Arsenal - 2024/25

I never want to hear that Lego prick Arteta complain about decisions going against his team ever again. That left back should have been sent off today and fk me, 7 mins of added time???

That nwanieri kid looks a player though.
 
I feel like we really need an away win over City and Liverpool, mentally it'd do wonders in terms of confidence. We have drawn twice at Anfield without winning so I am hoping this is the year.

Leicester lost to you but still won the league. The likes of Mourinho, Sir Alex have won title after title after taking a point in these types of games. The other 34 games always dictates everything.
 
I never want to hear that Lego prick Arteta complain about decisions going against his team ever again. That left back should have been sent off today and fk me, 7 mins of added time???

That nwanieri kid looks a player though.

Skipp and Ndidi also could have been sent off, if they send off people like that then it will be 9v10 all games.
 
We won't win the league if we keep mucking up at home. Got very lucky today even though deserved it but better teams will punish us for lapses in concentration.

Noone can win the league by being so careless at home.
You are not going to win the league, not with that coward negative football. Liverpool will do you too, they play to win.
 
Crazy match. Their keeper made some excellent reflex saves from close range. Very happy to escape that one, especially after city dropped points
 
Nwaneri is a gem in the making. Hope Arteta gives him more chances. The good thing about Arteta is that once he is convinced of the quality of a player, he will persist will him.

Martinelli needed his goal badly today. Decent couple of games from him and it is something to build on.

Made that way more difficult than it needed to be with a bit of poor finishing....also Leicester seem to use up their luck today. That was some strike though.
 
You are not going to win the league, not with that coward negative football. Liverpool will do you too, they play to win.
Have you forgotten who you support? The absolute balls on you to be criticising another team for playing negative football :lol:
 
Nwaneri is a gem in the making. Hope Arteta gives him more chances. The good thing about Arteta is that once he is convinced of the quality of a player, he will persist will him.
Hard to believe he's only 17 years old and he looks so confident and comfortable in pressure situations. He was great against bolton and came on today and had a better impact than Sterling. Really really exciting player that's such a good dribbler in tight space.
 
Have you forgotten who you support? The absolute balls on you to be criticising another team for playing negative football :lol:

What’s the fact that the team we support play negative football got to do with our ability to call your team out for playing negative football? Make it make sense please, thanks.
 
What’s the fact that the team we support play negative football got to do with our ability to call your team out for playing negative football? Make it make sense please, thanks.
Do Arsenal play negative football most of the time (as in, when not playing away at the winner of four of the last five titles with 10 men)?

Give your head a wobble.
 
I never want to hear that Lego prick Arteta complain about decisions going against his team ever again. That left back should have been sent off today and fk me, 7 mins of added time???

That nwanieri kid looks a player though.
If anyone was lucky not to be sent off it was Skipp. One of his 3 bookable offences could have been a straight red card.

How could you have watched that game and thought Calafiori's two very soft challenges merited a red but Skipp's didn't?
 
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You are not going to win the league, not with that coward negative football. Liverpool will do you too, they play to win.

Don't mind pool winning it if it's not arsenal, at least they are proper football club unlike oil and Russian cheats.
 
You are not going to win the league, not with that coward negative football. Liverpool will do you too, they play to win.
76 touches in Leicester's box. 36 shots, 16 of those on target. 75% possession.

Coward negative football alright. And don't say you were talking about the City game as your reply was to a comment about this game.
 
If anyone was lucky not to be sent off it was Skipp. One of his 3 bookable offences could have been a straight red card.

How could you have watched that game and thought Calafiori's two very soft challenges merited a red but Skipp's didn't?
Ndidi also kicked the ball away on a free kick when he was on a yellow. Normally wouldn’t care but with it being called against Arsenal in consecutive games, then it needs to be called on Leicester
 
Leicester had some dark arts if their own going in this one. I get it, wish we didn't do it, but when a team does it against us, they don't seem to be called out for it. And Newcastle fans....do you watch your own games? Talk about shithousery/negative tactics
 
Given them a lot of shit for the poor performances despite the results so far. Were really good today, would have been a travesty if they hadn't won. Can't account for a wonder goal like the equalizer. Was a 5 or 6-1 game that nearly went wrong.
 
Given them a lot of shit for the poor performances despite the results so far. Were really good today, would have been a travesty if they hadn't won. Can't account for a wonder goal like the equalizer. Was a 5 or 6-1 game that nearly went wrong.
Yes, it was one of those games that almost cost us points, because it was not quite working out. Bit of sloppiness coming out in the second half. I find we are often a little weak during that period.

I am not sure we were all that great, at least I was expecting a bit better, just because who we were playing. Still, not a bad weekend. In the end most of what matters is getting the points and we did certainly create a reasonable amount, which was refreshing to see after weeks of slumming it a bit on the attacking side of things.
 
Don't mind pool winning it if it's not arsenal, at least they are proper football club unlike oil and Russian cheats.
Your entire foundation was built on a promotion you "earned" while not finishing in the promotion places.
 
Impressive the number of brand new WUMs that pop up in this thread every few days. Now we even have a Newcastle fan from Turin, will wonders never cease.
 
Yes, it was one of those games that almost cost us points, because it was not quite working out. Bit of sloppiness coming out in the second half. I find we are often a little weak during that period.
Yes: the 45-60 period frequently hurts us. If there is a lingering legacy of Wenger's worst, it lies in being too slow to adapt to the game when we need to.
 
That’s how you play Man City, not like a bunch of cowards and parking the bus. I like Arsenal as a club, but Arteta has spent the most in world football in recent years, you guys should expect better.
Has he?
 
I liked the ref's decision not to give a red card to Calafiore, Skipp or Ndidi. Way too many soft red cards recently.
Oliver and Kavanagh would have dished out 1 red card to each team today.
 
What’s the fact that the team we support play negative football got to do with our ability to call your team out for playing negative football? Make it make sense please, thanks.
They have scored the second-most goals for two seasons in a row and created the most big chances this season, despite playing away against Spurs, Villa, and City.
 
How rude and condescending towards presenters is that Julian guy off AFTV, just out of interest what do Arsenal fans think about him
 
This may sound like im a jealous United fan because of their rise to title contenders level recently but i genuienly believe that Arteta is a bang average manager.

He is very lucky to have Edu because almost like Ten Hag, he picks deadwood from his ex club as a copy & paste method of rebuilding his ex club. Zinchenko,Gabriel Jesus & now Sterling.

He is also very lucky to have Pep because he copies & pastes his tactics.

Pep plays almost 4 cbs which allows them to have 3 widely spread CAM &a CEntral cm to provide creativity for Haaland.

Arteta has copied peps back 4, but is playing with inverted forwards so nearly all their creativity has to come from nearly one central area of the pitch with Havertz, Rice & Odegaard which becomes both predictable & also effects their defense if Rice & the cb fullbacks are/is up top as a creative outlet for them.

Honestly, they might scrape a Pl win depending on how much Rodri effects City, but i wouldnt be too surprised if they didnt.

Being set piece specialists can only take you so far, inverted forwards with 4CBs in defense will catch them out. I think Citys creativity trumps Arsenals but we can see when both De Bruyne & Odegaard are back.
 
Given them a lot of shit for the poor performances despite the results so far. Were really good today, would have been a travesty if they hadn't won. Can't account for a wonder goal like the equalizer. Was a 5 or 6-1 game that nearly went wrong.
The poor performances being playing against Spurs (and winning 3 times away in a row first time in 50 years which even Wengers team couldnt do aaginst dire Spurs sides) while missing our entire midifled and without them actually doing anything with the ball then playing 10 men against the most dominant team in Europe for 45 mins, defending.

We also won at Villa playing okay, but I don't remember anyone feeling sorry for us last year when we lost at Villa despite missing countless chances.

Last year the only teams we played defensively against away were City (where you had one shot on target) and United. That's it.

I get your point but "poor performances" have been massively overblown where we had to play park the bus when severely comprised.


This may sound like im a jealous United fan because of their rise to title contenders level recently but i genuienly believe that Arteta is a bang average manager.

He is very lucky to have Edu because almost like Ten Hag, he picks deadwood from his ex club as a copy & paste method of rebuilding his ex club. Zinchenko,Gabriel Jesus & now Sterling.

He is also very lucky to have Pep because he copies & pastes his tactics.

Pep plays almost 4 cbs which allows them to have 3 widely spread CAM &a CEntral cm to provide creativity for Haaland.

Arteta has copied peps back 4, but is playing with inverted forwards so nearly all their creativity has to come from nearly one central area of the pitch with Havertz, Rice & Odegaard which becomes both predictable & also effects their defense if Rice & the cb fullbacks are/is up top as a creative outlet for them.

Honestly, they might scrape a Pl win depending on how much Rodri effects City, but i wouldnt be too surprised if they didnt.

Being set piece specialists can only take you so far, inverted forwards with 4CBs in defense will catch them out. I think Citys creativity trumps Arsenals but we can see when both De Bruyne & Odegaard are back.
@TheBigLewandowski Arteta used CBs as full backs before Pep did (happy to be corrected on this). We also conceded the least amount of goals last year and scored the most depite not having a what you call out and out striker. So not sure how the 4 CBs thing will catch us out regarding creating chances. Yesterday as well it was Timber who made our first goal.

As for him copying Pep, every other manager is also free to do so. This is how football has evolved. Managers taking inspiration with their own imprint. We don't play like City at all.


How rude and condescending towards presenters is that Julian guy off AFTV, just out of interest what do Arsenal fans think about him

@croadyman I have never seen AFTV, I feel like opposition fans watch it more than we do. I find them a cringefest.
 
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Scored a lot of goals this season that could have been ruled out perhaps? Thought the Vardy incident before the first goal should have probably been a foul.
 
Scored a lot of goals this season that could have been ruled out perhaps? Thought the Vardy incident before the first goal should have probably been a foul.
It could have been ruled out, it would have been extremely soft but no qualms against it had it been, as far as I know VAR said it was a 'different phase of play' hence didn't rule it out (from what I remember listening to the commentators). I also remember a Leicester playing not getting a red for 3 straight bookable offences. There is no real consistency in refereeing decisions.
 
This may sound like im a jealous United fan because of their rise to title contenders level recently but i genuienly believe that Arteta is a bang average manager.

He is very lucky to have Edu because almost like Ten Hag, he picks deadwood from his ex club as a copy & paste method of rebuilding his ex club. Zinchenko,Gabriel Jesus & now Sterling.

He is also very lucky to have Pep because he copies & pastes his tactics.

Pep plays almost 4 cbs which allows them to have 3 widely spread CAM &a CEntral cm to provide creativity for Haaland.

Arteta has copied peps back 4, but is playing with inverted forwards so nearly all their creativity has to come from nearly one central area of the pitch with Havertz, Rice & Odegaard which becomes both predictable & also effects their defense if Rice & the cb fullbacks are/is up top as a creative outlet for them.

Honestly, they might scrape a Pl win depending on how much Rodri effects City, but i wouldnt be too surprised if they didnt.

Being set piece specialists can only take you so far, inverted forwards with 4CBs in defense will catch them out. I think Citys creativity trumps Arsenals but we can see when both De Bruyne & Odegaard are back.
Reading the rest of your post, there's no "may" about it.
 
There are mini incidents that could have been a foul.. were not called or were in a different phase. People complaining about a free kick taken too quickly, a foul not given, a foul throw...I am not too sympathetic if the action was considerably beforehand. If you have virtually all your players behind the ball at various times before the goal is scored, it is your defending or lack thereof that allowed the goal. It's the thing now with VAR, we look far back....hey we lost the ball there half a minute ago, and then they scored.

It might have been a foul by Saliba, but there was ample opportunity for Leicester to defend it. There are missed calls for free kicks during any game. It's not VAR's job to start reviewing play a reasonable time before the goal.
 
AFTV is a disaster. They are supposed to have 1 million subscribers, but I have no idea if Arsenal supporters in masses watch it. It is probably more rival fans listening in to have a laugh.
 
This may sound like im a jealous United fan because of their rise to title contenders level recently but i genuienly believe that Arteta is a bang average manager.

He is very lucky to have Edu because almost like Ten Hag, he picks deadwood from his ex club as a copy & paste method of rebuilding his ex club. Zinchenko,Gabriel Jesus & now Sterling.

He is also very lucky to have Pep because he copies & pastes his tactics.

Pep plays almost 4 cbs which allows them to have 3 widely spread CAM &a CEntral cm to provide creativity for Haaland.

Arteta has copied peps back 4, but is playing with inverted forwards so nearly all their creativity has to come from nearly one central area of the pitch with Havertz, Rice & Odegaard which becomes both predictable & also effects their defense if Rice & the cb fullbacks are/is up top as a creative outlet for them.

Honestly, they might scrape a Pl win depending on how much Rodri effects City, but i wouldnt be too surprised if they didnt.

Being set piece specialists can only take you so far, inverted forwards with 4CBs in defense will catch them out. I think Citys creativity trumps Arsenals but we can see when both De Bruyne & Odegaard are back.

1. You realize arguably everyone "copies and pastes" Pep's tactics these days? We could name all the successful managers from the CL and top 5 European leagues + Eredivisie from the past 5 years, and for 90% of them it would be true.

2. I thought Arteta used 4 CBs before Pep did?

3. What's wrong with using "inverted forwards"? Especially with Havertz being able to "facilitate" play and help out the likes of Saka, Martinelli, etc? If Pep didn't have Haaland, he would be doing the same thing. He let the likes Sterling, Palmer and Mahrez go only after getting Haaland, and now has ball retention wingers (Grealish, Bernardo) and low-block breakers (Savio, Doku). Also, Grealish could be used as more of a goalscorer IMO but for the same reason (it's not required), he doesn't do it.

His winger options are mostly influence by what Haaland needs IMO, and it's based on how to get the most out of him. Foden is the only player for them IMO that sometimes plays out wide and his main objective isn't keeping the ball + feeding Haaland when the opportunity arises.
 
This may sound like im a jealous United fan because of their rise to title contenders level recently but i genuienly believe that Arteta is a bang average manager.

He is very lucky to have Edu because almost like Ten Hag, he picks deadwood from his ex club as a copy & paste method of rebuilding his ex club. Zinchenko,Gabriel Jesus & now Sterling.

He is also very lucky to have Pep because he copies & pastes his tactics.

Pep plays almost 4 cbs which allows them to have 3 widely spread CAM &a CEntral cm to provide creativity for Haaland.

Arteta has copied peps back 4, but is playing with inverted forwards so nearly all their creativity has to come from nearly one central area of the pitch with Havertz, Rice & Odegaard which becomes both predictable & also effects their defense if Rice & the cb fullbacks are/is up top as a creative outlet for them.

Honestly, they might scrape a Pl win depending on how much Rodri effects City, but i wouldnt be too surprised if they didnt.

Being set piece specialists can only take you so far, inverted forwards with 4CBs in defense will catch them out. I think Citys creativity trumps Arsenals but we can see when both De Bruyne & Odegaard are back.
Arsenal quite clearly havent just copied City though? Im not sure many clubs try and replicate Peo’s football at all, because it requires huge financial outlay which is unrealistic. Most coaches copy the Hennes guys, not Cruyff, LVG, Pep etc. in my opinion these days.

Last season Arsenal were much more defensive and it worked, if you think that with Michale Oliver Arsenal would have won the title. They spread goals around the team and iirc were top scorers for the league.
 
Scored a lot of goals this season that could have been ruled out perhaps? Thought the Vardy incident before the first goal should have probably been a foul.

That's one of those decisions as a visiting team that gets waved away if you don't get 30-40k shouting at the ref. See it endlessly, Vardy would've got the foul if that was a home game.

Calafiori also very lucky, that's a standard yellow stopping a counter so to me the ref just didn't want to send another Arsenal player off after all the moaning in the media about the last two reds. That's how a manager can get in a ref's mind pre match.
 
That's one of those decisions as a visiting team that gets waved away if you don't get 30-40k shouting at the ref. See it endlessly, Vardy would've got the foul if that was a home game.

Calafiori also very lucky, that's a standard yellow stopping a counter so to me the ref just didn't want to send another Arsenal player off after all the moaning in the media about the last two reds. That's how a manager can get in a ref's mind pre match.
Califiori was fortunate with the potential second yellow, but caution he picked up wasn’t even a foul. The Leicester play ran alongside him and fell into him, so he shouldn’t have been on a yellow in the first place.
 
Califiori was fortunate with the potential second yellow, but caution he picked up wasn’t even a foul. The Leicester play ran alongside him and fell into him, so he shouldn’t have been on a yellow in the first place.

On a yellow it was an incredibly stupid challenge to risk though and 9/10 you get a second yellow for it.

Calafiori is a quality player on the ball but he does feel a bit slow for top end premier league if it's a basketball type match so interested how he adapts as the season goes on and picks up more yellows.
 
AFTV is a disaster. They are supposed to have 1 million subscribers, but I have no idea if Arsenal supporters in masses watch it. It is probably more rival fans listening in to have a laugh.
Can't imagine rival fans watching it for a laugh nowadays ( because Arsenal are actually good).
 
Arsenal quite clearly havent just copied City though? Im not sure many clubs try and replicate Peo’s football at all, because it requires huge financial outlay which is unrealistic. Most coaches copy the Hennes guys, not Cruyff, LVG, Pep etc. in my opinion these days.

Last season Arsenal were much more defensive and it worked, if you think that with Michale Oliver Arsenal would have won the title. They spread goals around the team and iirc were top scorers for the league.
Agree, you cannot quite play Pep football without the large scale investment behind it. You dont want decent players, you need great ones, and depth.
 
What’s the fact that the team we support play negative football got to do with our ability to call your team out for playing negative football? Make it make sense please, thanks.
Because Newcastle beat us last year using the same "cowardly, negative football" we used at City. I don't remember hearing any of their fans criticising that style of play then so it's a bit rich to be doing it now.