A BIG issue with the way we play. Very frustrating
Antony dos Santos (Out)
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At this point with Antony, surely we just see how he does under a new manager. No one is paying his book value, and a loan now doesn't make sense even if just from a numbers POV. Maybe we can have more luck next summer, well we can hope.
You need to attach that to the base of a rotating display stand.
I would not expect a team to double their transfer record to bring Antony.
can we get a clause meaning he has to play against us
all joking aside I dont think we can afford to left him go. not much depth unless there's a young player ready to step up
There's always someone looking for some kind of excuse for bellow average players in our team. Not sure how someone can argue it's the positions he is being played, he has shown so little.
It's the hope that kills.
We all hoped ETH would be the answer, the majority wanted him here. Even after two seasons of largely mediocre performances, we hoped he could turn things around. Look at how many people predicted we would finish first in that pre-season thread!
It's the same with Antony. We hope that he suddenly becomes the goalscoring wide-player that this team needs. We hope that he somehow gets a brace in a Europa League game, keeps his place and starts banging them in against Premier League sides.
He won't, because he's shit, but we hope he does. Anyway, there's no way he should be leaving as we're light enough with plenty of opportunities for game time. And maybe, just maybe, the redemption arc will commence.
We all hoped ETH would be the answer, the majority wanted him here. Even after two seasons of largely mediocre performances, we hoped he could turn things around. Look at how many people predicted we would finish first in that pre-season thread!
It's the same with Antony. We hope that he suddenly becomes the goalscoring wide-player that this team needs. We hope that he somehow gets a brace in a Europa League game, keeps his place and starts banging them in against Premier League sides.
He won't, because he's shit, but we hope he does. Anyway, there's no way he should be leaving as we're light enough with plenty of opportunities for game time. And maybe, just maybe, the redemption arc will commence.
My post was more that despite being the richest team in Turkiye, they wouldn't/couldn't bid more than 30m.
But yeah also agree with what you said.
defo. too many prawn sandwiches have been lost to his "shots"He's nowhere near good enough, but we can't afford to lose him. We'd be left with only 3 wing options. Having him in the squad for depth is necessary now.
If the manager who got the best out of him can't, then it seems unlikely anyone else will.
Although we're hardly an attackers dream of a set up as a counter argument.
Not getting near the pitch over 2 rookies and a well off the boil Rashford is strikingly worrying though
Agreed. Same as I've seen stories circulated about Casimiro going out on loan. No chance can that happen either, we would not have the depth these players give us.
Sorry but our squad from midfield upwards is just far too thin. First Casemiro and now Antony rumoured to be going.
It's not as if the youth players making the bench have much senior football experience either. Maybe if we had Pellistri or Hannibal still but we are very low on numbers at the top of the pitch.
At this rate we might as well name Tommy Rowe in the Europa League squad.
It's not as if the youth players making the bench have much senior football experience either. Maybe if we had Pellistri or Hannibal still but we are very low on numbers at the top of the pitch.
At this rate we might as well name Tommy Rowe in the Europa League squad.
If we are down to antony on the wing, we already lost. Barring maybe 3 moments in an entire season, he may as well not be on the pitch.
Both bruno and mount can play on the wing and offer more. Get rid while we can
Both bruno and mount can play on the wing and offer more. Get rid while we can
How can fenerbache loan him? Is there window still open?
If we’re sticking with this 4-2-2-2 formation then he won’t be needed. We’ll have Mount, Bruno, Amad, Garnacho, Rashford, Hojlund and Zirkzee. 7 players to occupy 4 spaces.
Will we?
If they cover all his wages and he gets a decent shop window, maybe it's sensible. His work rate is top notch and he is one of the few players we have who can actually hold onto the ball in tight spaces. But his final third contributions are terrible. Three wide players is not enough though, but if it means Bruno is shunted out to the right at times (which is not ideal) it will mean less chaos in the middle I suppose.
How far away from being ready for a taste of first team action is Shea Lacey?
How far away from being ready for a taste of first team action is Shea Lacey?
One does not simply 'have' Mason Mount for more than three games
I believe INEOS are planning to sell the entire squad and just fold the feck up.
We will need Antony at various parts of the season. No way we should get rid.
I'm not his biggest fan but we're also one or two injuries away from sticking an academy player out on the wing.
We always missed out on this thing. Remember that Chinese Super League? We sold Fellaini to them for after missed out on all those big transfer fees. Same with Saudi too. Managed to get only 4 million for Telles. Those clubs just dont have interest in our players. Coward lots of them
Traditionally closes later IIRC, Sept.13 this year.
At this stage I don’t want to let him go. We really need all hands on deck this season and the one thing I have never doubted is his willingness to work hard. There will be times we need him this season. Look at last year in the Liverpool game. Sending him away does not benefit us other than putting him in the shop window but not sure Turkey is the place to go for that.
Why? It’s clearly BS
He mightn’t but there’s a zero chance of him leaving in this window just like Casemiro
Dalot won a header from a long ball in the 2nd half on Sunday .He did well to win it and knock it on. The problem is our left back was the furthest forward .
I fail to see the problem with sticking an academy player out on the wing over Antony
Much as we would like Antony gone, this has no chance of happening because we would have insufficient wingers to get to January and we don't even have a right winger in the academy to give chances. That was Amad and he has become a starter, this season. There is nobody else in the academy to break through any time soon
Who? Give a name. There is nobody
I'm a little surprised Saudi hasn't come in for him, I think his dribbling world be really exciting for their league.
I'm literally saying ANYBODY!!!!
Antony is done, he's rubbish, should be pushed out of the club (because of his reluctance to go and "prove himself") and this includes never giving him game time
How could we loan Antony when we would only have 3 players for 2 positions. The lack of depth up in our front 4 positions is already laughable. If we had a top young winger coming through it would be one thing but we don't even have that.
Is Bakyoko hard to get from PSV?
Antony was decent in the Eridivisie so maybe we could target another RW from that league & give them Antony.
Antony was decent in the Eridivisie so maybe we could target another RW from that league & give them Antony.
Its the reason I say I'd rather have Antony stay because we need backup in that position. Hurts to know he's a very expensive backup but a backup nonetheless otherwise we have no one.
I don't fall for the memes. Theres a decent player somewhere inside him. And we are not in position of having less wingers on our squad. He should not start over Amad but still we need him on the bench at least
One of the academy can take his place
Having a youngster wont be that worse as Antony is already that bad
With proper use, he could be our Divock Origi. And I’m not even joking.
For about 5 games yes.
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