The benefit of having Vidal is that he's played 3-5-2 at Juve, that's the standard formation. He's also a leader on the pitch, someone who will take responsibility and bollock players when required. I actually think he'd help LvG significantly.
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The benefit of having Vidal is that he's played 3-5-2 at Juve, that's the standard formation. He's also a leader on the pitch, someone who will take responsibility and bollock players when required. I actually think he'd help LvG significantly.
No because in that system Mata would be the teams number 10, and Rooney can play that role as well.
Di Maria is best as used as a midfielder as well, obviously he can play on the wings but he was exceptional as part of a midfield three and considering the fee we paid for him he should be used that way. If that's the case we would have Carvalho, Di Maria, Vidal, Mata, Herrera.. And some are suggesting Stootman on top of that.
Metro seem as sure as ever that this is on, but i guess I shouldn't be giving them the time of day really.
I don't think he'd be the end of our woes. But with him and the other recent signings we could comfortably play a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 formation and actually have an intimidating line-up. One thing that's been said over and over by pundits is that when you're in the opposing team's dressing room and you see United's team sheet, it just isn't scary any more. You can see we have talent up front, but there's an obvious lack of it almost everywhere else. But now we have Di Maria that's changed, and sticking Vidal in there is another name that would get oppositions shifting in their seats a little. I think if we were to get this guy, our other signings become available and swap to a more positive formation we'd see a huge change.
I don't think he'd be the end of our woes. But with him and the other recent signings we could comfortably play a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 formation and actually have an intimidating line-up. One thing that's been said over and over by pundits is that when you're in the opposing team's dressing room and you see United's team sheet, it just isn't scary any more. You can see we have talent up front, but there's an obvious lack of it almost everywhere else. But now we have Di Maria that's changed, and sticking Vidal in there is another name that would get oppositions shifting in their seats a little. I think if we were to get this guy, our other signings become available and swap to a more positive formation we'd see a huge change.
Latest pm from my itk newbie... I'm not sure where the meerkat comes into it, but no 2 is a pretty serious allegation:
1 Vidal - Juventu prohibits interviews (not answer questions mercat) for 2 days.
2 Agnelli and Marotta are today in Monaco. Fixed match with Monaco and real (Perez)
3 Guarin does not replace vidal. Guarin has also offered by russia
1 Vidal - Juventu prohibits interviews (not answer questions mercat) for 2 days.
2 Agnelli and Marotta are today in Monaco. Fixed match with Monaco and real (Perez)
3 Guarin does not replace vidal. Guarin has also offered by russia
A Carvalho/Vidal double signing would take us to another level.
Rafael is almost pointless in these line ups, he's never fit.
He'll join Real won't he
We need to stick with it imo. The problem we have is our midfield options, not the formation.
If Alonso leaves, Vidal is the only decent CM left on the market. The only thing that gives me hope however is that he's a bit too old for Real.
A Carvalho/Vidal double signing would take us to another level.
I actually think that would be our best team, if we didn't get Vidal then Januzaj taking his place (I think I'd actually prefer that and to get a top class CB instead of Jones and a replacement for Rafa who's constantly injured with the Vidal money instead, controversial I know).
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Neither is 90% of our defence but i'm picking it obviously based on them all being fit.
But that never happens. We always have injuries annoyingly.
fecking Bayern and their Alonso deal. Another reason to dislike them
Almost certainly
Daily reminder that the Di Maria money we gave them will be used to snatch Vidal away from us.
I disagree. Not with the notion that our midfield options are poor, but I also feel that the formation is weakening us both offensively and defensively.
The team is crying out for pace and penetration up top, and we have none without Welbeck in the team.
The back 5 seems more of a back 3 more often than not too, with our centre-halves basically at full-back.
People talk about Madrid not picking players based on trying to fit a team and simply being pre-occupied with names, but I think our insistence on playing Rooney/Mata/Persie is hurting us. We need a formation that allows us a direct threat in attack.
I really hope Falcao moves to Madrid today. So that will be their non eu players covered.
Dont know they signed Alonso when he was 27/28 in 2009.
That's 5 years ago mate!
They've been signing young talent for ages now. Which is a decent policy because they know when they get bored of them in 2/3 years they can sell them on for a decent price still.
Love the positivity, I'm not gonna make a mock line up and remove players based on their injury record. May as well leave Vidal out too cause he has a sore knee.
Making a formation with Young and Valencia and we'll be closer to the truth.
Please don't try and drag me down. I'm in a good mood football wise today. I'd like it to stay that way.
I like 3-5-2 myself. It fits with our passing game, the problem is that our players aren't comfortable with it and we don't have a central midfield capable of playing it well. I also don't think we'll persist with playing Rooney/RvP week after week. Although we might have too if we sell Welbeck and Hernandez.
Anyway, this is a different topic!
We gave Valencia a new contract, Fellaini is too costly to sell... I'm sorry but
To think in just a few days this will all be over and we can properly get on with our season. We can all take a well deserved four month break from this forum and concentrate on football.
Gon be good.
Gon be good.
Well Falcao is not exactly a teenager and seems they want him.
That's true, but they might temper that approach for somebody like Vidal.That's 5 years ago mate!
They've been signing young talent for ages now. Which is a decent policy because they know when they get bored of them in 2/3 years they can sell them on for a decent price still.
A Carvalho/Vidal double signing would take us to another level.
Now that's a PL winning team....
We gave Valencia a new contract, Fellaini is too costly to sell... I'm sorry but
What do they have to do with signing 2 cm's anyway. Valencia and Fellaini should be kept for backup. Sell Hernandez, Cleverley, Ando, Kagawa (for his sake). Free up funds and wages.
Hoping Vidal is secretly sorted at €50m and we've agreed to delay the announcement to allow Juve time to go in for Guarin or Rabiot for realistic money before the selling clubs get wind that they're recently minted. Player and manager both making positive noises and the club have always said €50m is the bottom line … so we should just pay it and move on to bringing Verane in!
PS: First post here in the mains and I thought 201 pages for this thread in the Newbs was crazy
PS: First post here in the mains and I thought 201 pages for this thread in the Newbs was crazy
Real Madrid rumoured to be after Vidal.
Maybe he is thinking I can play and train with Modric, Kroos and Rodriquez in Madrid or play and train with TC23, Fellaini, Fletcher and Anderson in Manchester.
Maybe he is thinking I can play and train with Modric, Kroos and Rodriquez in Madrid or play and train with TC23, Fellaini, Fletcher and Anderson in Manchester.
Hoping Vidal is secretly sorted at €50m and we've agreed to delay the announcement to allow Juve time to go in for Guarin or Rabiot for realistic money before the selling clubs get wind that they're recently minted. Player and manager both making positive noises and the club have always said €50m is the bottom line … so we should just pay it and move on to bringing Verane in!
PS: First post here in the mains and I thought 201 pages for this thread in the Newbs was crazy
We're just clear of the half way point.
Only realised now that you're back, welcome back fellow Vidal leader muppet. Now let's get this one wrapped up and sealed
1200 posts??? … build it and he will come!
Think this is a sign that we're backing out of the deal as British media have stated. He is not fit yet after 2 and a half months from the end of the world cup it is extremely risky to bring him in.
They can't really drop Modric, Kroos, Ronaldo or Bale. Signing Vidal would mean dropping Rodriguez who they spent £60m+ on or dropping Benzema and playing without a recognised striker. Not sure I see him going there to be honest. Think they may try spending on Falcao instead..
@Pexbo you still think this is on?
Welcome.Hoping Vidal is secretly sorted at €50m and we've agreed to delay the announcement to allow Juve time to go in for Guarin or Rabiot for realistic money before the selling clubs get wind that they're recently minted. Player and manager both making positive noises and the club have always said €50m is the bottom line … so we should just pay it and move on to bringing Verane in!
PS: First post here in the mains and I thought 201 pages for this thread in the Newbs was crazy
I'd say that's unlikely. That rumour has been going since early summer but there's no way we'd let it run this long. We're either not after him or we're delaying either to assess his fitness or try to get a better deal. If it's the latter I suspect that we've both misjudged the situation and shot ourselves in the foot with our results which I make it apparent how desperate we are. I really can't see us being able to put together a deal like this one in the time that's left, even if he is fit.
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