In a world where Neymar cost £60 million and Gareth Bale cost £90 million (ballpark figures), I would snap Juve's arm off for £40 million
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I'd snap their hand off at £60m.
I agree. As a CM he's in the world's elite. As an all round midfielder, he's the best there is. £60m isn't even close to being overpriced.
Going a bit far, in my opinion. Serie A is the easiest big league for a midfielder to shine in. Slower pace, more time and space on the ball, and almost always a true three-man midfield (three CMs, not two CMs and a #10). There are few obstacles to looking impressive when you play next to Pirlo and Marchisio.
Don't get me wrong - he's a superb midfielder, up there in the top tier at the moment. But he's allowed to look even better than he is by his role in a comfortably best-in-the-league team, with two great CMs next to him and a generally more sedate, cerebral style of play which means his work-rate stands out more than it would in the PL.
£40m I'd bite their hand off. £50m would be a good price. £60m I wouldn't actually complain, because in my view if the club is willing to spend the money, why should the fans worry about it? But it would still be more than he's worth. I don't think you can use the Bale/Neymar type transfers as a comparison, because they're clearly part of a very different spending model than we use, despite our financial muscle.
Modric is an instructive example. So many on here refused to accept that he was a top midfielder, or even that he had the potential to be, before he moved to Madrid. It was insane, from my perspective, because he clearly already had the tools to do it all. I couldn't believe there were so many who didn't want us to even try and sign him. This season, he's been the best midfielder in the world. That's because he's gone into a side who are vastly superior to the vast majority of opposition sides they play. He has superstars in every position around him, and he's in a league where he really stands out because he combines the technical excellence demanded of all players in a top La Liga side with the sort of physical robustness, energy and mental grit picked up playing in the PL.
Vidal moving from Juventus to United could easily end up being an exact inversion of that pattern.
That's purely my instinctive reaction to the idea that £60m for him would be some kind of bargain, anyway.
EDIT: Actually, feck all that, I reckon when it comes to the few players who could not just improve our CM but actually make it a strength I'd be willing to see us spend whatever. Simply because we should arguably have spent £30-40m on it twice over the last five or six years, and that's the 'damage' we're looking at. So I withdraw all of the above!
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This one has been manufactured just because Fergie was sat next to Conte. Had he been next to Mazzari for instance it would be the Kovacic or Guarin threads getting attention. Not to say the club wouldn't be interested in a top talent like Vidal but it doesnt mean that picture means we are after him. Its like Muller and Robben with LVG, theres connections there so the press add 2 and 2 together
Yep, no actual reason to believe this is or even could be on the table. Just transfer season fluff.
Won't happen, but this move would be incredible.
Most Prem games:
--------RVP/Rooney---
Janujaz--Kagawa-Mata
-----Vidal----Carrick/New CM
Tougher games:
--------RVP/Rooney---
Janujaz-----------Mata
-----Vidal----NewCM
--------Carrick--------
He'd be brilliant as one of 2 CM's behind 4 attacker (like Yaya for Citeh) or as one of the 2 more advanced CM's in a 3 man midfied when we need the numbers. I'd be overjoyed even if he was our only signing this summer and we had to sell either RVP or Rooney to afford the absurd wages we'd have to pay to get him.
Most Prem games:
--------RVP/Rooney---
Janujaz--Kagawa-Mata
-----Vidal----Carrick/New CM
Tougher games:
--------RVP/Rooney---
Janujaz-----------Mata
-----Vidal----NewCM
--------Carrick--------
He'd be brilliant as one of 2 CM's behind 4 attacker (like Yaya for Citeh) or as one of the 2 more advanced CM's in a 3 man midfied when we need the numbers. I'd be overjoyed even if he was our only signing this summer and we had to sell either RVP or Rooney to afford the absurd wages we'd have to pay to get him.
Carrick should be noewhere near the starting XI an entirely new midfield required.
We paid 27m on the big haired guy. 36m is a steal.
Fergie said he'd never heard of him, guess we weren't looking at the Bundesliga all that closely at the time.
Vidal is better suited to our league than any of the other CM's we have been linked with IMO and would add some desperately needed energy and bite to our midfield.
I'd be really surprised if we sign 3 CM's, so I expect Carrick to play as the holding DM when we play the Dutch 4-3-3 under Van Gaal, which I presume we will do at times in certain, tougher games.
Fletcher could turn back into 2010 Fletcher I suppose, or Fellaini, Cleverley or even Anderson could get back on track under Van Gaal, but I'd bet on Carrick first, since at his best he's been better than any of those other guys.
The problem being is that modern DM require a huge engine and great mobility, essentially they are the stop gap when fullbacks are forward, Carrick just doesn't have that.
£40m + Nani would be a good deal for both parties IMO.
Better for us though
Better for us though
Is this even a possibility? I mean wow, a bid for Vidal Sassoon after the Shaw bid? :-)
Exciting times and if we get both that could only be half of the supposed 'warchest'
I agree with this. If any of our CM was moved on I wouldnt but too upset football wise. It would only really be Fletcher who I would be sorry for due to his career being ruined by illness.
That's too much imo, you'd be pricing Vidal at 50-60 million!£40m + Nani would be a good deal for both parties IMO.
Better for us though
I understand that he is a fantastic player but we need to be cautious and shouldn't go splashing ridiculous amounts of money. We could end this window spending hundreds of millions which is a lot of money!
Why are people so sure we are even after him?
Vidal? Speaking personally it's more hope than expectation he's a dream signing.
He absolutely is a dream signing. Just curious as to why people think we are even looking at him.
Ferguson was seen talking to Conte. That seems to have been where everything grew from.
The best players cost the most money I'm afraid.
And it makes no difference to me if United spend £30m or £50m on a player, it's not my money and not my concern.
I don't think we have even a small chance of signing him. He'd be utterly perfect for us but I just can't see it happening.
My post was purely so I could use my lame Vidal Sassoon joke :-)
Because every Transfer thread needs a Youtube.
Precisely. We will only spend what we can afford. If we we bid £50-£60 million on a player or end up spending £200 million in total this summer it will be because our very clued up money men have ok'd it.
Indeed. You'd think the Chief Exec at one of the worlds biggest sporting brands would know how to handle the clubs cash better than gimps on an internet forum.
I think Juventus have a really good reason to sell.
Roma did ok this season, but its so hard to see anybody overtaking any time soon. Juventus just seem so much stronger than the rest.
They already have a solid midfield. A team good enough to win the league by a margin, yet a team that will probably do 'okay' in the Champions league with no massive expectations.
If they can get 50/60m for a player at 27, why not? They have a luxury of being comfortably better than the teams around them, that they could easily invest that money on some younger, up and coming talents, and easily feed them into the the first team, with little risk of losing their position at the top of the tree. Pogba is already being introduced, and the transition can be so much smoother than it would be in England. Teams at the top really cannot afford to blend in youngsters while fighting for the title as the competition is so fierce.
For them reasons, I could quite easily see Juventus selling him, as it wouldn't really effect them enough to lose the Serie A title in my opinion, yet, they won't win the CL anytime soon.
That being said. I rate Vidal highly, and was quite gutted when he moved to Juventus in the first place. I would still love to see him in a United shirt, but the fee being mentioned is huge.
Although he is class, and is definitely one of the best players in his positions, players coming from the Serie A worry me. I can't think of many, but over the last 10 years or so, most, if not all players who have come from Italy have failed.
Veron, Crespo, Shevchenko, Maccarone, Balotelli (Fair enough it was his attitude rather than his quality). I have probably missed some obvious players who have come and done really well, but I cannot think of any of the top of my head
Roma did ok this season, but its so hard to see anybody overtaking any time soon. Juventus just seem so much stronger than the rest.
They already have a solid midfield. A team good enough to win the league by a margin, yet a team that will probably do 'okay' in the Champions league with no massive expectations.
If they can get 50/60m for a player at 27, why not? They have a luxury of being comfortably better than the teams around them, that they could easily invest that money on some younger, up and coming talents, and easily feed them into the the first team, with little risk of losing their position at the top of the tree. Pogba is already being introduced, and the transition can be so much smoother than it would be in England. Teams at the top really cannot afford to blend in youngsters while fighting for the title as the competition is so fierce.
For them reasons, I could quite easily see Juventus selling him, as it wouldn't really effect them enough to lose the Serie A title in my opinion, yet, they won't win the CL anytime soon.
That being said. I rate Vidal highly, and was quite gutted when he moved to Juventus in the first place. I would still love to see him in a United shirt, but the fee being mentioned is huge.
Although he is class, and is definitely one of the best players in his positions, players coming from the Serie A worry me. I can't think of many, but over the last 10 years or so, most, if not all players who have come from Italy have failed.
Veron, Crespo, Shevchenko, Maccarone, Balotelli (Fair enough it was his attitude rather than his quality). I have probably missed some obvious players who have come and done really well, but I cannot think of any of the top of my head
If he is indeed available then we should go all out for him. IMO he is the very best in his position and would be an incredible signing for us.
Introduced to what, it's been a while since he's a proper starter now.
If we can realistically get him then I want Chile out in the group stage or hope he does not play any part. Although his recovery is said to have progressed earlier than expected, its never a good idea to come back straight in the team so soon. It will have an impact on his fitness later on, and for what he'll cost we don't need our very own Kaka.
I probably worded that wrong. What I meant was, he was put into the team, and worked in. He could take over Vidals spot in the team if he was sold, then just get another promising star, and hope they progress they way Pogba has
Thank goodness you boys aren't in charge
Have you seen him play? Have you seen how bloody good he is? He's exactly the style and quality we need and there isn't a single player on this planet that would suit us more right now. £60m would be a bargain.
Shit has gone really quiet on the Vidal to United front
Would be good to see him here sometime sasoon
Shit has gone really quiet on the Vidal to United front
Saw Miguel Delaney linking us to him earlier, if that cheers you up.
Shit has gone really quiet on the Vidal to United front
Cos he will never play for United.
Ever!
Shit has gone really quiet on the Vidal to United front
that's the way it is... the Fergie-Conte pic put to fly the imagination of quite a few.
Now that LvG has been confirmed, we will know for sure if we are for him or not. Of course he will want new players and Vidal might be one of those. After all, he already suffered him in the Bundesliga (cost him the job in a way).
But the reality is that only Barcelona has been linked... Luis Enrique wants him (another one that suffered him in serie A) and it seems Alexis might be involved in that operation. Double fecking us.
but hey... money talks. who knows... im of the opinion we where never in for him, but if we are, please...
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