonso and Modric are far away from DMs who protect you, so I don't think they allow him more freedom than Blind or Herrera, who are decent at defending and Blind is a prober DM, who can make that formation work like he would play as a 3rd CB. In a midfield diamond we can also play Mata and Rooney in their best positions, so I think that would be just work fine and Di Maria will be fantastic in this setup.
He played in a midfield 2 against Burnley, but that was really only because of injuries, with Herrera back and Blind arriving we have finally some options in midfield.
Vidal would still be great, can see him in the DM role against smaller teams (I think he is that good and played DM for Leverkusen and a sweeper-like role for Chile) and he can also move further forward against the big sides, Blind as a DM and Vidal instead of Herrera or instead of Di Maria, while Angel is playing on Mata's position behind Rooney and Falcao
Vidal is not an attacking midfielder.
This is not going to happen.
As soon as he got the injury he was ruled out of the world cup. He was never going to make it.
Blimey, they kept that one quiet. But good luck to 'em I say.
Falcao tore that same La liga apart.
Thanks for sharing your opinion with us.
Yeah .... Kinda bare there! Unless the 3 in ye middle gel like nothing seen before and stay injury free! Big IF and won't happen!
It's really like LVG has some master algorithm clicking in his head and he is cocksure once his 352 clicks, it will befuddle all comers into submission.
Hate to say it but is totally like Football Manager.
I'm literally dumbfounded by his arrogance to Waltz into our club, spend a month looking before sacking a dozen players and spending £200m!!
He clearly has a plan and is very confident in it ... Time will tell!
When they both played together Falcao was better, the only thing Costa has over him right now is his (supposed) age.
Deal with what? There is no jealousy from Chelseas point, were not Liverpool or Arsenal who are struggling in areas that United are signing in or even in competition with United in any way shape or form, its just because you are signing players and becoming a bit insufferable despite the fact you are as unbalanced as a vertigo sufferer standing at the top of the Burj Khalifa.
Vidal and Benatia and you could go as muppet and insufferable as you liked, because they would make you such a force
Dead in the water?
I honestly feel as if Juve do not want to sell him now. To be fair, they won't be able to find a fantastic replacement on the last day.
This was always going to be a tall order - and I'm sure we weren't going to sign him while he was injured. You can't blame the club for that. It's unfortunate that he's suddenly become match fit a couple of days before the deadline.
This was always going to be a tall order - and I'm sure we weren't going to sign him while he was injured. You can't blame the club for that. It's unfortunate that he's suddenly become match fit a couple of days before the deadline.
Agreed but that was 2 seasons ago pre injury and pre Monaco.
If you don't like it why do you read it.
He is for Chile.
More importantly, Vidal is whatever the feck he wants to be, and there's no stopping him, he'll be a box to box centre half if he fancies it.
The amount of forwards in our squad now means we'll be playing something like this i think, and need either Carvalho or De Jong imo. We couldn't ask Vidal to do this i don't think:
--------Vidal-----------
----Herrera-Mata-------
Di Maria----------Rooney
--------Falcao----------
--------Vidal-----------
----Herrera-Mata-------
Di Maria----------Rooney
--------Falcao----------
Worried that Woody will not have enough time to deal with the Blind/Falcao and the Welbeck/ Chicha transfers contracts ie. both in and out to work on the Vidal deal the same time. How many plates can he spin the same time?
Benatia's signed for Bayern, hasn't he?
Meh, it's a pointless argument to have. Nobody has a clue how he will get on and only time will tell. Just agree to disagree and one can come back for gloating rights in May.
Yeah Im talking in retrospect though, I was genuinely concerned when you were likely to sign Vidal and Benatia because of the lack of CL football helping you out. I can see you scoring more with Falcao but still conceding so many.
My thinking was along the lines....
Blind (defensive)
Di Maria (attacking)
Herrera (bit of both)
As a midfield 3 i think they offer a nice mix/balance!
I saw Vidal challenging (displacing) Herrera in that formation. But would you argue that Vidal would be more in competition (again no competition really) with Blind for the defensive role?
But which ever way you look at it! if Vidal arrives then it would be like signing a new player to play ahead of a new player. But if united have the money then i'm not against the idea as such.
If you come to this thread, the last thing you should be spouting is 'This is not going to happen' , this is beyond all those trivial assertions.
It only makes it worse that you are playing Cannon fodder next.
Seen a few of these now, where's RVP gone?
-----------De Gea
Rafael----Jones---Rojo---Shaw
----------Carrick(Blind/Vidal)
Herrera(Januzaj)--------Di Maria
---------Rooney(Mata)
-----RVP---------Falcao
You're not wrong, Costa has a better all round game but Falcao's finishing is better. He was never the quickest anyway.
Vidal will play instead of Blind or Herrera, depends on the opponent, but he is much superior than both, so it's a no brainer. Also don't forget that if one of Blind, DM, Herrera is or will be injured, we have to play Fletcher or Cleverley again. So the signing of Vidal would be still massive. And we are Manchester United, other teams have superb players on the bench, so I don't see a problem if the likes of Blind or Herrera are not first choice in every game. And I don't need to add that we have injury problems every year^^
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