Arturo Vidal
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I agree with that! Probably the only really good sales we've had was Veron to Chelsea and Ronaldo to Real (and even that one turned out to be a bargain for Real..)
Since when are Fellaini and Hernandez worth 27m pounds in todays market? 10m for Hernandez, ok but who is going to pay 17m pounds for Fellaini?So roughly £49 + 10 + 17 = £76 million (give or take) for Vidal. You Sir should be running our transfer dealings, that sounds like a bargain
Sure they are. But the thing is that they have all been told by the club that we aren't in for Vidal. This is different from telling them who we actually are after.
Yea well lets hope someone pops that particular question to him soon, then.
Yep, at the time it looked like a good deal for Ronaldo, in hindsight, I suppose you could argue that it wasn’t that great.
I reckon the Club are reluctant to spend a large amount of money on a player who will turn 28 by the time the season ends, add to that his dodgy knee, then it’s understandable that the club are (allegedly) taking their time.
If we don’t get Vidal, I really hope we have a backup plan.
Not really I still have a bit of hope that Vidal will join.
Of course he’s worth £17m, in fact I’d imagine that is slightly undervaluing him, like him or not, during his time at Everton he was a very good player.
Because of the second part of my post - LVG has already said that he won't talk about specific targets
Carroll went to Pool for 35m.
Two years later he want to WHU for a third of that. I'd imagine Fellaini is worth 10m max.
He's not a first teamer for us, had a poor season in which he failed to live up to expectations and is surplus to requirements with LvG looking to offload. That will drive his price way down.
That's because we generally don't sell players we want to keep. Ever. Ronaldo being the obvious exception.
It's pointless saying we could've got X amount for Hernandez a season or 2 ago when he wasn't on the market.
There is no way we will get £17m for Fellaini - we would be lucky to give him away for nothing at this point, given his wages. More likely is a face-saving loan deal with United subsidising his wages whilst Fellaini gets the opportunity to re-prove himself.
Unless I'm not looking at the right papers I have seen far more media speculation linking us to Hummels and di Maria than Vidal
Twitter is Vidal territory
Its an interesting part of the whole epic, the fact that the british press are out of the loop. All the stories are coming from the Chilean and Italian media. No idea if that means anything or not really.
What rubbish - maye not £17m, but we could get £14-15m, and clubs would be queuing up at £10-12m.
It makes sense for the club to deny links to Vidal after what happened last year with Cesc. It's pretty evident we keeping our cards close to our chest. However we cannot control the leaks on the agent or selling club side. All the main stories on this have come from Juve connected media or Chile. Reliable journos in Italy have all reported our interest. Di Marzio said we're interested in Vidal but no offer has been made. Same for La Stampa who are very connected to Juve. Add that to the Chilean national coach spilling beans on a knee story that was reported weeks ago before he confirmed it. Add further to that Vidals constant refusal to fully commit himself to Juve and their manager and CEO also not saying he's not for sale. They've dilly dallied about talking about an offer that can't be refused and that it's up to player etc. They've not ruled out the transfer like say Klopp did with Hummels. The rumours have been so strong that even Ogden admitted United might be lying to them about Vidal.
This is getting ridiculous haha
£10m? Come on now, be a bit realistic, there would be a queue around the block if we were offering Fellaini for £10m.
Do we really think we will take a £17m loss on him after one season, for which he was injured during large parts. Yes we are going to make a big loss, but he’s still a quality player. Unfortunately it looks like he’s not going to make it here, that doesn’t mean he’s shit though.
Granted he didn’t have a great season, but who did? This is what I meant earlier when I said we are undervaluing our players, we have a History of letting players go cheap, and it has to stop.
My point is, IF we are going to do a swap + cash deal (unlikely I know) then we shouldn't just bend over and just accept what Juve think he’s worth.
Edit: Vermaelen has just been sold for £15
You forget he had a decent world cup
Decent? excluding his cameo against Algeria he was woeful.
Although unlikely, a swap deal would actually be a good solution for us. We could say that Fellaini is being valued at £15m or whatever, which both helps us save face on the Fellaini deal and make it look like we are paying a bit less net for Vidal. In reality, both sides would know that Fellaini was just being thrown in as a sweetener.
what world cup did you watch??
Reporting in the Corriere Dello Sport today that Vidal must be going as his agent is in England. Basically saying he wouldn't be in England 3 days before the Ferragosto (15th Aug) deadline Juve imposed unless it was to negotiate a deal.
lunedì 11 agosto 2014
Juve, Vidal in fuga: Van Gaal lo chiama
Il manager del centrocampista ieri era a Londra. Lo United offre 8 milioni a stagione. Marotta ne vuole non meno di 50
ROMA - Arturo Vidal ha davanti un bivio: restare alla Juve o andare al Manchester United. Ieri il suo agente era a Londra, ufficialmente per assistere al Community Shield, ma non è andato fino in Inghilterra per fare passerella. Mancano tre giorni a Ferragosto, la data dell'ultimatum dei bianconeri al centrocampista. Marotta vuole non meno di 50 milioni, mentre Van Gaal tenta il colpo al ribasso. Per niente al ribasso, invece, l'ingaggio promesso a Vidal: un quadriennale da otto milioni netti a stagione. Una delle ipotesi possibili è l'inserimento da parte dei Red Devils del cartellino del Chicharito Hernandez.
lunedì 11 agosto 2014
Juve, Vidal in fuga: Van Gaal lo chiama
Il manager del centrocampista ieri era a Londra. Lo United offre 8 milioni a stagione. Marotta ne vuole non meno di 50
ROMA - Arturo Vidal ha davanti un bivio: restare alla Juve o andare al Manchester United. Ieri il suo agente era a Londra, ufficialmente per assistere al Community Shield, ma non è andato fino in Inghilterra per fare passerella. Mancano tre giorni a Ferragosto, la data dell'ultimatum dei bianconeri al centrocampista. Marotta vuole non meno di 50 milioni, mentre Van Gaal tenta il colpo al ribasso. Per niente al ribasso, invece, l'ingaggio promesso a Vidal: un quadriennale da otto milioni netti a stagione. Una delle ipotesi possibili è l'inserimento da parte dei Red Devils del cartellino del Chicharito Hernandez.
I didn't say he was brilliant, but he was a decent option as a no10 (not for us) but he would be useful for a mid table club for about 15m
Agreed, Fellaini, Hernandez and £15-£16m would be a good deal for both sides IMO.
Does Vidal's Agent not have any other clients then?
You can't be sure about that. He is worth as much as the club that wants to buy him is going to spend. His wages at the moment will scare away a lot of clubs that are willing to pay that amount. Also since he's not in LvG plans, his value is likely to go down in terms of time, rather than go up.
If we're offered 17m loss but to cash in some of the sum for him, or knock the price for Vidal down with 10m I'd gladly take it and probably United as well.
Hell for just a few months Liverpool took a big loss on Keane, so I can't see the issue with that.
Juventus would feel robbed with just £15m and those two players for Vidal, would Fellaini or Hernandez even get into the Juve starting 11? Probably not.
Is decent the new average?
I pretty much doubt Juve will be in for him. He's the player they don't need. Hernandez, Nani - yes. But Fellaini...
As a footballer he looked so out of place the majority of that world cup. Juve would never want him even if we offered him for free.
Anyone think we're actually interested in signing him? People can't stop talking about it but there's no actual evidence from the club that we want to sign him. I feel like we're talking this up in our heads.
Agreed. Somehow you need the big number to justify the sale, not just two perceived surplus squad players.
I reckon it'll come out eventually that we had a good look at him, couldn't or didn't want to do a deal and everything from that point was Juve and Vidal trying to engineer interest/a move.
Not really, you need a deal that the two Clubs are happy with, if they want Fellaini and Hernandez as well as a realistic amount of millions, then I can see both Clubs thinking they got the best deal.
So much coming out of Italy on United interest, but literally nothing reported by the English press (not counting Star & Express).
You can just imagine Woody tweeting Vidal.
"You know babe, we're sooo into you, it's just who you're with now...."
"Don't worry about that, sexy, I'll deal and we'll hook up soon, xox"
So much coming out of Italy on United interest, but literally nothing reported by the English press (not counting Star & Express).
He has already engineering deals for half his other clients this summer! At least Sanchez, Medel and Isla have already moved that I'm aware of. He's a busy guy.
Both of whom are usually just rehashing the Chilean and Italian stories. I assume the other English media outlets can't indepenently confirm-so do not run the stories.
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