Arturo Vidal

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Just got optimistic about this one again after a few weeks of roller coaster of emotions towards this thread!

A fit Vidal with his work rate and tackling along with Herrera's work rate and tackling we'll be winning a lot of balls back before a team gets to break on us from a failed shot up front. :drool:


................De Gea
.......Evans..Jones..Blackett
Young.......................Shaw
..........Vidal......Herrera
................Mata
...........RVP......Rooney

Oh sweet jesus :drool:

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I know they say never to go full retard but I can't resist:

......................De Gea

............Jones..Hummels..Evans

Cuadrado.....Vidal....Herrera.....Shaw

........................Mata

.......... Van Persie......Rooney
 
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I know they say never to go full retard but I can't resist:

......................De Gea

............Jones..Hummels..Evans

Cuadrado.....Vidal....Herrera.....Shaw

........................Mata

.......... Van Persie......Rooney

Yes please! Come on Woody, this is a possibility if you stop being such a tease with your "watch this space" comments. We know you probably read this forum, give us muppets what we want!
 
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I know they say never to go full retard but I can't resist:

......................De Gea

............Jones..Hummels..Evans

Cuadrado.....Vidal....Herrera.....Shaw

........................Mata

.......... Van Persie......Rooney

To be honest if we get Vidal I'd rather just not drop our most solid CB and also not buy Cuadrado off the back of one good WC:

DDG
Jones Smalling Evans
Rafael Vidal Herrera Shaw
Mata
RVP Rooney
I guess I'm not really much of a transfer muppet. I just crave top CMs.
 
Found this quite interesting. It's an old Sport Witness article (16th July) but the below part about his knee is obviously particularly interesting now:
What is a little different is that they've spoken to Fabrizio Tencone who is the Juventus team doctor, presumably because they wanted to know about progress with Vidal's knee injury.

The midfielder had an operation on his knee in Barcelona on May 7th to solve a meniscus issue. That was just over a month before Chile's first World Cup match on June 13th. It was touch and go whether Vidal would start that match against Australia, he did but came off midway through the second half.

That wasn't Vidal's first match back. On June 4th he'd come on in the 76th minute against Northern Ireland.

Vidal played nearly all of the match against Spain, didn't come off the bench when not required against Holland, and then was substituted off in the 86th minute against Brazil. Chile would have liked him for longer against Brazil but Vidal didn't have the fitness and his country went out of the World Cup.

There have been murmurings about his knee since. Vidal was nowhere near his best and looked unfit. He'd played until just before the operation, it wasn't an emergency surgery, and he perhaps shouldn't have lacked so much match fitness.

El Mercurio reported at the weekend that Manchester United had asked Chile for Vidal's medical records to see what was being said about the midfielder's knee. There had been claims he was rushed back too soon.

The doctor who performed the operation, Ramon Cugat, said on his own website on the same day as the surgery (May 7th) that he had faith Vidal would be ready for the World Cup.

A Chilean website, Prensa Futbol, also quoted Cugat, who told them "World Cup? Only God knows, but we are confident that all will be well."

Yet on June 4th he was quoted by Terra as saying "I advise Vidal to not compete until two months after the operation, perhaps three if possible. Playing before that is hurrying him back and is a risk because the meniscus could tear again."

"You have to think about the World Cup. The country, the fans that are depending on him. We know it is something important that comes every four years, but sometimes an injury can leave you out of the oturnament. The player has an ego and wants to win, it is not up to me to stop him."

One outlook seemed optimistic and the other ultra-conservative. The optimistic comments were made just after the operation and the pessimistic ones just under a month later. Perhaps something changed in that time.

Juventus doctor Fabrizio Tencone hasn't been able to get Vidal's medical records from the Chile national set-up and told El Mercurio this when they contacted him "We have no news on the status of Arturo Vidal. Chile has not sent any report. To learn about the medical situation of our footballer you will have to talk to Dr Carcuro from the Chile squad, where he was last time. Not us, because we haven't been able to find out how his knee is.

"I can't answer if it was a risk to play at the World Cup. Sincerely, I'd rather not talk about it."

That Chile aren't automatically sharing information seems to have annoyed Tencone and he's touchy about the situation. There's every chance that Vidal had been advised, medically, not to play at the World Cup and doing so may have increased the chance of his meniscus tearing again.

Manchester United or any other club interested in buying the player would no doubt want to know what happened exactly. Whilst medicals at football clubs are thorough, they are not magic and the records of a player would still be taken into account.

Vidal had been carrying the injury whilst playing for Juventus last season. Surgery was delayed for over a month so he could help the Turin club win the title. That's never a sensible scenario.

Given what Manchester United have been through with players previously they'll be concerned about this but there's no magic wand of a medical that can see into the future and what may happen with his knee. If Chile are being awkward over the medical records, and it's not just Juventus having problems, than that would be worry.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...united-front-page-news-in-chile-but-knee-situ
 
Guys I'm not going overboard here but

---------------------da gea----------
----hummels -marquinos - Evans--
Rafael ---------------------di Maria
----------Herrera --Vidal---------
--------------mata--------------
----- ----- messi ----Ronaldo------

I honestly think we'd get back in top 4
 
Just got optimistic about this one again after a few weeks of roller coaster of emotions towards this thread!

A fit Vidal with his work rate and tackling along with Herrera's work rate and tackling we'll be winning a lot of balls back before a team gets to break on us from a failed shot up front. :drool:


................De Gea
.......Evans..Jones..Blackett
Young.......................Shaw
..........Vidal......Herrera
................Mata
...........RVP......Rooney

Oh sweet jesus :drool:

You forgot Smalling.
 
To be honest if we get Vidal I'd rather just not drop our most solid CB and also not buy Cuadrado off the back of one good WC:

DDG
Jones Smalling Evans
Rafael Vidal Herrera Shaw
Mata
RVP Rooney
I guess I'm not really much of a transfer muppet. I just crave top CMs.

I don't want to derail the thread but.... Smalling. He's a great defender but his ability on the ball is suspect. He's got some real adaptation to do.
 
Guys I'm not going overboard here but

---------------------da gea----------
----hummels -marquinos - Evans--
Rafael ---------------------di Maria
----------Herrera --Vidal---------
--------------mata--------------
----- ----- messi ----Ronaldo------

I honestly think we'd get back in top 4
I don't know mate, though we'd make a strong push for 5th with that lineup.
 
Yes, but he's been great on pre-season so far, so the adaptation seems to be progressing ok.

I missed chunks of many of the games due to work. When I did watch I thought he looked a little flustered. Actually thought Blackett looked calmer. Nice to hear some positive feedback. Terrific defensive ability as always though.
 
Guys I'm not going overboard here but

---------------------da gea----------
----hummels -marquinos - Evans--
Rafael ---------------------di Maria
----------Herrera --Vidal---------
--------------mata--------------
----- ----- messi ----Ronaldo------

I honestly think we'd get back in top 4

Nah, we'd get destroyed down our left with Di Maria leaving gaps. Da Gea would leak goals too taking up such a silly position in front of the post. Plus, I've never heard of him! Is he in the reserves?
 
I missed chunks of many of the games due to work. When I did watch I thought he looked a little flustered. Actually thought Blackett looked calmer. Nice to hear some positive feedback.

You'll generally find him quite high up the MotM rankings on the match-day threads. He was particularly authoritative and calm yesterday when the likes of Evans and Fletcher were inexplicably falling to pieces.
 
Guys I'm not going overboard here but

---------------------da gea----------
----hummels -marquinos - Evans--
Rafael ---------------------di Maria
----------Herrera --Vidal---------
--------------mata--------------
----- ----- messi ----Ronaldo------

I honestly think we'd get back in top 4

Perhaps but you imagine we would still finish behind the Brendan Rodgering machine, or so some might say.
 
Guys I'm not going overboard here but

---------------------da gea----------
----hummels -marquinos - Evans--
Rafael ---------------------di Maria
----------Herrera --Vidal---------
--------------mata--------------
----- ----- messi ----Ronaldo------

I honestly think we'd get back in top 4
Nah it'll take a few seasons before we can compete again.
 
I don't want to derail the thread but.... Smalling. He's a great defender but his ability on the ball is suspect. He's got some real adaptation to do.

last night who passed to who in our defense (first half) that fecked it up. I think it was smalling to jones. Will have to improve if it was
 
Think maybe Vidal would be for a 4-4-2 diamond?

---------De Gae ----------

Rafael Evans Hunmels Shaw

---------Strootman------------

Vidal-----------------Herrera

------------Mata--------------

----Rooney----------RVP------
 
Think maybe Vidal would be for a 4-4-2 diamond?

---------De Gae ----------

Rafael Evans Hunmels Shaw

---------Strootman------------

Vidal-----------------Herrera

------------Mata--------------

----Rooney----------RVP------

zero width in that
 
I've only just seen this:

Just need to wait for other media outlets to report it before I blow my load!

That guy has been clutching at straws the whole time as well. If he's finally admitted defeat, then I'm happy!
 
In all seriousness to you lot making daft lineups, we desperately need at least one more centre back too. All of our current 3 are decent players but they just lack quality and guidance or something. Mistake mine field back there.
 
What's actually wrong with his knee anyway?

He had a particular injury which wasn't serious but needed a proper rest to recover from it completely, but Chile rushed him back quickly due to WC. So there is a question mark now on how his knee is going to end up.
 
In all seriousness to you lot making daft lineups, we desperately need at least one more centre back too. All of our current 3 are decent players but they just lack quality and guidance or something. Mistake mine field back there.
If we are really playing 3 at the back we need at least two more
 
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