Arturo Vidal

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The Neviller said:
Yeah I thought it was happening, but the "reliable" press you talk about had a different take every day.

You're the one going on about these reliable sources when these guys didn't know dick about Herrera and reported "the most inevitable transfer we've had in years" as being off, on, stalled, on again, going to Chelsea, costing £7mil more than he did, and all other kinds of shite in between in the duration between us bidding and him signing out of the blue.

Are you willingly being stupid?
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Transfers are fluid, things happen, the Shaw transfer may have stalled, there may have been interest from Chelsea, they report what they hear from there sources, that's all they can do. In the case of Vidal the UK press did report it in the beginning when the story first broke, but pretty much all of them are now reporting there has been no contact.

And no I'm not stupid.
 
@Sarni agree Blind would be an ideal signing though. Can play DM, LB and understand the LWB position. Not a world beater but a very handy squad player.
 
Vidic and Evra were past it. Both are absolute legends of the club but both were weak links at times last season and we needed to move on.
 
Blair said:
If Vidal was indeed going to Carrington for a medical in a top secret transfer then he certainly wouldn't be ssat in the front seat of a fecking range rover looking straight at the paps.
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Exactly, he'd be hidden by a white sheet.
 
ehsanul said:
According to Ducker De Vrij was our number one target, and we know how it all end up.One thing is sure they don't have a clue.
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I dont recall Ducker saying he was "number one target". Ducker (and the others covering the tour) said he was on a list of players being considered.

Just because we didnt make a bid doesnt mean we were not interested - it means he wasnt a priority which leads me to believe that Hummels/Vermalen is more possible than most think.
 
RedSky said:
Ogden, Ducker and someone else on tour all said that De Vrij was one of four we were after. We know that there was no contact made with De Vrij, so either he was bottom of the pile and was going to be used as a last resort. Or the list we've fed the media is bullshit.
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Or we haven't fed the media shit, and they all sit together in the press pack spitballing about who we might be interested in and report it as fact.
 
I don't think we are giving any info whatsoever to the press this year. After last year's farce that is probably a good thing.

LvG said he was going to assess the players for 3 weeks & that is what he is doing, he would look a bit of a twat if we signed or sold players before the end of the tour. I would have thought things will get moving quite quickly once the tour is over (when are they due back in the UK, early next week?). I am sure a lot is going on behind the scenes anyway.
 
Matador8 said:
Why even bother to visit this thread, if all you're going to do is tell us all how it ain't happening?. Seems a little strange if you ask me.
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I've said many times in this thread I hope we sign Vidal, he's a top player, but on reading this thread I cannot see any credible evidence, but that's my opinion and I am entitled to voice it.

If you disagree, then fine, we can discuss it.
 
hebegebe said:
Transfers are fluid, things happen, the Shaw transfer may have stalled, there may have been interest from Chelsea, they report what they hear from there sources, that's all they can do. In the case of Vidal the UK press did report it in the beginning when the story first broke, but pretty much all of them are now reporting there has been no contact.

And no I'm not stupid.
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Yes, transfers are fluid, but if Shaw himself is to be believed is deal was all agreed before he went to the world cup, so none of the stuff the supposedly reliable guys were reporting was actually happening.

Look, I'm no more convinced this is on than you are, but it's clear these guys who are seen as reliable haven't had a clue what's happening at United this summer.

I don't think you're stupid, but I think you're being a bit daft if you're hoping for the likes of Ducker and co. to have the inside track on these things. They've been out of the loop all summer. What makes them more reliable than the Italian or Chilean press?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Why won't this goddam thread drop off the home page? There hasn't been a single bit of news on this transfer for several days now. Why does it keep getting bumped?

(It's because of posts like this one, isn't it? :nervous:)
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There was some guy yesterday, forgot username, who was ridiculing this thread reaching 400 pages without anything concrete. He has total around 700 posts and 100 of those are in this thread. That should answer your question I guess :)
 
The Man Himself said:
tbf, Evra said yesterday that there were 'personal reasons' behind him leaving. On Vidic, I think blame lies on Moyes in some way. Under a better manager and in usual conditions, getting Vidic to renew wouldn't have been a problem. He would have stayed. All these guys actually loved the club so negotiations were never much of issue and hence we didn't need to take up before they were due for negotiations.


btw, while typing Vidic in reply above, I typed 'Vidal' instead...twice... If this is not a indicator that he will join us then I don't know what is.
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Yeh apparently his wife wanted out or something. Either way, we've fecked up by letting them both leave.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Why won't this goddam thread drop off the home page? There hasn't been a single bit of news on this transfer for several days now. Why does it keep getting bumped?

(It's because of posts like this one, isn't it? :nervous:)
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Seriously, at this stage I say well over half the entire thread is discussing the thread itself.
 
RedSky said:
:lol: I could certainly see that as a possibility.
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I think it definitely happens, and I think it's one of the reasons why they all manage to run the same bullshit stories, with a few details tweaked here and there, at the same time.

And then everyone assumes it was briefed by the club.
 
Trizy said:
De Vrij came out himself and said several clubs showed interest but United was not one of them, thought Ducker was kinda reliable?
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Didn't Kroos say something along the lines of Utd was never an option, do you believe him?
 
Blair said:
If Vidal was indeed going to Carrington for a medical in a top secret transfer then he certainly wouldn't be ssat in the front seat of a fecking range rover looking straight at the paps.
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Such is the ego of the man.
 
feck it, I am off to read Indykaila, transfersources and agent_edward.
 
Carl said:
@Sarni agree Blind would be an ideal signing though. Can play DM, LB and understand the LWB position. Not a world beater but a very handy squad player.
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Basically our new O'Shea. How we could use O'Shea from 2006-10 right now...
 
Meh I enjoy the thread. It's like hanging onto a thread of hope.

It's missing some serious content the last few pages.

Can we have some stats? I wand tackles made, assists, goals from open play (he's pen taker) interceptions made, crosses made that didn't hit the first man. I want average running distances so I can compare him with Rooney (our current top) i want through ball attempts/ successes. Passing accuracy, average amount of back passes, lateral passes and key passes.

Anyone know where I can grab all that info rather than newspaper snippets.
 
Carl said:
Yeh apparently his wife wanted out or something. Either way, we've fecked up by letting them both leave.
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I don't think thats the case tbh. We need 1 experienced CB either to be a starter (would have to be world class like Hummels) or to be backup to Smalling/Jones/Evans.

Left back imo we're ok. Shaw and James look like they'll push each other all Season and that's a good thing, keeps them both sharp.
 
Carl said:
Yes, 3rd priority. Herrera is class and at least to partner him we have decent players in Fletcher, Carrick and Cleverley (yes, Cleverley!). It;'s not ideal but I never said it was, I said it was serviceable. In defence we have 3 CBs and 1 LWB. We have absolute zero cover unless we're plucking them from the youth team.



Dress it up in whichever way you like, those 2 players left when it was needless to let them go. Vidic should have never been allowed to enter the last year of his contract and we could have point blank just refused to let Evra go.
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You want to keep an unhappy player just for the sake of it? LVG wanted squad harmony straight away, when he came in. If Evra was going to be a problem, then selling him now made a lot of sense. As for Vidic, it was time to cut our losses, we needed younger Defenders, hanging on to him would have been as bad as hanging on to Scholes and Giggs. We saw how that destroyed the state of our midfield.
 
hebegebe said:
I've said many times in this thread I hope we sign Vidal, he's a top player, but on reading this thread I cannot see any credible evidence, but that's my opinion and I am entitled to voice it.

If you disagree, then fine, we can discuss it.
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That's fair enough and i respect that. I just get the feeling you put too much faith in what Journo's are reporting in regards to United's transfer activity this summer. If you look at the way we've completed the Mata/Hererra deals for instance, we've pretty much used agents as our mouthpiece to the respective selling clubs, which i think is happening with the Vidal deal. United are pretty much in stealth mode after last seasons nonsense, so any UK tabloids theories become redundant. That's unless we need them for something that might benefit the club of course.
 
Reus just killed off any possible move away from the club.
Vidal has done nothing of the sort. If it was only rumours he could have.
 
Matador8 said:
That's fair enough and i respect that. I just get the feeling you put too much faith in what Journo's are reporting in regards to United's transfer activity this summer. If you look at the way we've completed the Mata/Hererra deals for instance, we've pretty much used agents as our mouthpiece to the respective selling clubs, which i think is happening with the Vidal deal. United are pretty much in stealth mode after last seasons nonsense, so any UK tabloids theories become redundant. That's unless we need them for something that might benefit the club of course.
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I think you are 100% right there Matador! No one knows what the feck we are doing this season (journo wise)
 
The Neviller said:
Yes, transfers are fluid, but if Shaw himself is to be believed is deal was all agreed before he went to the world cup, so none of the stuff the supposedly reliable guys were reporting was actually happening.

Look, I'm no more convinced this is on than you are, but it's clear these guys who are seen as reliable haven't had a clue what's happening at United this summer.

I don't think you're stupid, but I think you're being a bit daft if you're hoping for the likes of Ducker and co. to have the inside track on these things. They've been out of the loop all summer. What makes them more reliable than the Italian or Chilean press?
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Fair enough, the thing is they know more than us and they obviously have sources close to the club, so to some extent that's all we have. I agree there is so much noise coming out of Chile and Italy something is happening, but until those close to the club start to join in I won't get too excited, like I have said many times I hope we sign him, he's the type of quality we should be looking to sign.

I Guess the Muppet in me isn't very strong.
 
hebegebe said:
Fair enough, the thing is they know more than us and they obviously have sources close to the club, so to some extent that's all we have. I agree there is so much noise coming out of Chile and Italy something is happening, but until those close to the club start to join in I won't get too excited, like I have said many times I hope we sign him, he's the type of quality we should be looking to sign.

I Guess the Muppet in me isn't very strong.
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Do they? I would have thought that their inability to correctly predict anything that's happened this season (not a sniff of Herrera, telling us Shaw was off at a time when we now know the deal was already done) suggests that they don't have valid sources at the moment.
 
RedStarUnited said:
You want to keep an unhappy player just for the sake of it? LVG wanted squad harmony straight away, when he came in. If Evra was going to be a problem, then selling him now made a lot of sense. As for Vidic, it was time to cut our losses, we needed younger Defenders, hanging on to him would have been as bad as hanging on to Scholes and Giggs. We saw how that destroyed the state of our midfield.
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That bit about Vidic is absolute garbage. He is still absolute quality and would still walk into this team.
 
5 pages since 7.30 this morning? Any movement or our we still 'preparing'?
 
The Neviller said:
Yes, transfers are fluid, but if Shaw himself is to be believed is deal was all agreed before he went to the world cup, so none of the stuff the supposedly reliable guys were reporting was actually happening.

Look, I'm no more convinced this is on than you are, but it's clear these guys who are seen as reliable haven't had a clue what's happening at United this summer.

I don't think you're stupid, but I think you're being a bit daft if you're hoping for the likes of Ducker and co. to have the inside track on these things. They've been out of the loop all summer. What makes them more reliable than the Italian or Chilean press?
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Seems like this is true - Utd (or Woodward to be specific) are using the manchester hack pack differently this summer. Not that i think Vidal will happen but there are similarities in the denial of the mata deal.

Nobody knows what's going on cause the en masse leaks/briefings have stopped. God knows what will happen this month
 
Brightonian said:
Do they? I would have thought that their inability to correctly predict anything that's happened this season (not a sniff of Herrera, telling us Shaw was off at a time when we now know the deal was already done) suggests that they don't have valid sources at the moment.
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I'm not suggesting they have a hotline to Woodward, but they must be getting information from somewhere, I know they have to sell papers at the end of the day but I doubt they all just make it up.
 
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