Hideous. I can only hope Martinez and Garnacho weren’t involved, or they’ll have lost my respect completely.
Argentina players singing racist chant targeting French players after Copa America final
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Licha and Garnacho may or may not have participated in the chants, but i dont see them in the video above. You can obviously see Enzo and maybe another one or two (dont want to speculate), but for the rest, you cannot tell. Unless there is more footage.
I’m so disappointed in both of them. Luckily we don’t have Varane or Kambwala here anymore or thing would be be very awkward
He's also a history with tax fraud - Our very own fans are all too eager to call Sir Jim a cnut amongst other many names and he hasn't been convicted of anything.
„Unfortunately“ is not the word, I‘d use. He is singing a racist song. Nothing unfortunate about him getting fined/suspended/fouled at the next Chelsea practice.
Messi apparently stayed in Miami because of the injury and didn’t travel in the team bus. At least that’s what I’ve read.
It's not like we're trying to sign a black french player from Lille or anything
All good. I didn't mean to say that those things are the same, of course.
But, group of 20-30 people celebrating a huge win, emotions are high, probably little bit drinking; by the noise and atmosphere i doubt that only these 4 or 5 idiots on video are singing.
This is terrible. He has to go now. It’s not like Enzo has been a world beater for them too, they should should get rid.
I have watched the video 5 times, but i dont see Garnacho at all. Licha maybe at the back on the left standing at the window, but hard to say, as the quality is not good and they all look similar with their short haircuts on the sides/back nowadays.
Literally dodged a bullet and massive issue here if that’s the case.
Hope they get the punishment they deserve - whoever partook in it.
That's racist
Currently, there’s zero evidence that they were involved.
They have zero control over there teammates actions so at present they are guilty of nothing.
Nothing to do with race, footballers in general.
What idiots, how stupid do you have to be to know that this is wrong?
Not sure he's fast enough for that.
He's not going anywhere with his 25 years contract. I suspect FIFA will fine the Argentine FA and suspend Enzo for a few games. The PL will probably do the same but he will be back playing by September/October
Yeah, I don’t like the leap to “they were all together so everyone must be guilty of singing it” on such a serious issue. If there’s evidence of it, by all means, throw the book at them and give them the deserved punishment.
If it’s the trump shooter, he might not need to move to dodge it anyway!
New thread? Getting serious then
That's footist.
From this video, definitely. No evidence that anyone other than Enzo himself was singing it.
But you can hear the voices in the background - there's more. You don't know who else is singing, but you know this is a group chant. You can infer this is not the first time this chant's come up, either. So while there may be no legal action against our duo, there will certainly be questions asking if one of those voices was theirs. As there should be.
I guess the context I meant it is that whoever was involved (and I imagine there are a lot) all deserve equal punishment, but Enzo is currently the only one where the evidence lies.
But yes, severe punishment is needed.
feck. I forgot about the kid Yoro.
Is it really that Racist? They start by making fun of his sexuality with the trans model, then question how French he really is. Obviously, born and raised in France but is it any different from all the German jokes with all the Austrians and Poles that represent them etc
Yes.
That's not a thing and only ever brought up by racists
And the award for stupidest post of the day goes to...
There's no evidence whatsoever they were singing that song. The video is grainy as feck. I can't even see and identify Garnacho and Martinez during the first part of the clip.
Most importantly, the racist song starts at around 34 seconds (the last 10 seconds) and that part was even more blurry.
Amazingly not even the worst in this discussion so far. The one with the terrorist/freedom fighter post is hard to top.
The following is the translation of the song (it seems):
"Listen, spread the word;
They play in France, but they are all from Angola;
How nice it is! They are going to run;
They are 'cometravas'*, like fecking Mbappé;
Their mom is Nigerian;
Their dad, Cameroonian.
But in the document ..Nationality: French".
*cometravas is a slang term that loosely translates to someone who likes fecking transgender people.
The above is transphobic for sure which makes it quite distasteful. The heat that this video gets should be about this.
But, Racist? Are we sure?
"Listen, spread the word;
They play in France, but they are all from Angola;
How nice it is! They are going to run;
They are 'cometravas'*, like fecking Mbappé;
Their mom is Nigerian;
Their dad, Cameroonian.
But in the document ..Nationality: French".
*cometravas is a slang term that loosely translates to someone who likes fecking transgender people.
The above is transphobic for sure which makes it quite distasteful. The heat that this video gets should be about this.
But, Racist? Are we sure?
- Could this be more of a mocking of how France poaches players and talents from all over Africa and yet "we" beat them?
- Is the premise of the chant any different from the one used by Trevor Noah for this segment? Did Africa Just Win The World Cup? | The Daily Show With Trevor Noah (youtube.com)
- When USA beat Pakistan in the T20 cricket world cup. Many were joking about how India's H1B team (and not USA) beat Pakistan. Is the Argentina song about the nationality of the player's parents any different?
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There are German jokes?
Any wider of the mark and you start up front for Uruguay
Not even getting into the rest of your post, but that's not how they start. You missed the second line despite quoting it. It's not just about Mbappe. And it's certainly not about his nationality.
That's the "that's not a thing" partThere are German jokes?
Messi gone for five minutes and everything falls apart
That's the "that's not a thing" part
Maybe you should ask Wesley Fofana.
Many Argentinians have their roots in other countries they just happen to be mostly white countries so it's fine because their families came from Italy, Spain, Germany etc.