Arturo Vidal

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Instinct friends... instinct. Van Gaal is wary of knee injuries. When asked about Strootman he said that Strootman has to first recover successfully from knee injury and that's not easy to do. Not many fully recover from knee injuries.

With Vidal, he's 28 and probably in the prime of his career. But, the fact remains he's 28 and has maybe 5 top class years of football. With his dodgy knee, how many of those years can be injury-free? The problem with his injury is that he was in bad-shape before the WC and was told to not play in Rio. He decided to go through the tournament with painkillers and regular injections. The damage done to his knee is immeasurable. He might have done permanent damage and it's a ticking time bomb of an injury waiting to go off. Look how Hargreaves turned out? He never recovered once he got injured at United and it was said that it was worsened because he was played with a dodgy knee.

Vidal played a number of games in a very short span of time and that adds to the stress. I'm not sure LVG is willing to spend north of £40m for a player who may end up crocked for a while to come if he were to re-injure himself.

Tremendous player but that's a lot of money for an unknown quantity with respect to his knee.

As I said, instinct.
He turned 27 in May.
 
That's not strictly true, did he not have an operation to fix the problem in his knee before the WC? Sure he has run on it earlier than he should, but that's a bit different.

http://sports.terra.com/soccer/worl...8ae06432d0d56410VgnVCM5000009ccceb0aRCRD.html

In it, the Chilean team doctor asks Vidal to skip the WC. He has a Meniscus injury and those injuries take time to heal. What's the worst possible thing you could do? Apply pressure. Yes, he has had surgery, but for a prolonged career, you need to fortify the muscles around the meniscus to make it injury-free again. Vidal playing means he's probably done some more extra damage.
 
The way he plays reminds me of Roy Keane so much. God I hope he's knees are fine and we sign him.
 
Bullshit, friends, bullshit. I know absolutely nothing about Vidal's injury or recovery, other than what I've gleaned from the Internet. However, I won't let this stop me banging on about it like I'm professor fecking kneedoc, the world's foremost authority on knee injuries, specifically knee injuries to Chilean midfielders who played in the world cup.

To make it look even better I'm going to pad out my post with most generic codswallop I can manage to think of and keep writing sentences that say absolutely nothing, nor give any real insight on the topic I'm currently pontificating on.

In conclusion, I know no more than any of the rest of you but felt the need to weigh in as if I did.

Instinct.
 
Bullshit, friends, bullshit. I know absolutely nothing about Vidal's injury or recovery, other than what I've gleaned from the Internet. However, I won't let this stop me banging on about it like I'm professor fecking kneedoc, the world's foremost authority on knee injuries, specifically knee injuries to Chilean midfielders who played in the world cup.

To make it look even better I'm going to pad out my post with most generic codswallop I can manage to think of and keep writing sentences that say absolutely nothing, nor give any real insight on the topic I'm currently pontificating on.

In conclusion, I know no more than any of the rest of you but felt the need to weigh in as if I did.

Instinct.

It is just a basic instinct. Like when Sharon Stone moves her leg during interrogation :drool:
 
Instinct friends... instinct. Van Gaal is wary of knee injuries. When asked about Strootman he said that Strootman has to first recover successfully from knee injury and that's not easy to do. Not many fully recover from knee injuries.

With Vidal, he's 27 and probably in the prime of his career. But, the fact remains he's 27 and has maybe 5-6 top class years of football. With his dodgy knee, how many of those years can be injury-free? The problem with his injury is that he was in bad-shape before the WC and was told to not play in Rio. He decided to go through the tournament with painkillers and regular injections. The damage done to his knee is immeasurable. He might have done permanent damage and it's a ticking time bomb of an injury waiting to go off. Look how Hargreaves turned out? He never recovered once he got injured at United and it was said that it was worsened because he was played with a dodgy knee.

Vidal played a number of games in a very short span of time and that adds to the stress. I'm not sure LVG is willing to spend north of £40m for a player who may end up crocked for a while to come if he were to re-injure himself.

Tremendous player but that's a lot of money for an unknown quantity with respect to his knee.

As I said, instinct.

EDIT: Apologies. He's 27. Not that it matters too much to the point I'm making.

Well next time you'd be well advised to not pass your instinct or thoughts off as fact. See Rafa's rant as reference.
 
Bullshit, friends, bullshit. I know absolutely nothing about Vidal's injury or recovery, other than what I've gleaned from the Internet. However, I won't let this stop me banging on about it like I'm professor fecking kneedoc, the world's foremost authority on knee injuries, specifically knee injuries to Chilean midfielders who played in the world cup.

To make it look even better I'm going to pad out my post with most generic codswallop I can manage to think of and keep writing sentences that say absolutely nothing, nor give any real insight on the topic I'm currently pontificating on.

In conclusion, I know no more than any of the rest of you but felt the need to weigh in as if I did.

Instinct.

Wtf did I just read ?
 
Well next time you'd be well advised to not pass your instinct or thoughts off as fact. See Rafa's rant as reference.

Err... where did I pass my instinct as facts? My instinct is BASED ON facts. Where in my post do I say anything, other than what is already established, are facts? These are my opinions.

Facts provide the platform for ideas and thoughts. Opinion is formed thereof and that's what forums are there for - exchange of ideas and opinions.
 
Hahaha. That goes without saying :P

I'm talking about why youre so certain it's happening - youre heart will be in tatters should it not... even more than the rest of us!

All will be clear soon enough :D
 
I dont think he was crying in that pic at all, surely not....just looks, alone.
 
He's just looking down at his phone in poor light? It's really a non story :lol:
 
He's just looking down at his phone in poor light? It's really a non story :lol:
Well to be doing that alone on the tour bus is a little weird....unless he needed the privacy to talk to his AGENT
 
By the way, if he signs or not I think it should be our mission to destroy the Berbatov thread since he did come and turned out to be a little bit of a dud.
 
Maybe this stuff about knees is all bollocks and Vidal is being held hostage by Juve. I bet they've paid the Chilean coach to come out with those comments to further reinforce the issue about his so-called 'dodgy' knees.
 
Personally I'm really glad United are being wary about Vidal's knee. That would be so much money if he does end up crocked most of the time. Just Hargeaves all over again. We don't just want one good season from a player at that value....
 


We need to make a similar video to this for Vidal. Remember Berbatov refusing to play for Tottenham and Fergie had to swoop in there to save him

That was brilliant :D I had forgotten those 'Special One' skits. Now I'm going to have to spend an evening on Youtube - thanks for nothing ;)
 
So why hasn't any reputable newspaper in Europe picked up on this quote? Any video evidence of his words? Seems made up or over exaggerated!
The interview has been reported in some parts of the English media, they've stayed away from the Vidal story anyway. This isn't a bullshit story, sorry if you're that sceptical you disbelieve an interview.
 
Some seem to think that if LVG is holding off on Vidal because of the knee and that it will lead to an inevitable move for Strootman. Strootman's injury is far worse than Vidal's. I don't understand the logic if that was the case.
 
Some seem to think that if LVG is holding off on Vidal because of the knee and that it will lead to an inevitable move for Strootman. Strootman's injury is far worse than Vidal's. I don't understand the logic if that was the case.
Well there have been rumours since the start that Utd have been requesting medical reports from Juve and Chile about Vidal and his knee. So maybe there is more to it

Whereas with Strootman maybe its all very clear and they

Actually I cant be arsed finishing that post
 
Well there have been rumours since the start that Utd have been requesting medical reports from Juve and Chile about Vidal and his knee. So maybe there is more to it

Whereas with Strootman maybe its all very clear and they

Actually I cant be arsed finishing that post

You sound like Woodward preparing our transfer...
 
Some seem to think that if LVG is holding off on Vidal because of the knee and that it will lead to an inevitable move for Strootman. Strootman's injury is far worse than Vidal's. I don't understand the logic if that was the case.

What's even more baffling is that we are not making single move towards Khedira knowing 1) that he will end up leaving Madrid anyway, 2) that he doesn't have any injury concern at the moment, and 3) the German can help us immediately from the get-go when we need to go all guns blazing early on.

For me, it's simple: sign a sure value that is available on the market as we speak and then aim for either Vidal or Strootman later.
 
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How much will a medical tell us anyway? What do medicals actually look for?

Hargreaves passed a medical. Presumably Vidal could come through a medical but still end up spending more time on the table than the pitch. I mean, that is a risk for every player but presumably some players more than others. And it doesnt seem like a medical is a particularly effective way of reducing that risk, given the players with a history of problems who pass medicals and then go on to continue having problems. Such as Hargreaves when he joined us, Saha when he left us for Everton, Rodwell etc. Im sure if Arsenal were willing to sell Wilshere he would pass a medical, but would anyone expect him to stay fit for more than a month?
 
Has anyone any idea what we are waiting for?. What i mean is i understand we are weary about his knee but we are still interested supposedly so what are we actually waiting for to happen before we take this further?.
 
Has anyone any idea what we are waiting for?. What i mean is i understand we are weary about his knee but we are still interested supposedly so what are we actually waiting for to happen before we take this further?.

That's the problem nobody knows what is going on, if there is anything going on in the first place. Although we are expecting things to happen transfer wise in and out since LVG is back in Manchester now.

If anything is going to happen i think it will be when Juve come back from their pre season.
 
The interview has been reported in some parts of the English media, they've stayed away from the Vidal story anyway. This isn't a bullshit story, sorry if you're that sceptical you disbelieve an interview.

There is a reason they have stayed away from the Vidal story because it is mostly propagated by tabloids and or for more hits because of the sheer popularity.
 
Well there have been rumours since the start that Utd have been requesting medical reports from Juve and Chile about Vidal and his knee. So maybe there is more to it

Whereas with Strootman maybe its all very clear and they

Actually I cant be arsed finishing that post
:lol:
 
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