Jeez that's a lot of money. If we sold Chica straight out I'd hope we'd get about £10-15mill, so plus one more player as well?!
€48m is £38m. So £38m + say £11m for Chica is £49m... PLUS this other player would bring it over 50 million quid for him!
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Jeez that's a lot of money. If we sold Chica straight out I'd hope we'd get about £10-15mill, so plus one more player as well?!
€48m is £38m. So £38m + say £11m for Chica is £49m... PLUS this other player would bring it over 50 million quid for him!
Cleverley playing with #25 jersey. 
That Chilean flag.
I think it's obvious: we badly need him
No he wasn't.Cleverley playing with #25 jersey.
You don't know that the club are sat "twiddling their thumbs". They got slated last year for doing things out in the open so they're doing things differently now and I think that's the way to go.
Bottom line - you target players, you make them an offer and you hopefully get them. Those players may have offers elsewhere and if they prefer those moves then what can the club do? Likewise - if the players you want simply aren't available, or don't fancy a move this summer, what can you do?
You need to move on to other targets, probably later in the window due to the time scales involved.
City did well - fair enough. I stand corrected on that score.
That said, the facts are that a lot of money has been made available over the last year, a manager on a long terms contract and all his staff replaced. That suggests to me that despite the failure to invest in the last few years the penny has now dropped.
We have Fellaini and fletcher now, to put it bluntly we just don't need him. #liar
I think that has been obvious for a while!
Your excellent pre season form hasnt helped really. Why risk a huge amount of money when you've got a chance to try your existing ones with a new manager and system.
I'm pretty sure that LVG sees the problem though. Every single pre-season match when Fletcher was replaced by somebody other ( not exclusively Cleverley, no ) we've lost control over the match. Usually it was connected with Mata leaving the pitch too. Tonight same shit happened. It's painly obvious that we need some new quality CM, whether it's Vidal or not.
About 9 years
I don't know who this guy is but he has 20k followers and looking at his timeline, doesnt seem like a bullshitter
Ben Fairthorne @BFairthorne
Followers will know I haven't reported transfer news all summer. Just been told by agent with players at United that Vidal is a 100% done.
Ben Fairthorne @BFairthorne Followers will know I haven't reported transfer news all summer. Just been told by agent with players at United that Vidal is a 100% done.
I know it's less than one week to kick off and we're still short of at least one CB and a winger. That's twiddling your thumbs. As for targets and availability Real Madrid have literally never missed out on a player they've made their prime target, when they identify someone they always get him, they aren't hopeful about getting them they simply make it happen. Us not being willing to stump up the cash or match the offers from other clubs is another slight on the Glazers as owners.
I don't know who this guy is but he has 20k followers and looking at his timeline, doesnt seem like a bullshitter
Followers will know I haven't reported transfer news all summer. Just been told by agent with players at United that Vidal is a 100% done.
He's banned from here.
Ah bollocks! Was getting excited, apologies!
LVG's holland had a good world cup, yet he hasnt bought anyone from his Dutch team. He wont be swayed by a few matches I dont think.
Isn't the banned list just for the twitter thread, i don't think it applies site wide.
Maybe so but the point is he's banned cause he chats shit!
As I said - you have your top targets and if they don't come off you have to move on. I suspect that's what's happened in certain positions at least.
You're making assumptions that the players we want are not moving solely because if money when there is nothing to suggest that's the case.
For me the fact that you're spending mega millions on a teenage left back suggests you are willing to spend. Net spend has been high since last summer so I disagree with your assessment that its down to money alone.
Why are people constantly comparing us to Madrid. Yes they get who they want but they're spending like crazy just cause spanish banks will forgive them all their debts and have a majority, together with Barca, of TV rights in Spain. Plus many players want to play for them.
We need few more players but I always like to see some homegrown players together with new ones, and not just buy and buy like Madrid. Would like us to be like them in transfers sometimes but not have a club policy of stacking stars like them. Nor we'll ever do that. In some things we cant compare ourselves to Madrid and that's that.
We need few more players but I always like to see some homegrown players together with new ones, and not just buy and buy like Madrid. Would like us to be like them in transfers sometimes but not have a club policy of stacking stars like them. Nor we'll ever do that. In some things we cant compare ourselves to Madrid and that's that.
Well i don't know if he talks shit, i don't care either i assume most people on twitter spreading transfer gossip talk shit. Which is why i don't listen to pretty much everything posted on here from twitter.
The point is though if hes not banned from this thread, then theres no need to tell people hes banned is there?
People should be able to post what they like within the forum rules.
But tbh he hasn't spouted transfer bollocks for a long time now.
I nearly had an accident thanks for letting us know this twat chats shit
Thought we were signing him today? Utter bollocks.
What's stretch and co saying about this now?
What's stretch and co saying about this now?
We brought in Fellaini last summer and our net spend should be judged over the period they've been at the club not over a specific period which suits your argument.
I'm not claiming they're not moving solely because of money, but if a player has to choose between us and Barca and Barca offer him 40k week more and a sign on fee then we don't get him. The simple fact is Real Madrid make things happen they don't move on to second string targets, the market determines what someone is worth and all this "value in the market guff" seems to be because United aren't prepared to pay what the market dictates a player is worth. Plenty of value in the market pre Glazers when we broke the british transfer record regularly. Now there's suddenly no value in the market when we can't afford to compete.
I'd heard it's tomorrow we're signing him, no?
No Sir Alex. Go back to hugging Ronaldo.
I never said we're signing him today. I said expect significant movement by this weekend. If nowt happens I will pack my bags and depart the Vidal muppet station
I think you're taking the whole banning thing too seriously. He's just 'blacklisted' as a bullshitter. That's all.
that's racist surely?
Haha i really don't mate, the majority of twitter transfer stuff on here seems like nonsense to me i don't take it seriously at all. Hence why i don't run around telling people twitter numpties are banned.
Banned/blacklisted whats the difference? Whichever it is hes not banned/blacklisted from this thread as far as i know, so whats the problem if the lad wants to post it he's not doing any harm as long as he isn't breaking any forum rules.
If all the bullshit merchants from twitter were banned the twitter thread would have like 70-80% less tweets.
Apart from the conspicuously dashing bowtie, I have no reason to believe Ben Fairthorne is bullshitting us.
Tomorrow, We go again....!!!!!!!!
I believe by this weekend we'll see what's up as well.
We're not getting anywhere here, so this is pointless.
My argument is this - there has been significant underinvestment for most if the period the Glazers have been in charge and I was vocal then, and now that this has harmed the club and left us where we are now.
My opinion is that this is changing - the basis for which is the fact that significant money has been spent post Fergie. I'm not picking a period to "suit my argument", its the basis for my whole argument. In judging the owners on recent behaviour which seems logical to me.
You don't agree - that's fine, you're entitled to take whatever opinion you choose.
I'm no big fan of the Glazer's but prefer to look forward rather than look backwards at what might have been. I'm pissed off as. Fan that we are where we are and obviously wish we weren't in this position. I wish more cash had been spent addressing areas of concern over the last 5 years.
Fact is - things change. The days of no transfer funds and continued success weren't going to last forever and I see positive signs that the owners realise that. The "no value in the market" was utter crap - but was also years ago. Nobody is saying that now. What once was wont necessarily always be.
If you want to believe that the only reason we've not spent big this summer is because there is no money and its all a lie then that's fine. I think it's more complex that that. Attracting top players is hard, getting clubs to part with them is hard a d fighting off interest from Madrid and Barca for continental players is hard.
I'm ducking out here because we're going in circles.
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I'm starting to doubt this transfer now I hate you glazers.
I hate you glazers.I'm starting to doubt this transfer now
If it doesn't go through you can only blame LVG or Vidal's knee.
If LVG wanted him, he would be here....just like how he name checked Di Maria and we'll be getting him soon enough IMO.
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