Arturo Vidal

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So glad that he's finally coming here, I thought it was over a few weeks ago but it's clearly so on.
 
So roughly £49 + 10 + 17 = £76 million (give or take) for Vidal. You Sir should be running our transfer dealings, that sounds like a bargain :lol:

It will cost us more in the long run if our crappy midfield keep us out of the CL!
 
You don't think that he is able to get deals in 20 days ?

No to be honest.
Unless he offers what the club wants (obviously not wise entering into a bidding war)I can see no reason why he can't just sign the players we want unless that said player doesn't want to join us.
When he said about the club being willing to spend huge if the manager wants the player and that players are queuing up to sign for us, all makes me a bit skeptical.
Yes Vidal has a knee issue so I understand to a degree why this transfer would potentially take a long time but if we really do want the likes of Blind, Cuardado etc why not just bid. We bid for Vermaelen when linked with him over 6 weeks ago, we must have been so confident of signing him but that back fired with Wengers unreasonable demands. Surely we could have bid weeks back and then left a lot more time to sign another CB should we fail.
Yes people will shoot me down about the complex nature of signing a player but to be honest that doesn't bother me, that is the job of Ed and the clubs lawyers to sort out, that's what they get paid for.
If even the most simplistic of signings are that complex and take a long time why leave it so late in the window.
It would also be of no benefit to selling clubs to lie about us making bids. At present we have made no bids for Cuardado, Di Maria, Blind or Vidal according to those clubs - obviously we may not be after any of them but I highly doubt that.
I know people will pull apart this post and put me in my place but this is my opinion and I hope it proves to be completely wrong come the 1st September.
 
The best thing about tomorrow is that there's always another tomorrow, by that logic he'll definitely sign tomorrow.
 
It will cost us more in the long run if our crappy midfield keep us out of the CL!
Vidal alone won't be the difference between 5th and 4th IMO. Especially if his injury issues continue.
 
No. But I would not mind paying a hefty fee that includes Fellaini (who is in reality useless to us) and Hernandez who also is of no real use to us.
I'd have no issue in giving them Fellaini and Hernandez, however to add £46m on top of that would be insane. At the very most you'd be talking about an additional £15 - 17 million.
 
Id no no issue in giving them Fellaini and Hernandez, however to add £46m on top of that would be insane. At the very most you'd be talking about an additional £15 - 17 million.

I agree that 46m on top of that would be extermely steep - I'd be happy to give them 30m though. Our midfield is atrocious and everyone knows that and will try to take advantage until we actually do manage to strengthen it.
 
Sorry are we purposely ignoring Juve denying any negotiations for Vidal with United?
 
Its speculation and almost definitely bullshit however I would not have a problem with the deal if he were to return to his best. We have no use for Fellaini, Chicha is better off going to another team so the main loss would be money and I couldnt care less about the Glazers spending cash.
Sometimes it is not really about whether you care about us spending money or not. It's something to set precedent and if we are getting a ridiculously overpriced player now, where will this farce end? In the future, there will be more and more players/agent demanding more and we look desperate. United was never and hopefully never will be, a club buying trophies with obscene kind of ££££s. Our pockets are also hardly bottomless
 
I agree that 46m on top of that would be extermely steep - I'd be happy to give them 30m though. Our midfield is atrocious and everyone knows that and will try to take advantage until we actually do manage to strengthen it.
I can understand that, but we would still be massively undervaluing Hernandez and Fellaini in that deal. As a Club it frustrates the Hell out of me how we never get a good deal when selling players, a year ago we could have got £20+ million for Hernandez, add that to the £10 million loss on Fellaini then we are still overpaying, we could and should be getting him or alot less.
 
No to be honest.
Unless he offers what the club wants (obviously not wise entering into a bidding war)I can see no reason why he can't just sign the players we want unless that said player doesn't want to join us.
When he said about the club being willing to spend huge if the manager wants the player and that players are queuing up to sign for us, all makes me a bit skeptical.
Yes Vidal has a knee issue so I understand to a degree why this transfer would potentially take a long time but if we really do want the likes of Blind, Cuardado etc why not just bid. We bid for Vermaelen when linked with him over 6 weeks ago, we must have been so confident of signing him but that back fired with Wengers unreasonable demands. Surely we could have bid weeks back and then left a lot more time to sign another CB should we fail.
Yes people will shoot me down about the complex nature of signing a player but to be honest that doesn't bother me, that is the job of Ed and the clubs lawyers to sort out, that's what they get paid for.
If even the most simplistic of signings are that complex and take a long time why leave it so late in the window.
It would also be of no benefit to selling clubs to lie about us making bids. At present we have made no bids for Cuardado, Di Maria, Blind or Vidal according to those clubs - obviously we may not be after any of them but I highly doubt that.
I know people will pull apart this post and put me in my place but this is my opinion and I hope it proves to be completely wrong come the 1st September.


I am with you on this!
 
No to be honest.
Unless he offers what the club wants (obviously not wise entering into a bidding war)I can see no reason why he can't just sign the players we want unless that said player doesn't want to join us.
When he said about the club being willing to spend huge if the manager wants the player and that players are queuing up to sign for us, all makes me a bit skeptical.
Yes Vidal has a knee issue so I understand to a degree why this transfer would potentially take a long time but if we really do want the likes of Blind, Cuardado etc why not just bid. We bid for Vermaelen when linked with him over 6 weeks ago, we must have been so confident of signing him but that back fired with Wengers unreasonable demands. Surely we could have bid weeks back and then left a lot more time to sign another CB should we fail.
Yes people will shoot me down about the complex nature of signing a player but to be honest that doesn't bother me, that is the job of Ed and the clubs lawyers to sort out, that's what they get paid for.
If even the most simplistic of signings are that complex and take a long time why leave it so late in the window.
It would also be of no benefit to selling clubs to lie about us making bids. At present we have made no bids for Cuardado, Di Maria, Blind or Vidal according to those clubs - obviously we may not be after any of them but I highly doubt that.
I know people will pull apart this post and put me in my place but this is my opinion and I hope it proves to be completely wrong come the 1st September.

Clubs rarely just randomly fax bids out of the blue then go to the negotiating table. In most cases they will have discussions first and have a fairly close idea of what both parties are after by the time the bid goes in. So the bid is usually the penultimate thing to happen, not the first thing.

Consider the Vidal deal - the very existence of all these rumours suggests that the club is working on it. All that stuff about medicals, deals with agents, agreed personal terms, preparing a bid etc - that's the work taking place. If/when a bid goes in, the ground work has been done. The bid, if anything, is a formality and sending one over right now could make zip all difference, since all the moving parts haven't yet been agreed.

On the other hand if you think all those things are just rumours without foundation, then basically you're complaining that Ed hasn't achieved something he isn't trying to do.
 
No to be honest.
Unless he offers what the club wants (obviously not wise entering into a bidding war)I can see no reason why he can't just sign the players we want unless that said player doesn't want to join us.
When he said about the club being willing to spend huge if the manager wants the player and that players are queuing up to sign for us, all makes me a bit skeptical.
Yes Vidal has a knee issue so I understand to a degree why this transfer would potentially take a long time but if we really do want the likes of Blind, Cuardado etc why not just bid. We bid for Vermaelen when linked with him over 6 weeks ago, we must have been so confident of signing him but that back fired with Wengers unreasonable demands. Surely we could have bid weeks back and then left a lot more time to sign another CB should we fail.
Yes people will shoot me down about the complex nature of signing a player but to be honest that doesn't bother me, that is the job of Ed and the clubs lawyers to sort out, that's what they get paid for.
If even the most simplistic of signings are that complex and take a long time why leave it so late in the window.
It would also be of no benefit to selling clubs to lie about us making bids. At present we have made no bids for Cuardado, Di Maria, Blind or Vidal according to those clubs - obviously we may not be after any of them but I highly doubt that.
I know people will pull apart this post and put me in my place but this is my opinion and I hope it proves to be completely wrong come the 1st September.

Because we are awfully fecking slow, that's why. If last year wasn't enough of a proof then this year's events definitely are.
 
Sorry are we purposely ignoring Juve denying any negotiations for Vidal with United?
We aren't negotiating for Vidal. Vidal's agent is. Keep up, we established that weeks ago!
 
You can tell we're getting desperate now when people here are actually saying we should pay £76m for Vidal which is about £30m more than he is worth.
 
Anything approaching £50m would be insane.

World record fee for a CM, who is 27 and could have a dodgy knee.
 
The problem is the journalists only know what we know - a few spurious reports coming out of Chile and Juve's insistence that he's staying. Nowhere near enough for them to waste a presser question on.

Plus, even if they did, they know the answer would be that he won't talk about specific players.

I don't think it'd be a waste of a question - it's the biggest United-related story of the summer. They papers have filled loads of column inches with conjecture - why don't they ask a question and try and add some substance?
 
All the reliable journos have repeatedly said that the club has told them we aren't interested/negotiating for Vidal. What more do you need?

As far as I'm concerned there are no reliable journos connected with United this year. They're all feeding of scraps
 
As far as I'm concerned there are no reliable journos connected with United this year. They're all feeding of scraps
That’s been evident by the repeated rumours that have been floating about for months, if he is going to sign it’s going to come out of the blue (so to speak)
 
All the reliable journos have repeatedly said that the club has told them we aren't interested/negotiating for Vidal. What more do you need?

There's a difference between a media person at the club briefing behind closed doors and our manager being put on the spot during a televised presser...
 
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