I'm getting the impression that very few people in here have actually watched Vidal. Don't know why I just realize this after 271 pages though.
Arturo Vidal
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I think more than a few people have at least watched some World Cup games.
Agreed. Some people are acting as if he's this one-dimensional midfielder. He's so talented offensively and defensively that it would be impossible for LVG not to put him in a position where he'll be effective for the team. He's the most complete midfielder in the world.
I wasn't really referring to some world cup games, especially since he played a different role for Chile than he did the whole season for Juve. He's a defensive beast and also great offensively, he can do everything, the complete midfielder, he would fit into every midfield and now after a good performance from Herrera in a 3-4-1-2 we suddenly don't need him anymore?
Of course it's dependant on who we sign for CB to predict on how we will line up the coming season, but I think we'd all (most) prefer a 4-3-3 to a 3-4-1-2 as it's just (if you play it right)more offensive. Dependant on the opposition we'd line up Carrick/Fletcher behind Vidal-Herrera or Mata ahead of them. It's just perfect.
You don't just have to have 11 players. You need subs also. Vidal can easily play as the holding midfielder when needed. If we played someone like Carrick, having to choose between 2 of Herrara, Vidal and Mata would be ideal.
He will be perfect for us. Not only he will be good partner for Herrera but also they will be a cover for each other if one i injured or need a rest.
Some muppets instantly felt that he is not right player for us anymore after Herrera display today but if they would watch Herrera before they would notice that he can play more defensively too as can Arturo. They can switch between one bombing forward and other staying deep and we will be more upredictable this way.
If you look at our midfield options it is quite obvious that we need world class midfielder alongside Herrera and Vidal will be perfect. It is possible that we sign one DM too alongside Vidal too.
Some muppets instantly felt that he is not right player for us anymore after Herrera display today but if they would watch Herrera before they would notice that he can play more defensively too as can Arturo. They can switch between one bombing forward and other staying deep and we will be more upredictable this way.
If you look at our midfield options it is quite obvious that we need world class midfielder alongside Herrera and Vidal will be perfect. It is possible that we sign one DM too alongside Vidal too.
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I agree I think Herrera can be our scholes type and Vidal the new Keane, with Mata just behind a striker/s, in big matches they could have a DM behind them.
It was just a joke and a bit of sarcasm mate. I am sure no one with a brain would consider those players a big signing, even if we over pay for them.
BTW, i would love to have Blind at United as a cheap signing to cover multiple positions
I've made this point before but I don't think you'd need to bring in a DM for the big games. Just reshuffle and ask Vidal to play a more disciplined DM role.
That's what you get when you bring in the best midfielder in the world, the flexibility to go toe to toe with the best opposition while keeping your best players on the field.Question for me is not Vidal but rather Carrick as he's probably not mobile enough
Come on, Woody, I'm tired of waiting. We need Vidal's sass soon.
41 min gap in the vidal thread.
You have all given up
You have all given up
Exactly. Roy Keane wasn't a defensive midfielder. He was a box to box midfielder who just happened to be extremely good at the defensive aspect. Just like Vidal.
Ah. If we got Blind cheap then fair enough. Personally, I don't think he is particularly good, and especially at the kind of prices being talked about. I wouldn't rate him any better than Cleverley for example. A couple of good assists for RVP during the World Cup doesn't mean he is top drawer.
"Ass" surely?
Vidal's back on Monday, isn't he? If there'll be a move, surely it will be done by next week so? I am skeptical there is one but I can still dream.
Carvalho, Vidal and Ander Herrara? That would be amazing. I can only see us signing one more top quality midfielder though, if that.
No idea where everyone's optimism is coming from, a few unreliable Italian and Chilean reports doesn't make it a done deal. These reports have just put the fact we're still weak in central midfield and the fact that Juventus have question marks over their finances together and created this rumour.
Never believed it's on and still don't, hope I am wrong though. Him and Herrera would be fantastic.
Never believed it's on and still don't, hope I am wrong though. Him and Herrera would be fantastic.
Vidal, there is an ultimatum. And a United fan calls
The Chilean is ending the holidays and is always at the center of the market. Tevez said he should stay, but the Manchester force time. Juventus wants that everything is decided in a week, in one way or another
TURIN - (ee) Carlitos Tevez has called a "phenomenon" that we should not let go. Arturo Vidal, however, the market remains in limbo. Juventus can not resist a mega offer over 40 million, Manchester United is going to give the assault. But in Turin want everything to be resolved quickly, in short, there is a sort of ultimatum in one way or another, we do everything in a week, not to drag too much and do not put barriers to the market. The midfielder should return from Chile, the agent Fernando Felicevich has already placed Alexis Sanchez Arsenal and now wants to bring King Arthur in the Premier. Bisognerò see if the price is right. Meanwhile, a fan of Manchester United, and America beat the LA Galaxy 7-0 in a friendly, has led to stage a banner clear: we Vidal. Almost a petition to Van Gaal. The Juventus fans, however, want the warrior remains at Juventus to try to go far in the Champions League. These are crucial days, the great choice.
http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/se...ama?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
The Chilean is ending the holidays and is always at the center of the market. Tevez said he should stay, but the Manchester force time. Juventus wants that everything is decided in a week, in one way or another
TURIN - (ee) Carlitos Tevez has called a "phenomenon" that we should not let go. Arturo Vidal, however, the market remains in limbo. Juventus can not resist a mega offer over 40 million, Manchester United is going to give the assault. But in Turin want everything to be resolved quickly, in short, there is a sort of ultimatum in one way or another, we do everything in a week, not to drag too much and do not put barriers to the market. The midfielder should return from Chile, the agent Fernando Felicevich has already placed Alexis Sanchez Arsenal and now wants to bring King Arthur in the Premier. Bisognerò see if the price is right. Meanwhile, a fan of Manchester United, and America beat the LA Galaxy 7-0 in a friendly, has led to stage a banner clear: we Vidal. Almost a petition to Van Gaal. The Juventus fans, however, want the warrior remains at Juventus to try to go far in the Champions League. These are crucial days, the great choice.
http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/se...ama?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I wouldn't want Blind as a starter but as backup for a reasonable price I wouldn't mind. Shaw is very young, we have to be patient and careful with him. The problem is that the price seems to be not reasonable. Eveything > 10m would be too much.
Vidal and Herrera looks like they need a CDM behind them rather than a Mata ahead of them (at least in big games) but no question that we should go for Vidal if there is a possibility.
I think Vidal and Herrera is a central midfield duo would be wonderful. Both can get about the pitch, both can tackle, pass and shoot.
Ideal.
(I don't think we'll be signing Vidal though)
Ideal.
(I don't think we'll be signing Vidal though)
Depends who comes available surely. Carrick could miss the next 3 months and this season he shouldnt be auto starter anyway and if he is it should be his last season as such. If Reus does move I'd like to think we'd move for him likewise with Vidal. They are so different its hard to think its one or the other.
Strootman?
I think Strootman would be an alternative to Vidal rather than an addition, he plays a similar box to box role.
Now people are talking sense. I was about to chip in with the Scholes Keane combination but some wise folk beat me to it. Vidal is a complete midfielder and in such defends and attacks will equal talent. I have watched many a Juve game and he does put himself about. I understand to a degree why people believe we need a defensive midfielder but I honestly think with a quality CB signed i.e Hummels but much more likely De Vrij or Vermaelen we will be solid enough.
Obviously this is all muppet speculation and team line ups but the amount of ball this team would have and the chances it would create would imo see us topping the team goal scoring charts for sure. Yes we may concede a few but if we are winning who cares. Also we'd have the likes of Januzaj, Kagawa, Welbeck on the bench to chop and change.
-----Rooney-----Van Persie
------------Mata
--------Vidal----Herrera
Shaw--------------------Rafael
-----Evans---De Vrij--Jones
-------------De Gea
I could also see us reverting to four at the back (4312) if we signed Strootman next window or summer. Not that I'm asking for much!
If he is the complete midfielder, why in the hell would juventus even think of letting him go? and that is the problem with getting him.
of course that is why we haven't signed him yet because they want to keep their best asset along with Pogba or get as much money as possible (or we do not even want him).
Why did we let Ronnie go, ridiculous fee and the fact he wanted to play for Madrid. If and a huge if Vidal tells Juve he wants to leave they will sell him.
They need funds. They missed out on both Iturbe and Sanchez because they couldn't afford to pay the transfer fee.
Quiet few days.
Don't be an anti-muppet.
It is a well documented FACHT that Juve need the money, have Pogba up and coming as a younger midfield prospect and have Vidal at the perfect age (27) to cash in!
DONE DEALIO
Almost as quiet as the week leading up to the Herrera transfer and look what a success he has been here!More a Isla replacement than one for Vidal.
I was supposed to post that in the twitter discussion thread.
Difference is? ronaldo wanted to go there badly, I do not think vidal has that same determination to leave juve, and that is the problem. Plus Madrid always get what they want, which is something we never seem to do
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