Arturo Vidal

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Post it up then. And no sneaky editing of the moment he says yeah at the start of his response to the question "is Vidal one of the players?".
Alright, I'll see if I can get it up. You're really sticking to this saying "yeah" and smiling? You sure you don't want to change that. I'm giving you an out here.
 
He clearly wants to join. He is clearly available. It's a no brainer. He should be signed already.

It's all just part of the plan, sure they will be expecting our bid as soon as they r
Alright, I'll see if I can get it up. You're really sticking to this saying "yeah" and smiling? You sure you don't want to change that. I'm giving you an out here.

He says hear, not yeah.
 
Is there a reason why the Vidal thread doesn't come up on the front page, or it is just for me?
 
It sounds like it! United must have been in touch with him if he keeps refusing to put the rumours to bed! Surely he'd take the hint that we're not interested if we haven't got in touch yet!
My take on this is we inquired earlier in the summer but haven't followed that up. But then again Vidal has commented a few times so it's all up in the air it would seem. Would absolutely love to get him though.
 
Even for this thread's standards, we're over-analysing LVG's words. That yeah at the start is obviously meaningless because of what he follows it up with.

The fact he doesn't deny it is good enough for me :drool:
 
Clearly says hear, not yeah, but I think the main point is that he doesn't kill the rumour.
It's a bloody massive difference between him replying "yeah" and smiling when asked whether Vidal was one of the players he wants, and what really went down!
 
Eh? He does say yeah, not hear. The only thing is he's not answering the question when he's saying yeah, he's actually just acknowledging the question before telling the journo where to go stick it. And he doesn't smile either.
 
It's a bloody massive difference between him replying "yeah" and smiling when asked whether Vidal was one of the players he wants, and what what really went down!

Of course, I wasn't involved in your earlier tiff over this, just saying that he says here, and that he didn't take the opportunity to dismiss the rumor when it was there on plate for him.

Nothing more.
 
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Of course I wasn't involved in your earlier tiff over this, just saying that he says hear, and that he didn't take the opportunity to dismiss the rumor when it was there on plate for him.

Nothing more.
It wasnt a tiff, it was a glorious putdown of a WUM ;)

I'd be surprised if United weren't interested in Vidal. But again I don't see this as changing anything. It seemed to me that Van Gaal was just responding with a general " I discuss transfers with the chairman, not journos". If he gives specific yes/no answers to whether he wants a specific player then he'll be plagued with such questions.

It was very rare that Fergie said he wasn't interested in a player when asked. He was asked a zillion times, and I can only think of a few instances, usually when they were mediocre players like Jermaine Defoe. He'd usually fob the journos off with a " youse will be the last to know" type of response. There's little value in saying you don't rate a player.
 
Eh? He does say yeah, not hear. The only thing is he's not answering the question when he's saying yeah, he's actually just acknowledging the question before telling the journo where to go stick it. And he doesn't smile either.
He often says 'yeah' before giving an answer I've noticed.
 
Here I can discuss it with you but I don't do that....and I discuss it with...errr Ed Woodward.

That's a definite positive for me.
 
Clearly says hear, not yeah, but I think the main point is that he doesn't kill the rumour.

I think that's the main thing. There's been so many opportunities for either us or Vidal to shut this thing down, yet neither has done that. There's clearly some movement behind the scenes, it may not come off, but it does give us muppets some hope :D
 
That's not really conclusive, but I would say it's better than moyes "we are always interested in the best players" or fergies "no value in the market".

He has not denied it and purely says it's down to me and the CEO. He had the opportunity to say ha rubbish, but yet again no denial from the club or the player.

I'm confident it's going to happen, but patience over his knee will be key I feel.
 
LVG saying he will speak to Ed Woodward about things and also saying he feels United are lacking "top level" players, plus saying it only takes 24 hours to sign a player. Wow. That's enough to send this place in to meltdown.

On a side note. Congrats to you guys, you take transfer muppetry to a whole new level, the newbies is tame in comparison. Keep up the good work :D
 
I'm going to ask a really stupid question now, but I'm going to ask anyway.

Who here would take losing to Swansea tomorrow just to sign Vidal?

Me asking that question does not reflect my answer. I'm just curious.
 
I'm going to ask a really stupid question now, but I'm going to ask anyway.

Who here would take losing to Swansea tomorrow just to sign Vidal?

Me asking that question does not reflect my answer. I'm just curious.
You should put up a poll. It would accurately gauge the moron ratio on the forum. Because anyone say they would want a loss would be a moron.
 
I think at this point if he had no interest in Vidal he'd have just said that. No need to leave it open like that unless he's interested imo.
 
I think at this point if he had no interest in Vidal he'd have just said that. No need to leave it open like that unless he's interested imo.

It would set a precedent to our transfer dealings in the future. If we claim we are not interested in Vidal openly, we will have to be open in the future as well since anything other than a clear 'No' would signify our interest in the player in the future. That was one of the prime reasons for our lack of transparency under Ferguson. Just don't say anything until the player is signed. Ed has a lot to learn in this regard and hopefully he gets that with experience.
 
For LVGs answer - was he asked about transfers in general or Vidal specifically? I have seen both suggested in the press.
 
He often says 'yeah' before giving an answer I've noticed.

It's very common with native Dutch speakers when talking in English, I've come to the conclusion they do it to give themselves a second to sort out the English words in their head.
 
The former Bayer Leverkusen star has yet to fully commit himself to his current employes,
and Van Gaal will act quickly to take advantage before the Chile international gets cold feet and opts to stay in Italy.

More crap from the Express.
 
The express, star, mirror and metro have really proven beyond all doubt how utterly shite they are this summer.

Obviously they've always been full of drivel written by idiot hacks, but this summer every single article from them seems to be rooted in idiocy. It's like they're all on a crusade to prove that they have no credibility and no sources.
 
Obviously they don't speak to each other in English, but I'd assume there's an Italian equivalent to "mister" that's disrespectful also. If not, then clearly it's been translated that way to further the speculation, which would come under the "assuming the're not fabricated" category.

While he's at Juve, he should either keep quiet or he should just say he's happy at Juventus. Your response is ridiculous, obviously I meant it was disrespectful to Juventus because he's discussing the transfer. How exactly would saying "Get me the feck out of Juve and to Manchester United NOW!" be respectful to Juventus?

"Mister" is how you address your manager in Italy if you want to be very respectful.
 
I'm going to ask a really stupid question now, but I'm going to ask anyway.

Who here would take losing to Swansea tomorrow just to sign Vidal?

Me asking that question does not reflect my answer. I'm just curious.
I know muppetry can get to people but who wants there team to lose is beyond me.

This was asked a few times last season but things like "would you take a heavy defeat to Liverpool in order for Moyes to get sacked?" I still said no, I want UTD to win all games every game.

But I won't blame muppets for saying they'd take Vidal cos muppetry can effect different people in a different way.

Have a good day.
 
I know muppetry can get to people but who wants there team to lose is beyond me.

This was asked a few times last season but things like "would you take a heavy defeat to Liverpool in order for Moyes to get sacked?" I still said no, I want UTD to win all games every game.

But I won't blame muppets for saying they'd take Vidal cos muppetry can effect different people in a different way.

Have a good day.

In both hypothetical situations the short-term option of winning one game results in the least wins for your team long term, in my opinion.

Long term we're better off sacking Moyes if that means losing to Liverpool. Long term we're better off signing Vidal if that means losing to Swansea. Can anyone dispute that?

The Muppet option just so happens to be the pragmatic one too. It's WIN WIN :)
 
But you don't want us to sign anyone do you?
I've said I want Rojo at the very least, but whatever floats your boat. Mainly I want us to get on with the football and not the speculation. Some 'fans' talking about brining Woodward Out banners to the game FFS.
 
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In both hypothetical situations the short-term option of winning one game results in the least wins for your team long term, in my opinion.

Long term we're better off sacking Moyes if that means losing to Liverpool. Long term we're better off signing Vidal if that means losing to Swansea. Can anyone dispute that?

The Muppet option just so happens to be the pragmatic one too. It's WIN WIN :)
The psychological damage if losing today will be immense. It would destroy any new confidence the players have, and the aura that VG has brought of a fresh start.

So any muppet who would think that a loss today wouid be good because it would spur Woodward into action should get a slap.
 
The psychological damage if losing today will be immense. It would destroy any new confidence the players have, and the aura that VG has brought of a fresh start.

So any muppet who would think that a loss today wouid be good because it would spur Woodward into action should get a slap.
Doubly so because even if we did lose today, i seriously doubt we would make any market moves which would be different from what we would do if we won resoundingly.
 
That's not the deal though. It's a hypothetical where the Muppets are guaranteed Vidal if we lose!

You'd be mental to think a loss today could somehow be good for the club. Nobody thinks that, right?
 
Doubly so because even if we did lose today, i seriously doubt we would make any market moves which would be different from what we would do if we won resoundingly.
Absolutely. But signings like Vidal would recast as 'panic buys' by the media as well. Rather than looking like the club making a 'statement', a concept much beloved by muppets, it would look like desperation.

It's just not worth thinking about. So let's just hope the match goes ok. Late signings will be whatever they will be.
 
That's not the deal though. It's a hypothetical where the Muppets are guaranteed Vidal if we lose!

You'd be mental to think a loss today could somehow be good for the club. Nobody thinks that, right?
A muppets heart works in mysterious ways. Even a women is simpler by comparison!
 
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