Arturo Vidal

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Raoul said:
I still am a transfer muppet. Its ok to be one as long as you don't take it seriously.
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Agreed man..

But to the doom & gloomers; whats not to love about the potential of great players coming to the club - its a fantastic buzz for the fans.

Every club fan loves the potential of new players coming in, which will improve their team. You just gotta remain level-headed with these reports & tweets etc. though.

Its a soap-opera most of the time & if anything, it always draws Caf members back on here, that have somewhat disappeared for a good while - so thats a great thing.
 
Lynk said:
€60 million euros is the fee reported, that's £47.5m sterling
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That would be very interesting indeed - if accepted then that would put us squarely between Torres and Tevez on the record British transfer fees list :eek:

Really can't see us bidding that much, but Juvi would be very brave (stupid?) to turn that down.
 
Cee90 said:
Mata was a bit part player for Chelsea that season and was not the best #10 at the time either so your point is rather irrelevant.

Yes, we know he is a good player but you make him sound like he was at the top of his game playing for the best club in the world.

Let's be clear here, Chelsea wanted to get rid of him. With that in mind, we should have got him for less than £37 million.
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Chelsea were willing to get rid of him for the right price. There was no need to get rid of him - Jose would have been more than happy to keep him on the bench for the rest of the season if necessary. Actually he probably wishes he had, given how Oscar's form plummeted soon after they sold Mata.

Two years as Chelsea's best player and the best #10 in the league (well, joint best with Silva). Mourinho comes in and drops him for half a year because he preferred more flexible, hard-working and defensively solid players. Nothing wrong with that, but it had nothing to do with Mata becoming a worse player suddenly or losing form or anything like that. It was a tactical decision.

You'll find yourself in a small minority if you think we overpaid for him.
 
Vidal has already come out and said he wouldn't be moving to United didn't he? If he didn't want to say anything he could of just said "I don't know where I'll be" when asked about United..It sounds to me that he will be leaving Juve but not to United, maybe Real Madrid!
 
Cee90 said:
Mata was a bit part player for Chelsea that season and was not the best #10 at the time either so your point is rather irrelevant.

Yes, we know he is a good player but you make him sound like he was at the top of his game playing for the best club in the world.

Let's be clear here, Chelsea wanted to get rid of him. With that in mind, we should have got him for less than £37 million.
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He was their double player of the year two years in a row. Chelsea only wanted rid because Mourinho has a need to prove his authority by jettisoning/sidelining one of his new clubs better players. See every club he's been at.
 
Jammydodger7 said:
Vidal has already come out and said he wouldn't be moving to United didn't he? If he didn't want to say anything he could of just said "I don't know where I'll be" when asked about United..It sounds to me that he will be leaving Juve but not to United, maybe Real Madrid!
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He wasn't asked if he was signing for United.
 
Cantonaaa! said:
Well, if he can get us into the CL again he will save the club for yearly losses of around £40-50m according to this:
http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/26981223


And then there are shirt sales and sponsors. So I think he would be worth it. If you believe we will qualify without him then my reasoning won't help how you feel.
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There's no doubt in my mind we will be in the CL next year with or without Vidal. The real question is whether or not signing him would land us the league.
 
Raoul said:
There's no doubt in my mind we will be in the CL next year with or without Vidal. The real question is whether or not signing him would land us the league.
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Vidal is unquestionably one of the best CMs (for me he is the best) in the world and by far the most complete and he is worth every penny however nothing could guarantee us getting the league even if we got Vidal, Hummels and Di Maria or which ever players we want. There are issues about players fitting into the system and how it will work against PL teams and many other factors like injuries, the form of other teams etc.

That being said IF we get Vidal we will go back to having one of the best midfields in the country and thats with just the sheer quality of Vidal and Herrera. I am not raising my hopes up at all for this one will go mental if it happens but wont be arsed if it didnt.
 
Raoul said:
There's no doubt in my mind we will be in the CL next year with or without Vidal. The real question is whether or not signing him would land us the league.
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I personally don't think we will win the league with him unless a player like Di Maria also comes to give us a dimension in attack that we're missing right now.
 
Adnan said:
I personally don't think we will win the league with him unless a player like Di Maria also comes to give us a dimension in attack that we're missing right now.
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We'd have a right fecking chance with Vidal and Herrera in there, Mata Rooney and RVP up top and Van Gaal as manager. I agree I wouldn't say we will do it though, because Chelsea look a real strong team this year and we looked miles behind City last time.
 
Adnan said:
Thoughts of our friends from a Italian speaking Juve forum, "I hope that the wife of Arturo insists on wanting to stay in Turin"

http://www.vecchiasignora.com/topic...cide-lo-united-offre-60-milioni/page__st__280
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They seem to be of the opinion that an offer of 60 mil EUR you've got to accept, but that Juve management would only squander it on shit players.

This post on there made me :lol::
J21 said:
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Quite a few seem to think he's leaving, since they feel he hasn't silenced the rumors by committing properly to their club.
 
Offside said:
We'd have a right fecking chance with Vidal and Herrera in there, Mata Rooney and Mata up top and Van Gaal as manager.
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You could be right but I don't see a player who can beat 2-3 players consistently with a dribble like Di Maria in our squad. Di Maria is a game changer like he showed in the UCL final.
 
Adnan said:
I personally don't think we will win the league with him unless a player like Di Maria also comes to give us a dimension in attack that we're missing right now.
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I think Di Maria would be as or possibly more influential than Vidal, especially if Herrera settles in as quickly as it appears he may.
 
Adnan said:
You could be right but I don't see a player who can beat 2-3 players consistently with a dribble like Di Maria in our squad. Di Maria is a game changer like he showed in the UCL final.
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Agreed. But he will cost shitloads and would he fit into our new formation?

By the way I meant Mata, Rooney and RVP. For some reason I said Mata twice.
 
Offside said:
We'd have a right fecking chance with Vidal and Herrera in there, Mata Rooney and Mata up top and Van Gaal as manager. I agree I wouldn't say we will do it though, because Chelsea look a real strong team this year and we looked miles behind City last time.
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Yeah I agree, that new cloning booth van Gaal has introduced at Carrington should work wonders for us next season.
 
Lynk said:


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Huh, discreet was the last thing you would label them as the Vidal saga, if I am not wrong they were the ones constantly linking us with him with that other Italian newspaper tittosports as well...
 
The Neviller said:
He was their double player of the year two years in a row. Chelsea only wanted rid because Mourinho has a need to prove his authority by jettisoning/sidelining one of his new clubs better players. See every club he's been at.
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Sorry Nev, but thats absolute nonsense man.

Mourinho wants his teams to be physical - he did that with his 1st spell at Chelsea, the same at Inter & then had the Real fans turning against him because of the physical style of football he had Real play..

He got rid of Mata because Mourinho wants all his players to get stuck in / track back. Sure, he publicly riled Hazard last season because of that & said as much about Mata, regarding the dropping of Mata for most of the 1st half of last season..
 
Whilst a front three of Mata, Rooney and RVP might not possess the pace, width or dribbling ability it makes up for it in technique, intelligence, speed of thought and sheer quality as well. Moreover, if we have Herrera and Vidal in midfield they would provide enough penetration when combined with our pacy wing backs as well. I don't think di Maria is essential unless we plan on changing our formation to 4-3-3 where di Maria would be phenomenal in a midfield trio of Vidal, Herrera and himself.
 
Offside said:
Agreed. But he will cost shitloads and would he fit into our new formation?

By the way I meant Mata, Rooney and RVP. For some reason I said Mata twice.
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I believe LVG would go with his preferred 4-3-3/3-4-3 if he could get Di Maria.
 
Adnan said:
I personally don't think we will win the league with him unless a player like Di Maria also comes to give us a dimension in attack that we're missing right now.
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There's holes all over squad & those issues need to be addressed this window if we want to get top 4.

Top 4 is bollox for a club like United anyway. 1st should always be the aim..
 
Red Hand Devil said:
Sorry Nev, but thats absolute nonsense man.

Mourinho wants his teams to be physical - he did that with his 1st spell at Chelsea, the same at Inter & then had the Real fans turning against him because of the physical style of football he had Real play..

He got rid of Mata because Mourinho wants all his players to get stuck in / track back. Sure, he publicly riled Hazard last season because of that & said as much about Mata, regarding the dropping of Mata for most of the 1st half of last season..
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It's not nonsense at all. That might have been the reason he used, but it was a Mourinho ego trip, and nothing more. He has previous for this shit.

Why did he only slate Hazard and not get rid of him?
 
I think this United bid might be to put pressure on Strootman to try force through a move given that Roma have taken such a hard stance on him.
 
Offside said:
We'd have a right fecking chance with Vidal and Herrera in there, Mata Rooney and RVP up top and Van Gaal as manager. I agree I wouldn't say we will do it though, because Chelsea look a real strong team this year and we looked miles behind City last time.
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Those players wont play every game together this season. Its a rarity we get a clean bill of health & also because of drop in form or to combat the opposition using different options..

Its a squad game & ours has many holes in it..
 
When all the journo's came out with "No contact united not interested" i imminently thought thats a brief to avoid the fabregas situation from last year. Club is very interested, he's the marquee star we need and woodward wants. if we went to 40m pounds, hes ours i reckon.
 
The Neviller said:
It's not nonsense at all. That might have been the reason he used, but it was a Mourinho ego trip, and nothing more. He has previous for this shit.

Why did he only slate Hazard and not get rid of him?
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Agreed that his ego is through the roof man, but what players did he get rid off - in the same mould as Mata, at the likes of Inter & Real? I cant think of any in fairness Nev..

You must have heard the rumours about Fergie being involved in the Mata transfer - aswell as a 3rd party helping out too? Glazers wanting a more hands on approach & helping Ed etc as he found his feet..

Then there's also the rumours that Mourinho sold Mata to us, so to help us hurt the other teams competing for the title - as we didnt have to play Chelsea again?

Anyway, we all love a good aul conspiracy theory - yours is a great one i might add :D
 
Jammydodger7 said:
I think this United bid might be to put pressure on Strootman to try force through a move given that Roma have taken such a hard stance on him.
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If we could get both Vidal & Strootman (with Herrera already here) - our CM in a 4-3-3 or a 4-3-1-2 would be the best CM in the world after a settling in period.

3 box-box CM's that can do it all - is the ultimate muppet dream..

Why do i put myself through it ffs :D
 
Red Hand Devil said:
If we could get both Vidal & Strootman (with Herrera already here) - our CM in a 4-3-3 or a 4-3-1-2 would be the best CM in the world after a settling in period.

3 box-box CM's that can do it all - is the ultimate muppet dream..

Why do i put myself through it ffs :D
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I think we'll get Vidal, not sure about the Stroot though.
 
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