I was making the point that was accepted as genuine because he did not do that (as you say it would seem farcical to deny it)
Antony under investigation by Brazilian authorities for domestic abuse | Inquiries ended | Back in the squad
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Some think Rachel Riley is the reason Greenwood doesn't play for us anymore.Why do people slate Rachel Riley when her opinion is one that has been shared multiple times in this thread?
It's utterly bizarre.
Whether we voice our opinion on the situation on this forum, or whether she voices her opinion on her social media - they are both out there for people to read. Because she's a celebrity with more audience she can't have a view on things - or more specifically not one that matches a cohort of people on a team's fan forum?
Maybe I'm being naive here and don't know something about Riley's past that I don't know about, but RedCafe's opinion on her during the Greenwood and now Antony debacle is a strange one in my eyes.
She's firmly against the 4-2-3-1 set up as well, and favors inverted wingbacks.
I want some answers that Rachel Riley might not have right now.
It'll defintiely be an interesting one. Obviously teenagers (or just past) say awful stuff to each other during breakups - I hardly think emotional text messages are worth releasing to the public from her side.
Antony (probably under advice from his lawyers) has cooperated with relevant law-enforcement and is not saying anything around the details.
It's a pickle for me. On the one hand, victims have to be taken seriously and allegations need to be investigated. On the other, releasing 'evidence' to tabloids as opposed to letting the justice system work sets off a few alarm bells. And I know the stats, but what would you now have Antony do if, say, he did nothing wrong?
Antony (probably under advice from his lawyers) has cooperated with relevant law-enforcement and is not saying anything around the details.
It's a pickle for me. On the one hand, victims have to be taken seriously and allegations need to be investigated. On the other, releasing 'evidence' to tabloids as opposed to letting the justice system work sets off a few alarm bells. And I know the stats, but what would you now have Antony do if, say, he did nothing wrong?
Its not Utd, its the toxic social media around the club.
Where is Jaaaa?!?!?!Isn't there a code of conduct baked into the contracts both players and the club sign, that translate what the club values into the actions players should take and should not infringe upon, that clearly outlines the commitment to honest and ethical behavior, acting with integrity, and complying with applicable laws, rules, regulations and policies?
If so, that's the rule book. Anyone doesn't fall within that standard of professional conduct on and off the pitch is in conflict. Anybody that does fully meets the standards set out by club's employment handbook.
And that my friends should be the message to anyone outside that think, hope or has plans to pressure the club into taking actions that differ with their views.
If so, that's the rule book. Anyone doesn't fall within that standard of professional conduct on and off the pitch is in conflict. Anybody that does fully meets the standards set out by club's employment handbook.
And that my friends should be the message to anyone outside that think, hope or has plans to pressure the club into taking actions that differ with their views.
United career I probably agree with. I'm not 100% sure though. I just don't have much faith in the club anymore to make the correct decisions.
I guess some feel she talks too much? That say something but I cannot be bothered to dissect it.
But seriously why is she the target of so many posters?
I personally don't care and find her support for the Tories much more deplorable.
All in all, bit of a sad existence to get so wound up about a celebrity having an opinion.
I don't call people names, demonstrate a high level of misoginy and in some rare cases thinly veiled bigotry because someone talks too much. Those people have serious issues that are beyond Football.
Still no comment by the club to not even recognise there's a police investigation ongoing?
No. The social media posts were in February from something that supposedly happened the previous September.
I wonder how much clubs would have to pay in "Wrongun" insurance.
"Hi insurance co, it's happened again, can we get 80million back please".
Clubs would have to put £10-20m a year into it the way its going!
Good on people with a platform for calling stuff out.
If Melissa from Wigan moaned about it on tiktok, chances are it wouldn't have the same weighting.
How the heck is she a nasty piece of work for goodness sake!? Get some balance.
Her anti Labour rhetoric was dangerous in the last election also. She’s a Tory.
He never went to jail and the charges were dropped so you're arguing an Aunt Sally. They stopped playing him because the videos and pictures completely destroyed his public image. Nobody wanted to cheer for him.
He means she called out the Corbynistas for anti-semitism. Good on her for doing it.
Anyone who supports the Tory party is most detestable cnut imaginable so, no.
Fully agree.
Probably a case of her wanting money out of him. He’s admitted they both verbal abused each other but he said he hasn’t physically abused her. If there’s no evidence then it’s a case of innocent until proven guilty.
Don't disagree.
Some people on here have some weird ideas and the Greenwood and this thread have really made that quite clear.
So kudos to her that we got rid of him.
I didn't know about her until recently so I have nothing against her, but calling out someone before he was even charged or anything being proved is idiotic from her and I can see how people got annoyed in this case. If she has a big influence, she should know better.
Mason case was different with public audio evidence right from the start etc.
Anyway, I can easily see Mount taking Antony's place if he gets suspended, especially with Amrabat here now.
Some of the comments here today are fecking vile.
Why does this club attract the wrong uns?
Is it the scouting not doing their homework and not really finding out about the player or do they start playing for utd and suddenly get big headed and develop a do you know who I am attitude?
Pretty embarrassing right now.
Is it the scouting not doing their homework and not really finding out about the player or do they start playing for utd and suddenly get big headed and develop a do you know who I am attitude?
Pretty embarrassing right now.
She called Jeremy Corbyn a racist. A man who has never once made a racist comment and who has spent his entire career fighting against discrimination. She's a detestable person.
I hope that guy was banned, what an awful take. Not least because it distracts from the (unfortunately) common examples we have of when this kind of thing does happen. I don’t know if there’s a ‘worst post of the day’ gadget on here, but he’s won it.
What annoys me about her was her reaction to Johnny Depp after his trial. If she’s to be taken seriously she has to be sensitive to both scenarios, not simply say Johnny Depp still did it and Amber Herd is an innocent victim.
It just doesn’t sit right. She absolutely rinsed him even after he went through all he went through
The club doesn't really attract wrong uns, the proportion of problematic players is fairly small. We are talking about a couple of individuals out of maybe 40 or 50 in the past 2 or 3 years. Also all clubs at all levels and in pretty much all sport have bellends, generally things are done discreetly enough that only ITKs or a random accounter at night will expose things.
I don’t like her politics one bit, but we live in a society where high profile people are more likely to have their views latched on to by the media. She’s entitled to take a stance, and if the media report it then more power her, I say.
If you have a beef to pick here it’s surely with the media not the individual.
Just admit you disagree with what she said and so now she’s fair game for you to attack.
Sometimes violence can be worse than rape. You could cave someone’s head in with a hammer for example.
He apparently smashed her fingers up and head butted the woman.
That’s serious violence it’s not like a slap to the face and regret it afterwards like some couples.
I know zero people who have headbutted a woman that’s for damn sure. That’s like go to jail behaviour is it not?
Went for 2 days on remand if I recall correctly.
It's really really weird, the amount of hatred in here for Rachel Riley posting something relatively innocuous on twitter, which then got picked up and sensationalised by the rag papers. Doesn't really surprise me since some of ye are just cnuts, but a lot are falling into the trap set by the Sun and the like.
Part of the problem is the entitlement of wealthy, young, idolised men, who in some senses have never had to really grow up. They (some) believe they can get away with things that the common man wouldn’t. I don’t think it’s a Utd issue specifically
Allegedly you mean. It's all hearsay until proven.
I known women who've headbutted men, maybe you need to get out more
I’m not sure what’s gone on in here, but I’d be deeply offended if this doesn’t include me. I work hard to be part of these generalisations.