The Suarez case never "ended" if we're using the same criteria. Racial abuse is a crime in the UK, and Suarez was never charged. He is innocent until proven guilty, as we've heard so often.
Antony under investigation by Brazilian authorities for domestic abuse | Inquiries ended | Back in the squad
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The Suarez case never "ended" if we're using the same criteria. Racial abuse is a crime in the UK, and Suarez was never charged. He is innocent until proven guilty, as we've heard so often.
Man, I have no idea if he Is guilty or not but how unlucky do we have to be to have this again 2 years later.
United haven't done anything to undermine that principle - it would be hyperbolic in the extreme to even suggest this.
Do we want to adopt a siege mentality in a case where our player might be found guilty in a court of law of having done some horrible stuff?
I really don't think so.
If the courts cleared him of wrongdoing and everyone would still give us shit for playing him or even standing by him, it's a different matter.
Liverpool were pretty stupid to do what they did, if you ask me. Sure it brought a lot of their fans together, and made Suarez feel loved. but he was found to have used s racist slur repeatedly, and also left them a short while afterwards...
I actually wonder how many of them are happy with how their club acted in retrospect.
Imagine that being what you take from MeToo.
As a fanbase we are more aware than if it were another player at another club imo. Everything is relative to your fanbase.
One player! The player who was charged and loaned out after the charges were dropped. Because the audio where he forced his penis onto someone who didn't fancy it, while making threats, made some members of the club and fans feel weird.
The other one is allowed extra time off to clear up whatever he is dealing with.
Decent Liverpool fans were never happy about it. They found it embarrassing (at best).
Yes, of course. But we do objectively have one of the largest fanbases in the world. Hence the profile, hence the media attention, hence the spotlight and all the rest of it.
Word of advice when seeings social media content regarding Antony
Skil the comment section
Youtube, twitter, facebook... just skip the comment section.
Skil the comment section
Youtube, twitter, facebook... just skip the comment section.
People have to remember that the atrocious way we handled ourselves in the MG case is still fresh in everybody's minds.
If Antony's case was "a first" for us, there's a chance that the route of Leave-of-Absence will have been chosen much later, if at all.
There's also a chance that Antony himself asked the club for some time off [if indeed he's already in Brazil this supports that angle).
We didn't suspend him, not on paper and maybe not behind the scenes.
I also don't like to think that we (or other clubs) are intending to suspend players based solely on accuasations.
Luckily we didn't suspend him
If Antony's case was "a first" for us, there's a chance that the route of Leave-of-Absence will have been chosen much later, if at all.
There's also a chance that Antony himself asked the club for some time off [if indeed he's already in Brazil this supports that angle).
We didn't suspend him, not on paper and maybe not behind the scenes.
I also don't like to think that we (or other clubs) are intending to suspend players based solely on accuasations.
Luckily we didn't suspend him
No way, he literally said in an interview that not playing for United had not crossed his mind. The club gave him an ultimatum, he accepted it.
The PFA had representatives at United last week to discuss the case, right?
Bit of speculation here, but just connecting the dots, I wonder if the decision to give Antony a "leave of absence" rather than a suspension was driven in part by union protections, given that as of now he hasn't been arrested or charged with anything.
Bit of speculation here, but just connecting the dots, I wonder if the decision to give Antony a "leave of absence" rather than a suspension was driven in part by union protections, given that as of now he hasn't been arrested or charged with anything.
r/Incels is elsewhere not here.
The incel is strong with this one
My biggest worry about Antony is how are we going to replace his 3 assists in 43 appearances?
So when are the other teams players involved in such scandals going to get the same media attention.........
You definitely have a lush neckbeard.
Stop stalking me, it's weird. My opinion is different to yours, it's fine.
He said “having his contracted terminated” never crossed his mind
Watch out, I've got a warning for sharing a similar sentiment.
Is this satire? If not, you have a very warped view of reality. There is no need for such hate in your life, get a grip.
Saudi window is still open lads. We can make this all go away tomorrow.
I believe that the club may have been cursed by the lady stalking Mason Mount.
On a side note, I would like the next statement to be preceded by Holly Willoughby taking a deep breath and asking me if I am okay.
At this point i think it will be best for everyone if they do not get further involved in this case. Authorities from two countries are dealing with the evidence and we have to trust them to do their job. Everything beyond that is pure speculation and witch-hunting regardless of who people "support".
I think 99% of us would have been happy if it had been a private process. It's the airing it in the media, and subsequent firestorm resulting in suspension that has some of us riled. If we simply learned one day that Antony was guilty or innocent of an investigation, personally I'd have no problem with that at all.
Antony is not an award-winning actor, I've chosen to believe him after this interview. The way he responds to questions is way too improvised yet confident to be lies.
No it’s not.
I mean, it feels like a catch 22 when you put it like that.
Ironically the most emasculated person was this guy.
Taking a leave should be the correct protocol when it's come to the stage that police are involved.
Is this Matt Le Tissier?
Comes across as truthful, the story never changes.
The amount of stories that turned out to be false was a lot.
I genuinely think it might be the actual Matt Le Tissier, and I’m not even being sarcastic.
In fact, I reckon it was him.
Mods unban him, please, if only for the pure bizarre comedy of having Matt Le Tissier on redcafe calling everyone ‘woke’.
Without knowing all the facts it's hard to say if I believe him or not but definitely there was a lot of real emotion in that video.
just because you do not agree with my post doesn’t allow you to insult someone opinion.
Now I’ve seen the video and I don’t believe Anthony has the gile to pull off any sort of acting. Looks and sounds genuine.
remember these young boys are the golden egg for many people that are no saints. He might have been badly advised or whatever. It looks like someone revengeful enough to take him to the cleaners. Again just my opinion no need for name calling
"A lot" doesn't sound particularly scientific. Can you be more specific/accurate?
He can't.