Arturo Vidal

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Can anyone tell me who Vidal scores against at around 9.15 in this video? Edit - It's the beautiful lofted header I'm referring to.



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Spoony said:
He's called Dave.
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de Gea?

It's definitely off if it's de Gea :(
 
Sied said:
Can anyone tell me who Vidal scores against at around 9.15 in this video? Edit - It's the beautiful lofted header I'm referring to.



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de Gea?

It's definitely off if it's de Gea :(
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Copenhagen in the UCL. Part of a hat trick he scored in that game. Juve won 3-1.
 
Just me watching that video thinking if he makes half of those tackles in the Prem he'll get sent off?
 
Brophs said:
What reliable outlets? If these papers keep getting it wrong - which they all are - then why trust them?
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La Stampa and Di Marzio are the sources i'm referring to. I said afew weeks back that until La Stampa or Di Marzio confirm our interest i'm gonna be cautious re Vidal.

The player has had countless opportunities to quash the rumours but he refuses to do so. If one of our players was making comments like "I have heard the rumours about Man Utd but I have a Agent who deals with stuff like that".... "If I stay I will be happy" then the majority on here would think he's off.

It's obvious to me that there is something going on in the back-ground hence Vidal not committing to Juve.
 
matherto said:
Just me watching that video thinking if he makes half of those tackles in the Prem he'll get sent off?
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Half is a bit of an exaggeration. There is 3-4 tackles in there that can be red card material though, you're right about that. Tends to slide in straight at the player from the front (as opposed to from one of the two sides). Risky to say the least.
 
RustyS said:
Copenhagen in the UCL. Part of a hat trick he scored in that game. Juve won 3-1.
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Thanks man. Absolutely love the weighting on that header. Reminds me of the one Messi scored vs us in the CL... But less upsetting of course!

Just a shame the other 2 he scored in that hattrick were from the spot, but the quality of that header makes up for it.
 
Sied said:
Thanks man. Absolutely love the weighting on that header. Reminds me of the one Messi scored vs us in the CL... But less upsetting of course!

Just a shame the other 2 he scored in that hattrick were from the spot, but the quality of that header makes up for it.
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I left out the part about the other two goals being penalties. I didn't want to take any of the shine off in a muppetry thread :angel:
 
matherto said:
Just me watching that video thinking if he makes half of those tackles in the Prem he'll get sent off?
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RustyS said:
Half is a bit of an exaggeration. There is 3-4 tackles in there that can be red card material though, you're right about that. Tends to slide in straight at the player from the front (as opposed to from one of the two sides). Risky to say the least.
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I spotted 2-3 tackles in that particular youtube vid and neither of them are fouls in my book, although I know where you're coming from. At times last season I felt like slide tackling had become disallowed. The tackles in that video are examples of how to do it right imo. Depends on the ref though. As soon as you leave the ground some seem to reach for their cards regardless of what happens next.

His tracking back and constantly biting at players heals is one of my favourite features of his defensive game. A lot of other players wouldn't make much effort to chase a player down once they get the wrong side of him. Vidal has the engine to chase absolutely everything.
 
Brightonian said:
No, ignore Gannicus he's completely wrong. Vidal's injury is one that can, potentially, afflict a player for their entire career. It's the same category of injury as Ledley King's was. It's especially risky if the player exacerbates it by playing after the surgery, which is exactly what Vidal did at the world cup.

It's an injury that he could well completely recover from, but it certainly makes sense for us to take our time and wait until we're sure he'll recover properly.
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My God, some of you people make it sound like Vidal had knee replacement surgery and that he's lucky to even to walking again.

Yes of course we have to put Vidal through a medical exam like we would anyone else. If he's a hobbled mess then screw him and screw Juve. Professional athletes get through far more serious injuries than a meniscus tear all the time. If Vidal's surgery was botched our medical staff will pick that up and advise Louis accordingly.

And if Louis says no to the deal because he doesn't like Vidal's haircut, so be it. But if we're going to start nixing deals because a player once suffered an injury of any kind we're not going to have much of a squad. It's just a fact of life in football that players will get hurt and that they will recover. Hargreaves is the exception, a player who either got bad treatment or who just chucked it all in once he got hurt.
 
Only people on twitter continue to link us with Vidal, papers and other media seem to have given up
 
Going to the Juve match tonight. He won't feature but I would have loved to have seen him play.
charlenefan said:
Only people on twitter continue to link us with Vidal, papers and other media seem to have given up
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True but to be honest, most transfer speculation is the same these days.
 
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Sied said:
His tracking back and constantly biting at players heals is one of my favourite features of his defensive game. A lot of other players wouldn't make much effort to chase a player down once they get the wrong side of him. Vidal has the engine to chase absolutely everything.
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Him and Herrera both have that quality. Our midfield would be so full of energy and movement both offensively and defensively.
 
This Vidal injury is a classical case of risk analysis and will have more to do with the financial aspect of things than the footballing aspects. The club will have probably by now asked the medical experts how likely Vidal's injury is to occur again or hamper him from going back to his level. That number or percentage coupled with a few other things will have determined how the club proceeds:

  • What is the club's financial tolerance? If Vidal doesn't recover properly and ROI on Vidal's transfer fee + wages is minimal, how will that impact the finances of the club and what will be the long term impact on the pitch as well as in the market?
  • What is the threshold for the tranfer fee +wages at which the likelihood of the injury being persistent decides whether to buy Vidal or not? This means that the risk drives the maximum fee we will be prepared to pay. A risk of 15% might mean we are willing to pay up to 50m and as the risk increases, the maximum will have to decrease. It is not necessarily follow a linear relationship either and at a certain threshold, the transfer stops making sense all together.
  • If we choose to not invest in Vidal, what are some potential financial risks? The higher those are, the more likely we are to take the risky investment that is Vidal.
In footballing terms, the last question is determined by whether or not there is other viable options that present a lower risk.

These calculations are not straightforward but a risk analysis can come up with results such as buying Modic for 70m is a less risky investment than buying Vidal for 35. (Just an example)

I'm sure a club as big as ours hires consultants to work out these scenarios and that can be one of the things that delays transfers. I'd be happy if that is the case. A methodological approach like this does not guarantee things a 100% of the time but more often than not, you will get the big decision right.
 
RustyS said:
This Vidal injury is a classical case of risk analysis and will have more to do with the financial aspect of things than the footballing aspects. The club will have probably by now asked the medical experts how likely Vidal's injury is to occur again or hamper him from going back to his level. That number or percentage coupled with a few other things will have determined how the club proceeds:

  • What is the club's financial tolerance? If Vidal doesn't recover properly and ROI on Vidal's transfer fee + wages is minimal, how will that impact the finances of the club and what will be the long term on the pitch as well as in the market?
  • What is the threshold for the tranfer fee +wages at which the likelihood of the injury being persistent decides whether to buy Vidal or not? This means that the risk drives the maximum fee we will be prepared to pay. A risk of 15% might mean we are willing to pay up to 50m and as the risk increases, the maximum will have to decrease. It is not necessarily a linear relationship either.
  • If we choose to not invest in Vidal, what are some potential financial risks? The higher those are, the more likely we are to take the risky investment that is Vidal.
In footballing terms, the last question is determined by whether or not there is other viable options that present a lower risk.

These calculations are not straightforward but a risk analysis can come up with results such as buying Modic for 70m is a less risky investmen than buying Vidal for 35.

I'm sure a club as big as ours hires consultants to work out these scenarios and that can be one of the things that delays transfer. I'd be happy if that is the case. A methodological approach like this does not guarantee things a 100% but more often than not, you will get the big decision right.
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I think due diligence is a good thing...especially after Hargreaves.
If Vidal's knee checks out we'll sign him IMO.
 
This thread is hilarious, pages and pages of escapism. No new information on the progression of the transfer, just waves of high's and lows. It's like a mental patient on a hardcore hallucinogenic. Quality entertainment:lol:
 
Morpheus 7 said:
This thread is hilarious, pages and pages of escapism. No new information on the progression of the transfer, just waves of high's and lows. It's like a mental patient on a hardcore hallucinogenic. Quality entertainment:lol:
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You shall wear a Jagielka shirt to your next match as punishment. I'm sorry, but you either believe or you don't. The rest of us will have little Vidal plastic flags :drool:
 
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