With Mata as part of a flexible front three like LVG has employed with Holland with RVP/Robben/Wesley interchanging it'd still be a viable option for us.
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With Mata as part of a flexible front three like LVG has employed with Holland with RVP/Robben/Wesley interchanging it'd still be a viable option for us.
So this is where the muppets' come to die
Mata, Vidal and Herrera as a midfield three. Good god. It's sensational. A £110 million fix though. Wish our scouts would be able to identify these types of player before we have to shell out massive fees on them. Mata and Vidal were available a few years ago for a lot less and we were all baffled then as to why we weren't interested. But now with the state of our midfield we just have to spend...
I'd say just suck it up and spend the big bucks now for near guaranteed success (because lets be honest, our squad is in need of some serious investment), and then use intricate scouting and youth to reinforce the squad for the future.
I'm in the same boat... We can go troll them together like Double DragonJuventus is my 2nd club but I will happily spend time laughing at people on that forum if we sign Vidal. Might even sign up to troll them
Because it is an international forum, so most likely the majority of posters there aren't from Italy. I would guess that most of them aren't even fropm Europe considering that usually European people are fans of teams from their own country. So, the forum is a bit shit.
I always thought that in order for forum to be good, it should have a balance of fans from it's country (and of course the city of the team) and fans from other countries/continents. If all fans are from the country of the team then it becomes very t0p redish (see Red Issue), but if no fans are from that country it becomes very glory hunting (see Juve/Barca international forums). Forums o English teams have this balance perfectly considering that everyone speaks English, but for forums of non-English teams it is a bit more difficult. Most of Italians don't speak English, and most of non-Italians don't speak Italian which makes impossible to create a balanced Juve forum.
Vidal would instantly transform our midfield into a formidable force. That's the kind of player he is, an absolute beast of midfielder. Nothing like him in world football. His skills almost contradict each other -
A powerful tackler yet a sound dribbler.
Physically strong yet has great vision on the ball.
Aerial strong and yet beautifully two footed.
Hot-headed but has real composure when it counts.
He's the complete footballer.
A powerful tackler yet a sound dribbler.
Physically strong yet has great vision on the ball.
Aerial strong and yet beautifully two footed.
Hot-headed but has real composure when it counts.
He's the complete footballer.
I'm in the same boat... We can go troll them together like Double Dragon
Let's wait till rumours become concrete
£48m is a hell of a lot. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the club spending *that* sort of amount on one player, combined with the £60m we have already spent in the last ~week.
Juventus are one of those few clubs were fans are from everywhere apart from Turin. Even in Italy their biggest fan base lie in Southern regions of Italy.
He's arguably the best midfielder in the world at the moment.
You should write a headed letter to Ed Woodward and co sharing your concerns
For anyone worried about the price, Toure came to City at the same age Vidal is now but Vidal is better now than Toure was then and arguably now so to have someone as effective for us as Toure has been a City then £40m is worth every single penny.
It's not your money and good midfielders are scarce and in high demand. With the prices inflated due to the likes of City, Chelsea, Barca, Madrid, Monaco and PSG; anybody with a big reputation is going to command that sort of money I'm afraid.
More of a marketable thing to be honest.
Juventus truly became a big club when the Agnelli family took over back in 1923. The Agnelli family founded the Fiat company in Turin and wanted to give that impression that everything linked to them was successful. So they bought Juventus (who was a relatively small club) who was residing in Turin and made it successful.
The argument of whether Juventus should move out of Turin is over a century old and was still relevant just few years ago when Juventus were weighting their options on where to go after they decided to leave the Delle Alpi stadium
None. That was just made up twitter shite.
You should make a song out of that. ♫ ♬ We spend a lot of money, but it's okay because we earned it through sponsorship deals! ♫ ♬
Mark Ogden did a report on our transfer plans and this was in there:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ransfer-news-and-rumours-for-summer-2014.html
Sure. Will you sing it for me?
Hope we don't go for him and convinced we will not. We do not need him now that we have Herrera and these two together will not work well for us defensively unless we want to waste the qualities one or both of them and not play to their strength.
A static more defensive minded phtsical presence is now key after the Herrera purchase.
A static more defensive minded phtsical presence is now key after the Herrera purchase.
Why?
That could work also.
We will go for him if available, no doubt. I can't understand why so many people are saying he can't work with Herrera, as if they have a clue regarding LVG's plans.
Neither Herrera nor Vidal are weak defensively, they are box to box CMs who can defend. They can shield the defense if and when needed, so this whole argument that we will leave our defense exposed is ridiculous.
Neither Herrera nor Vidal are weak defensively, they are box to box CMs who can defend. They can shield the defense if and when needed, so this whole argument that we will leave our defense exposed is ridiculous.
Its strange there havent been more rumours linking him with City, surely he would be the ideal replacement for Toure?
City can't afford him with FFP.
Ah right. And there was me thinking that regulation was completely toothless.
Well, City seem to be taking it more seriously now than PSG. PSG seem to be trying to prove they can spend as much as they want and don't give a shit. I can't help but think the Luiz signing and cost was a statement of intent.
They can still spend about 40m or so, 50m if they offload somebody but they have more important needs (centre back!) first. If there was a chance at selling Toure to PSG for say 30m they should do it and put the money straight towards Vidal though if there was a good chance they could get him.
We must go all out for Vidal. If we get him then brilliant if not then there are secondary targets we could go after.
I've never really believed the club needs to - not should it - compete on a purely financial basis with the likes of City and PSG. Just because we *can* do something doesn't mean we need to.
There is no doubt that Vidal is quality and would improve our midfield drastically, just that it hasn't been our way to pack the team full of expensive stars in their peaks. I would be far happier seeing the club invest in top quality youngsters like Shaw.
Are you paying for it?
Pointless comparing players. Michael Owen was finished at 29, Robin Van Persie had his best season at that age.
Hilarious isn't it, one minute we need to break the bank, next we shouldn't spend that much.
Seems to me that a lot of fans are worried that if United spend stupid amounts they will be short for their mortgage or rent, and struggle to put food on their tables.
I was nosing through the gossip from this summer, and found that we were being linked with "£24m star Vidal", then £30m, £40m, now £48 million.
We should sign him now, then sell him for £600m next year.
We should sign him now, then sell him for £600m next year.
We invested in quality youngsters such as Nani, Anderson, Rafael, Jones and Smalling over the last few years. Obviously Anderson and Nani haven't quite worked out as we expected.
The problem is that we've lost a tonne of experience in Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand and Vidic. You can't replace that with youngsters. We need some experienced players at their peak and that costs top money.
The best way is to do both, and we've a history of operating that way.
Yes we bring though youth more than most and I love that about United, but the trick is to mix that with experience as well.
There's no reason whatsoever that we shouldn't throw money at a signing like this when it will transform the side. We can certainly afford to.
Whether it'll happen is another issue.
Though the ideal scenario is home grown academy players, followed by buying young players below 20 and investing in them early, Mata-Vidal etc are type of players club should not pass on especially when a) we can afford b) we actually desperately need the skills they bring to the team as the area where they operate have been our pain areas for long now.
I don't care what they pay, we are talking about one of the best midfielders in the world here. £48 million? Rat meet drain pipe.
Word. Vidal is a total all-rounder. His work-rate is unbelievable, and he's equally good at both attacking and defending. I'd say the same for Herrera from what I've seen too. I'd have no problem seeing them line up together.
How would Vidal's style of play be different from Herrera's? I always thought they played the same position?
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