Which is totally what I said.
I'm saying its a risk to pay so much for a player who could potentially not settle in. Plenty of playings coming from Serie A have failed in the Premier League.
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Which is totally what I said.
I'm saying its a risk to pay so much for a player who could potentially not settle in. Plenty of playings coming from Serie A have failed in the Premier League.
I doubt Juventus want Anderson.
Fair enough, it makes sense when you put it like that. Thing is I think you'd find a buy for Hernandez quite easily and I'm sure some Turkish club would want Nani.
Hey, if a Turkish club was interested in potentially appointing Moyes, then I'm sure they'd be interested in Nani.I doubt Juventus want Anderson.
Fair enough, it makes sense when you put it like that. Thing is I think you'd find a buy for Hernandez quite easily and I'm sure some Turkish club would want Nani.
I doubt Juventus want Anderson.
Fair enough, it makes sense when you put it like that. Thing is I think you'd find a buy for Hernandez quite easily and I'm sure some Turkish club would want Nani.
Problem is that there's no serious reports for anybody coming for them though. Nani would have to cut his wages even for those Turkish clubs I imagine and I wouldn't sell Chicharito to our rivals in PL. Given our selling history, we'd probably end up selling him for penauts too.
Are you sure you're not edwudwudwud in disguise?
Don't care about the amount of cash but I do care about the players leaving. Even though swap deals are unlikely if this is true I would much prefer not to see the back of Hernandez and to a lesser extent Nani
Urgh, that phrase.
Look at the 10, even 20 bigggest transfers in history. How many of those players were "proven" in the leagues they were going to? Plus those players' value over estimated in my opinion, I can imagine Hernandez is valued more at £12-15 million after a pretty unforgettable last season, and Nani is worth more like £7 million, but I agree that we shouldn't be adding two players to this deal, it should be just Nani to make the deal worth around £45 million.
Don't forget that he's not italian though and has got the physicality and speed required to cope with the Premier League
Imo both players are not worth anything like that. Hernandez is probably around 10 million euros and for Nani we should be happy with any millions we got. Hernandez isn't even a starter for Mexico anymore, I like him, but he is the typical striker who doesn't go for a big fee in the modern game (good in the box, bad in everything else). Mario Gomez scored for fun at Bayern and went for a low fee to Florenz, because nobody else wanted him and coaches like van Gaal prefered/prefer the likes of Olic and Mandzukic, like we prefered/prefer Welbeck, who won't score as many goals, but is more complete.
In the case of Nani I am just happy if we don't have to pay him big wages anymore. Our squad is still too big and if those sells are necessary to get Vidal, I would do it.
Vidal is also not the typical Serie A player, he was already fantastic in the Bundesliga too and is the pretty perfect player type for the PL, I think only injures can stop him to be a huge success in the PL.
If they want Nani and Hernandez, then the money we pay should not be more than 25-27M pounds, whatever happens. It will be utter stupidity to pay them an amount which will put his valuation more than 60MP. It is crazy.
Ya, we need a midfielder, doesn't mean other club will quote whatever they want. In such case, they can keep a player who had his heart set on move and deal with the situation. We can go for some stop gap arrangement. It won't be ideal but being hold to ransom will send wrong signals and will harm club in long run too.
Ya, we need a midfielder, doesn't mean other club will quote whatever they want. In such case, they can keep a player who had his heart set on move and deal with the situation. We can go for some stop gap arrangement. It won't be ideal but being hold to ransom will send wrong signals and will harm club in long run too.
I hate the premier league proven cliche too.
I know, like the PL is the benchmark for every player to prove themselves. Ronaldo is not a worry as he's proven in the PL, but Messi, not sure on him as he's not proved himself here.
I agree with @Kostur get rid of deadwood and get Vidal for £40 million.
Nani and Hernandez are unlikely to get games and LVG wants a smaller squad.
don't really see the issue.
Nani and Hernandez are unlikely to get games and LVG wants a smaller squad.
don't really see the issue.
Not even what I was saying but ok.
Signing a player outside the league has a risk. Soldado was one of the best strikers in the Liga BBVA yet flopped horribly for us. Lamela was the biggest young talent in the Italian league but had a difficult season. These are just players at my own club, there's tons of examples.
Sometimes players don't adapt to the different playing style and paying upwards of 60m you need to assess the risk. With his injury concerns and the fact he's never been in the Premier League, there is a chance he could fail to live up to expectations. Obviously he's good enough for the league, just like Soldado and Lamela are, but he could fail to settle in.
Hernandez needs to go anyway. He's not good enough to play regularly here and we might as well cash in on him before the rest of the footballing world cotton on to this fact. Nani's career has stagnated and needs freshening up. If him leaving enables Vidal to come here, I'm more than happy to see it happen. If Juventus want a further £25-30 million on top of these two players, I say make it happen. Both are surplus to requirements at Old Trafford and it helps trim the squad to a more manageable number for van Gaal to work with.
No-brainer deal, if you ask me.
No-brainer deal, if you ask me.
This thread is slowing down majorly, anyone got any Vidal photoshops in Manchester or any made up quotes about him growing up with a Nicky Butt poster above his bed? Let's keep the hope alive.
Can we let this thread die the whimpering death it deserves?
Eriksen is right. It doesn't matter if Nani doesn't fit in - and that Hernandez is 4th choice... the point stands that Eriksen makes...thats a lot of money plus 2 great players = a ton of money for Vidal. Is he worth that much?
I think I'd prefer a grander affair. Perhaps throwing a server on a bonfire?
I'll insist he wears it.
It does, because in the end, we need to get rid of Nani or Ando. They're blocking squad places and wages. If we can kill two birds with one stone, then so be it. Is he worth that much ? No idea, prices have gone apeshit over recent years so it's hard to tell. Ask yourself if such price is 'too big' to solve our midfield problems which have been pain in the arse for years now.
And hey, what's the point in having money, saving money, not overspending if we don't spend the money at all anyway ? If I'm to pick whether to overpay for one of the best midfielders in the world or to give the money to Glazers' pockets then I think I know what I'll pick.
This thread has gone on so much that were all bored, we are literally bored of the idea of signing the worlds best and most complete midfielder....that is what it has come to.
Yes if Luis & Torres are £50m, Bale £85m+, biter similar, Vidal is the best player in the world in his position; then yes he's worth it, in his prime, plus we get two players off the wage bill whose highish wages would have deterred high transfer fees anyway.
Did we ever signed any of the players that had one of these monster transfer threads? Probably only Berba... We seem to always miss on them, hard to be a muppet in our times.
SSN using Hernadez's agents quotes, I thought they were confirmed to be BS?
What quotes have they used? The ones where the agent says that the swap deal is on or that he'll have more news in a couple of days?
Where were they confirmed fake?
I can't believe people are complaining about the money 
. He's one of the best in the world in his position and we are one of the richest clubs in the world.
You seriously can't please some people. I would be absolutely delighted if we signed Vidal even if it was for 100m.
. He's one of the best in the world in his position and we are one of the richest clubs in the world. You seriously can't please some people. I would be absolutely delighted if we signed Vidal even if it was for 100m.
I'd be impressed if United could find anyone willing to pay more than £10million for either Nani or Hernandez tbh.
I Could easily see bids of less than 5 million for Nani in particular...so 40 million plus those two for Vidal seems like a very good deal.
I Could easily see bids of less than 5 million for Nani in particular...so 40 million plus those two for Vidal seems like a very good deal.
Is that SSN vine real? Because it says Rojo and Vidal in, while Chicarito and Lindegaard out.
Yup, it's real. If SSN are starting to go with it, their sources must be starting to see the fire through all that smoke!
I'm a little skeptical of their new HQ transfer strategy, lets hope they're not just getting into speculation a bit more.
Ok Nani I could get (although think there's a fair few who would go at ten mil) but why on earth do you think we'd find it hard to flog Hernandez for more than £10mil. I reckon every team in the PL alone would bite at that price. Selling Hernandez near that price would be pretty poor business on our side I'd say. He's worth at least 15m.
Hernandez is a £20m striker in today's market. If he'd gone to Atletico he would be a 30+ goal a season player for them IMO. I don't know why people underrate our players so much, is it because they're not playing so often? Jack Rodwell went for over £10m this summer for christssake.
The Mexico national team also don't rate him that highly either, he starts on the bench. Not to say he isn't work a few bob, but saying he would be a 30+ goal a season player is a bit of an overstatement
Shane Long is going for 12 mil. Chicago will easily go for 15+
Why would he be first choice for the national team when out of favour at his club? In his first couple of seasons with us he was a starter for Mexico and scored in almost every game.
He played in the qualifiers (for the world cup) and wasn't very good, which is how he lost his place. Obviously not playing for us contributed too.
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