We still haven't even placed a bid. I'm not sure how "on" this ever was.
Arturo Vidal
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We're not getting him. Move on.
Yeah it's seems like they suffer from some hive mind mentality. I think Italians are naturally paranoid when it comes to that kind of thing and when you look at their country and all the corruption that goes down over there you kind of get why.
Anyways, I wonder if Woody is trying to low ball them. I mean, they must have come to a decision regarding the severity of the knee issue and if the transfer was abandoned, you'd think Vidal would have made some form of statement to the press committing himself to the club by now. Reports in Italy said we've had an offer of €43m (£34m) rejected the other day. That seems quite low for a player of his stature in his prime. Might have been bollocks though.
Regarding the knee, I asked on that Juve forum and their fans told me it's nothing to worry about. Make of that what you will. Apparently he did very well and put in his usual kind of all-action display in the 45 minutes that he played in a friendly. All that covering up his knee for the cameras strikes me as a bit odd though.
What am I doing to myself, only four more days of this shite and I can go back to living my normal life.
What does that say?
During Chicharito discussions United & Juve have talked about Vidal [GDS] http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/during-chicharito-discussions-man-united-juve-have-talked-about-arturo-vidal-gazzetta-dello-sport/… Via @OmldZamani
Only the Gazetta saying there have been talks regarding Vidal in the background of Chicharito negotiations.
It also says Vidal is likely to start the season opener against Chievo on Saturday.
It's not impossible that we want him to play tomorrow, will have someone assess his knee after he's played 70+ minutes on it and make a decision then...
If that breaks the deal, we'll lump the money on the table for Carvalho.
If that breaks the deal, we'll lump the money on the table for Carvalho.
Yet apparently he's unfit and training separately from the squad?
Muppets don't forget
Call me whatever you want
... doesn't change Pexbo's horrible revisionist history.
They are made for each other.
Call me whatever you want
Another one that took it all a bit too seriously. I'd already said I'd leave if this doesn't go through (unless it's his knee that caused the deal not to happen. Prove it's not the knee that breaks the deal and I'll leave the forum) so I was having some fun trying to get others to do the same. It's the transfer forum for god sake man, lighten up. 99% of people on here got the joke, let it go before you embarrass yourself.
They are made for each other.
Swap the two images around and Di Maria looks like he is a Vidal fan who just cannot handle the fact Vidal is making a sign to him right now.
Wow, we have talked about Vidal?^^
If we ask them "Can we sign him?" and they are answered: "No, feck off." Then we have also talked about him, right? Doesn't mean much, would be shocked now, if we still sign him, looks off for me
If we ask them "Can we sign him?" and they are answered: "No, feck off." Then we have also talked about him, right? Doesn't mean much, would be shocked now, if we still sign him, looks off for me
Di Maria is fantastic, but this is the one I really wanted to happen.
I have read it sooo much on this forum people saying we haven't even bid for him, they don't realize we don't operate this way, the way we do is we usually talk to the players through agent first and ask about how much interested the player is joining the club, although it could be termed as tapping up but that's how its done these days, then we would talk to the club, and how much they want for the player, and then try to negotiate and then when we usually bid its the price actually been agreed, so it will only be a matter of time before they accept the offer and then other things are mere formalities. So calm down i am not saying its happening but i would be not down to not making a bid.
The people who have said we've never placed a bid are the same people saying we've been bidding all summer, or at least "preparing a bid", whatever that means. I really think all the journos are clueless and none of the information - pointing to it being on or off - has been reliable at all. There's obviously been interest from us for all the rumors to have come from, but how far its gone i really think no one except United staff, Juve staff and Vidal himself knows. It will go down to deadline day, no confirmation will happen either way until then. I agree now it looks unlikely, but still all our other transfers have happened quickly after they broke news.
It's not over yet. We've signed massive players on the last day before. Rooney, Berbatov...
True.
Whats more, people on here seem to have this strange notion that a bid is some sort of clearly and officially demarcated, and (more relevantly) public and transparent part of a transfer. Like unless there is some sort of official statement on both club's websites giving details of a bid, then neither club has negotiated a fee.
The concept of an "official bid" is pretty much meaningless. All you ever hear about a transfer before it happens are reports of varying strength about what a club may be offering. There is no way of knowing whether United have "bid" or not for Vidal, but I find it pretty unlikely that our people haven't discussed prices with Juve's people.
The fact we are clearing out Kagawa and Cleverley is to make room for new players. I am certain Vidal is coming, I just have a feeling.
I won't be too upset if he ends up staying, but I hope we atleast try/have tried.
I won't be too upset if he ends up staying, but I hope we atleast try/have tried.
Fellani...
He's only small if you take his wig off.
Fletcher, Anderson
Currently injured: Carrick, Fellaini, Herrera
I refuse to believe that we're not finalising something.
Yep. A public bid is most often the last thing in a transfer. It's funny to read people chucking their toys out the pram when articles are written about how United haven't submitted a bid yet for Vidal.
Interesting, anybody know if it is the same cruciate ligament that Vidal has?
If medical staff are advising LVG to not the the chance on Vidal, I will agree with them while crying my eyes out.
The footballing equivalent of a test drive this. Comes through 60/70 minutes ok and we seal the deal
As opposed to chucking their toys out last year when we did make our bids for players public.
Well, there's only one solution, don't bid at all and wait for the player to approach us. Be strong and sexy, don't whore yourself out Ed!
There can be confirmation of how much the transfer fee is privately between clubs. Last year United chose to make that info public. I think the chucking toys out last year was because the transfers never materialised. People were muppeting when Moyes confirmed the Fabregas bids.
And if the media is to be believed about Welbeck too we'll be saving £225k a week from the 3 players, 2 of which are excess (Kagawa as a #10 and Welbeck as a striker and spot filled by Wilson) and Cleverly's spot (and number!) being replaced by Vidal. Good business all round.
Kagawa - 8m
Welbeck - 18m
Cleverly - 8m
£34m towards Vidal (£34 plus Chich should do it)
Surely we must be, the two fit have to be one of the worst midfield combinations in European football. I'm sure Herrera will be back after international break. The other two long term by all accounts and I know Di Maria played in midfield last season but still I'd be worried.
Meniscus tear I'm sure he had. Read below for more info.
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/meniscus-tear-topic-overview
Either that or he's going into full Ajax mode and we're gonna play Powell, Pearson, Rothwell, Pereira, etc.
Even if Man utd bid for Vidal, Juve would say no because of the time left to replace him. Vidal would have no choice but to stay because he will not hand in a transfer request. That will be the story of that. That is why LVG said "Players want to come but clubs don't want them to leave"
Di Maria as well. The injured players will not be injured forever. And, we could still cancel Cleverley's transfer.
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