[Toshey]

Recall him and give him a run on the right.

 

[ThanksBoss26]

Good on him. Hopefully he maintains it now.

 

[Xeque_279]

Recall him and give him a run on the right.

So we've come to this.

He's found his level, let him just enjoy his time there. Best for all parties he does well and then move on.

 

[fergiewherearethou]

Recall him and give him a run on the right.

It it hasn't worked out for him here for 2.5 years be sure it will never work.

 

[Rossa]

So we've come to this.

He's found his level, let him just enjoy his time there. Best for all parties he does well and then move on.

True, but admittedly they are most likely at a higher level than United at the moment.

 

[Ekeke]

So we've come to this.

He's found his level, let him just enjoy his time there. Best for all parties he does well and then move on.

While I find that post funny too, Betis are a better team than we are.

Any calls of "hes found his level" means he's too good for us.

 

[AndySmith1990]

Clearly all of the players we've signed aren't as technically crap as they've shown during their time here. But for whatever reason they aren't able to perform at their best, at least certainly not consistently. Could be mentality, could be due to being unhappy because of a toxic culture. But whatever it is, the answer to our problems is never to bring them back here. We got rid for a reason

 

[gulli_G]

Really happy for him, hopefully we can bag £40m for him, if he keeps this up.

 

[Sir Erik ten Hag]

So we've come to this.

He's found his level, let him just enjoy his time there. Best for all parties he does well and then move on.

Are you sure we currently are at a higher level than Betis?

 

[Onerealunited]

Exactly why we should loan out players that are on long-term contracts and who has performed bad for us.
They get an opportunity to show themselves at a level and league that might be more suitable for them increasing the chances of United selling them for a more proper price

 

[RuudTom83]

It is such a United thing…

Rashford gets fat new contract after 1 good season then turns to shit.
Sancho fails miserable after big transfer.
Antony fails miserably after big transfer.
Amad performs well.
Amad gets a fat contract.
All 3 underperforming wide players moved on.
Amad gets injured for the rest of the season.

Cue said player (Antony) scoring worldies every match.

Gotta laugh.

 

[Xeque_279]

Pep's setup with City when they won the CL (that 3241) was a very different positional setup to what he played at Barcelona, even if the principles of possession football were the same. Similarly when Klopp was at Dortmund, his teams did a lot of work through their AM's, first Goetze then Reus, and a beast in Lewandowski, whereas at Liverpool his best teams involved laborer midfields, a 'creative' CF in Firmino and attacking primarily via his two wide men.

Even if you maintain the principles of your play, you have to be willing to adapt your setup to what your team needs. Our current setup is getting the best out of absolutely no one, and in some ways is making our weak spots appear even weaker.

True, but admittedly they are most likely at a higher level than United at the moment.

While I find that post funny too, Betis are a better team than we are.

Any calls of "hes found his level" means he's too good for us.

Are you sure we currently are at a higher level than Betis?

I meant the league. I'm sure we've all seen him play here. The guy looked avg against championship opponents.

Really looks confident though and things he's trying are working for him there, I had also said he would do well in that league. Less physical than what we have here.

 

[DJ_21]

His goal last night was quality.

 

[DJ_21]

One of the worst signings in EPL history turns into a completely different player three matches into a loan spell.

We are a club that simply ruins players.

I agree. It’s a bit of both. We ruin players and don’t really let them shine within the toxic environment that we have. But it may also be the physicality of the league.

 

[jem]

So we've come to this.

He's found his level, let him just enjoy his time there. Best for all parties he does well and then move on.

It’s like people don’t remember the Lingard-West Ham loan

 

[jem]

I agree. It’s a bit of both. We ruin players and don’t really let them shine within the toxic environment that we have. But it may also be the physicality of the league.

From the few highlights I’ve seen, he seems to be doing the same things, just in a more permissive environment

 

[BorisManUtd]

Glad for him. Also we may actually be able to sell in summer thanks to his form. Win-win situation.

 

[VivaJesperBlomqvist]

What a brilliant finish. Glad he's doing well, looks like he's found his level, guaranteed money in the summer then, everyone's happy.

What is our level?

 

[Xeque_279]

It’s like people don’t remember the Lingard-West Ham loan

That's harsh tbh. Lingard was a lot more proven.

 

[Xeque_279]

What is our level?

Higher than Betis. In terms of difficulty of the league and the pressure playing for the club.

 

[Tallis]

Are we able to recall him from a contract point of view. Arent those recall options generally set for the winter transfer window like Chelsea did with Chalobah? Or can we call back a player any time we want.

 

[Xeque_279]

Are we able to recall him from a contract point of view. Arent those recall options generally set for the winter transfer window like Chelsea did with Chalobah? Or can we call back a player any time we want.

I highly doubt we can and we shouldn't.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Should have also loaned them Casemiro.

 

[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

Why I don't rate La Liga. They do great in the CL because its such low intensity league

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

It’s like people don’t remember the Lingard-West Ham loan

So good that loan they decided he wasn’t worth buying.
Everyone knew it was a purple patches, including West Ham, but feck me United fans pretend he turned into Pele.

 

[Insanity]

Should have also loaned them Casemiro.

I read on Sky yesterday that he is very happy here and would like to stay with us until the end of his contract. Ideally, he would like to play more but the limited playing time isn't of much concern to him as he loves it so much in Manchester.

 

[LARulz]

So good that loan they decided he wasn’t worth buying.
Everyone knew it was a purple patches, including West Ham, but feck me United fans pretend he turned into Pele.

West Ham did want him though, he kept saying no to them (originally not when he was a freebie)

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

I read on Sky yesterday that he is very happy here and would like to stay with us until the end of his contract. Ideally, he would like to play more but the limited playing time isn't of much concern to him as he loves it so much in Manchester.

The anti Di Maria.

 

[Insanity]

The anti Di Maria.

He is our Gareth Bale, without the CL winning contributions.

 

[Champ]

Found his level....

...playing in an elite league with a team fighting for a European place...

...whilst United continue to lose and fight relegation.

 

[Antekera]

One of the worst signings in EPL history turns into a completely different player three matches into a loan spell.

We are a club that simply ruins players.

I agree with you that United have been adrift for 10 years without a fixed course, but what ruins the players is the price that United pays for them. Antony is not worth more than 30/40 million in the best of cases, he is a technically good player with good dribbling, but I can tell you that players like those do not cost 100M! The same will happen with Højlund, he is not an 80M striker. It is not that the league is inferior to the Premier League and that is why he is triumphing there, it is that at Betis they have a coach who knows how to get the most out of the players and exploit their potential and I am telling you this as a Sevilla FC fan and a passionate United follower for 20 years.

 

[Malkovich]

Why people talking like La Liga is some garbage league?

 

[SfcNervion]

Why people talking like La Liga is some garbage league?

Ignorance. ‍Maybe it is easier to slag off a league that has dominated entire 21st century, at international level, in the CL and in Uefa Cup/EL, rather than admit there is a huge institutional problem at United

 

[mctrials23]

Why people talking like La Liga is some garbage league?

Because the pace is much slower and the average quality isn't as high. You can see it in the goal Antony scored there. He tried to do that so many times at United and there was a player putting him under pressure almost every time. There were more players blocking him etc.

The Spanish league is a good league with some absolutely top sides but its not as quick as the PL and players who can't handle that won't make the transition between the two well.

 

[jem]

That's harsh tbh. Lingard was a lot more proven.

Harsh on Lingard or harsh on Antony?

 

[jem]

So good that loan they decided he wasn’t worth buying.
Everyone knew it was a purple patches, including West Ham, but feck me United fans pretend he turned into Pele.

I can only speak for myself: I only saw it as a purple patch and wanted him gone (sadly the United brass didn't feel the same way.) And in the same way, I see Antony's first 4 games as a purple patch. If he starts shredding the likes of Madrid and Barca, it might cause a rethink, but in all likelihood, he has found his level, and that level is nowhere near good enough for where we're aiming to go.

 

[jem]

Ignorance. ‍Maybe it is easier to slag off a league that has dominated entire 21st century, at international level, in the CL and in Uefa Cup/EL, rather than admit there is a huge institutional problem at United

We definitely have an institutional problem, but do you honestly think that's what was holding Antony back? I'd say our institutional problem is what led us to overpay for him and give him a wage that was nowhere near what he deserved at the time. It's hardly surprising that a sense of entitlement and greediness kicked in for him (ex. his reaction to being played at RB, his refusal to put in a cross with his right and instead continually go for glory with the most predictable of poundland-Robben attempts.) He has looked absolutely pedestrian for 2+ seasons with us, so unless something drastic changes, I'd say his performances with Betis are more indicative of the level of opposition he's facing rather than his being held back by United.

 

[Buster15]

I can only speak for myself: I only saw it as a purple patch and wanted him gone (sadly the United brass didn't feel the same way.) And in the same way, I see Antony's first 4 games as a purple patch. If he starts shredding the likes of Madrid and Barca, it might cause a rethink, but in all likelihood, he has found his level, and that level is nowhere near good enough for where we're aiming to go.

He is one of the most one footed player I can remember seeing. Especially for the money we paid. Although he did put in a reasonable amount of effort.
Hopefully the loan goes well for him. But not sure if he has a future at OT.

 

[jem]

He is one of the most one footed player I can remember seeing. Especially for the money we paid. Although he did put in a reasonable amount of effort.
Hopefully the loan goes well for him. But not sure if he has a future at OT.

Agreed.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

It is such a United thing…

Rashford gets fat new contract after 1 good season then turns to shit.
Sancho fails miserable after big transfer.
Antony fails miserably after big transfer.
Amad performs well.
Amad gets a fat contract.
All 3 underperforming wide players moved on.
Amad gets injured for the rest of the season.

Cue said player (Antony) scoring worldies every match.

Gotta laugh.

"Amad gets a fat contract"

He's on like 120k a week