Has he gone back to Chile from Brazil or is he in Europe?
Arturo Vidal
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While I agree on LvG's stance, I do feel the United board feel they have a point to make too. The club's been accused of both dithering and lacking ambition when it comes to the transfer market, I'm pretty sure Woody is keen to quash those perceptions as well selling more season tickets by making a bold, marquee signing. Naturally it should be one which LvG believes is integral to his setup, which is why I think Vidal's name is being branded about since he satisfies both criteria:
- A LvG kind of player
- A fan's muppet dream signing
Well they brought in a tough cookie with VG who wouldn't mind leaving or show his concerns if the club doesn't back him up financially.
The Muppet love in for Vidal is incredible and a little over the top in my opinion. I just can't see this happening, Van Gaal loves Strootman and will probably go for him when fit. More chance of an attacker and Defender in this window I think.
No harm getting both to be honest
That's your choice.
United needed a left back - and they signed the most promising England left back in the country. Yes he's young, but it should prove money well spent if he fulfils his potential. Sadly you overpay for English players, that's just the way it is.
I agree with that summary.
Fellaini was silly money, but last summer was stupid altogether. Woody did badly there no doubt. Mata and Herrera I agree with your stance on those transfers, they're expensive but it's difficult to imagine clubs in our position getting them any cheaper. As for Shaw, he's ridiculously overpriced, but that's more due to the stupid premium on 'promising English youngsters' and hasn't got much to do with Woodward's work.
I agree and I'd like to add on that we're asking any new signings to trust us to be back in international business next year. Herrera would've been playing CL, Shaw definitely could've found a club in the CL. I think we don't have much of a choice other than to also "persuade" them on a monetary level...
Has there actually been anything yet more than a few ITK Twitter accounts angling for followers and some wishful thinking among the ranks of Caf muppetry?
It's tongue in cheek obviously. The man seemed inept earlier in his tenure and now he is getting things done, as is expected in his job. To clear things up, no matter who we sign, I don't want a statue of a CEO outside Old Trafford.
Aye, LVG's comment's about him and a few unreliable newspaper backpages. In other words, shit all
If there is it won't be for another day or too since Chile just exited the world cup.
James Ducker (Times) said we're monitoring his situation a couple of days ago...
Ducker's been accurate so far this window, too.
Well, Chelsea offered a 21 year old Hazard 170 k, so 70 k more than what we offered Shaw. It happens!
Any evidence to support that's the wage Hazard is on?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...lding-grows-with-78m-Eden-Hazard-signing.html
and others, it was as uniersally reported as us offering 100 k to Shaw!
According to the Telegraph ye made a late bid for him.
Been reported in the Italian press quite a bit, though the sources aren't hugely reliable.
I don't think we did. Because all things equal, he'd have picked us over United. We were never in for Shaw, in fact, no other club was. This is not a knock on United, you clearly wanted him and felt he was worth the gamble. Other clubs had different priorities and weren't prepared to spend that much on Luke. Only time will tell if he was worth the money.
Talk was when he signed that his parents preferred Utd to other suitors. Something about them being more stable or something.
Don't really give a shite myself, just glad to have him and happy that £27m will look like money well spent in the long run.
There is no way we are paying Luke Shaw £100k a week.
Considering the stick Chelsea fans gave a few posters on here when they said that Mourinho would have chosen us over you lot, this is pretty hypocritical.
I don't know, but it was reported by a lot of papers, in the same way Chelsea's 170 k for Hazard was reported.
A 21 year old who had just won UNFP Player of the Year for the second year running (the first year becoming the youngest ever winner) and been on the radar of every large club in the world.
Don't get me wrong, I love Luke Shaw and I wish we'd signed him, but he's only 18 and it's a huge wage for that age. Good luck to you guys with him though, England could use a new Ashley Cole.
Each case should be judged on its own merits.
I believe Shaw would have picked us because he is a lifelong CFC fan, and if offered the same contract, it's quite logical to assume he'd rather play for Chelsea than United. Had it been the other way around, I'd have no problem admitting the player would have preferred to sign for MU.
Mourinho may have picked United over Chelsea, but I don't think he would have, and it has nothing to do with hypocrisy on my part. I just think he'd have picked CFC for two reasons. First is his prior affiliation with the club, the players, the fans and even the owner, with whom he continued to have a good relationship all along. He will always be a Chelsea legend, the best manager to ever work in the club and that will not change. Taking over at United was not a viable choice in that respect, because Mourinho wouldn't want to live in SAF's shadow and be constantly compared to him. Every manager that comes to United post Ferguson would always be compared to him, and this is a competition no manager can win, no matter how good he is. Jose has a huge ego, just like SAF, and he wants to build his own legacy, his huge ego demands it.
Why is that hypocritical? Luke Shaw is a childhood Chelsea fan, so it's natural we'd think he'd have chosen us first. Then again we should remember who John Terry supported as a kid I suppose.
I think most teenagers would think twice about joining Chelsea given your shocking record with young players since the takeover.Why is that hypocritical? Luke Shaw is a childhood Chelsea fan, so it's natural we'd think he'd have chosen us first. Then again we should remember who John Terry supported as a kid I suppose.
No its not, there'se tonnes of players who rejected their boyhood club to go to somewhere better for their career.
Why is that hypocritical? Luke Shaw is a childhood Chelsea fan, so it's natural we'd think he'd have chosen us first. Then again we should remember who John Terry supported as a kid I suppose.
There's plenty more examples too.
The Telegraph said that Chelsea did come in for him though, and if they did, is it not fair to assume that they'd offer a similar, if not better contract? I don't know, saying that he'd of chosen you guys just because he supported you as a kid is flawed. The modern game just doesn't work that way anymore. Shaw obviously sees United as a better place for him to develop as a player, over Chelsea who are known for anything but giving young players a chance.
Please buy. Please buy. Lol.
Considering we keep buying many of Europe's most promising youngsters, you'd be wrong.
Telegraph said Chelsea made a late bid for Shaw. Yet he still chose United. It's really not that surprising for a player to choose another club over his boyhood club. John Terry and Raheem Sterling were United fans and Chris Smalling is an Arsenal fan.
But this should be taken to the Shaw thread.
You buy them and loan to Vitesse. You don't bring them through to your first team.
But this should be taken to the Shaw thread.
I agree with most of your post except the bit about Rio. He was a sure thing when we signed him for a record fee for a defender, already proven both domestically and internationally. Shaw is a bit more risky, I'm not too fussed about the initial fee, rather the wage packet. I'd say the real bottom line is that Manchester United have to overspend on players. Everyone knows we're minted. Say what you want about the debt we have a 76,000 seat stadium and a worldwide commercial presence. I'm afraid the days of United signing bargains like Chicharito, Evra and Vidic are going to be a thing of the past.
And you've got such a great record with getting them into the first team. It'll catch up with you eventually, if it hasn't already.
This is the Vidal thread not the Shaw thread, muppetry only!
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