He had a bad game which happens to everyone but long term my biggest worry with him is that he simply lacks the required explosiveness or acceleration to beat the players and get away from them for good from the static positions. He knows that as well most likely, thus his tendency to always opt for the safe back pass option.
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We paid for the potential. He's just 20, playing in a new league, new country. It'll take time for him to settle. Can't judge him this quickly
He's 22, 23 in February
@Sarni another one for a Championship loan?
Was a bit shite before the break and carried it on. Repeatedly failed to execute passes, sometimes even simple ones. Didn’t really take anyone on either. I know players deserve to get time but it’s a little frustrating that we’ve forked out so much on him and sancho and didn’t/aren’t really getting that instant impact you’d kind have hoped and paid for.
We need our scouting department to start earning their wages. Antony and Sancho could well turn out to be expensive flops. Man Utd are expected to challenge for titles, whereas we are struggling to get in top 4. The higher the price, the higher the expectations. And this is exactly how it should be. Hopefully, both players turn out to be top signings as I would love to be proven wrong. We are skint and we have no sugar daddy to inject cash. Signings need to be efficient, whereas our most expensive signings have been quite meh.
He's better than his recent form but I just don't see what ETH saw in him to go him at that fee. Watched a bit of Ajex and he never really stood out. His limitations are too big for a player to truly fulfil the fee we paid for him. He'll be a good player for us but I would not ne surprised if we're back in for a right winger after next year to turn us into true title challengers.
Works hard. Safe on the ball. Can't properly beat a man but tbf he is getting doubled up on every time.
I think the key to his success at United will be if he can strike up a good partnership with Dalot.
I think the key to his success at United will be if he can strike up a good partnership with Dalot.
I'm going to defend Antony, urgh.
He has been a bit cack the matches before the WC and especially last night, but even if he's not a world beater (and might never be, who knows) he's defenitely not a useless player. He just needs confidence to utilize his game. Watch him score an early goal and after that beat people with weird flicks and step overs next match. That's the type of player he is. Frustrating and inconsistent, but with moment of brilliance when he's feeling it. I definitely wouldn't dislike him as much as I do if he were shite.
I'm going to take a shower.
He has been a bit cack the matches before the WC and especially last night, but even if he's not a world beater (and might never be, who knows) he's defenitely not a useless player. He just needs confidence to utilize his game. Watch him score an early goal and after that beat people with weird flicks and step overs next match. That's the type of player he is. Frustrating and inconsistent, but with moment of brilliance when he's feeling it. I definitely wouldn't dislike him as much as I do if he were shite.
I'm going to take a shower.
Made some sloppy passes. Didn’t have the best game but he did get in a position to have a chance which he should have scored. If we can get him in form and then sancho back to his best we’ll start looking a lot better and have some good squad depth.
Massively overpaid but we knew that. Generally the team has performed better with him in the side so he's adding something at least.
Sancho should be targetting his spot if he's to make a comeback.
Sancho should be targetting his spot if he's to make a comeback.
He seems nervous, rushing passes and not really „in“ it. His crosses are not precise either whilst he also struggles to get past defenders. He played like that for Brazil too so I guess it is a matter of form and confidence. He will come good but we wont see a 80m player anytime soon
Watched him closely and some good signs. Worked hard, made some really clever runs. Didn't have a big impact on the game but I saw some encouraging stuff. Not worried considering his age, effort, skill and moving up to the Prem. Negatives would be that he struggled a bit on the ball. Has no relationship with Martial also, hopefully the new #9 and him link up better, and he and Martial develop some chemistry. But Antony wants Martial to play more like a typical #9 and he's not one of those. He's not gonna change, so Antony will have to adjust.
Raphinha was at Rennes at the same age, he's on pace to be better than him and take his Brazil job, though at the moment you'd guess Martinelli wins the LW job and forces Vinicius to the RW so he still ends up a bench player for them. Not a star, but I think he'll be a very solid starter for us.
Raphinha was at Rennes at the same age, he's on pace to be better than him and take his Brazil job, though at the moment you'd guess Martinelli wins the LW job and forces Vinicius to the RW so he still ends up a bench player for them. Not a star, but I think he'll be a very solid starter for us.
My concern is he seems to be nervous and really slow the play down whereas our other attackers were moving it at pace and knew what to do and where they would be, felt like he is out of sync with them so hoping time will help
Not in the least bit worried about this player. More excited tbf!
Ronaldo seems the only one who lived up to it
CR7? Wasn’t he a good bit below the cursed fee?
Good post and agree with much of it.
He’s had what, 8 games here? Interrupted by having had no pre season, injury and now the World Cup break (and disappointment with Brazil).
Give him time to settle, not only to the league but to his new team mates and the country he’s moved to.
His price tag really isn’t his fault and those judging him with some sort of finality after everything I’ve just said are idiots.
I see a lot of people mentioning that he seems slow, but I think is just not as fast with the ball in his feet. Seems rapid otherwise.
Still early days, hope improves as a player. Nobody can deny that it wasn't his best game last night.
Still early days, hope improves as a player. Nobody can deny that it wasn't his best game last night.
May turn into a useful player but you have to judge his success against his price tag
The argument was Raphinha went for 50-60 and we have to pay more due to dithering. Also there are no other right sided left footed wing forwards of his talent level for this price
I just think after only 8 matches, no pre season, injury and then a WC break it’s very premature to do so
14 apps, not 8, so still early days for sure.
No goals or assists in his last 11 apps for us. No assists yet in a red shirt to be more precise.
He had a blistering start and then seems to have just fallen away a bit. Still got time on his side though.
Thought you meant 100m Euros? He was 80 odd mill in sterling
Fair enough. I thought he was €80m
Rahpinha had nothing to do with Antony valuation or us dithering. There's a myth that if he went in for him earlier we'd have got him for 40 million when in fact from the beginning of the transfer window Ajax's valuation of him was reported to be 60-80 million. This was because they already lost Gravenberch and Mazraoui in pre agreement last january to Bayern.
Here's an article from early June where Ajax wanted 70- 80 million from the opening of the window
https://m.allfootballapp.com/news/E...Manchester-United-and-Arsenal-Reports/2854097
If we had proper scouts we'd have been looking at Jeremy Doku is a far better talent and can play either wing
I'm not that concerned about his form, he's relatively young and clearly not in top shape (he hasn't been playing much already?).
The issue though is I don't remember him creating much, need to check the stats but he's hardly an assist machine.
Anyway, he's not a 100m player, but he can be one I guess, but I'm not very confident as he has some clear limitations to his game.
I'd definitely go for Garnacho if I was to put my money on one of our young generation player becoming elite level. He has all the tools, just need get more experience.
Antony looks like he's been playing football on a high level for a while, but I'm a bit worried how much better can he get.
The issue though is I don't remember him creating much, need to check the stats but he's hardly an assist machine.
Anyway, he's not a 100m player, but he can be one I guess, but I'm not very confident as he has some clear limitations to his game.
I'd definitely go for Garnacho if I was to put my money on one of our young generation player becoming elite level. He has all the tools, just need get more experience.
Antony looks like he's been playing football on a high level for a while, but I'm a bit worried how much better can he get.
i get excited every time Garnacho, Antony and Bruno get the ball, even Rashford recently - haven't had that feeling since the Ronaldo/Rooney/Tevez days. Antony didn't have the best game yesterday but there's enough to show he can do alot of damage on the right-wing.
not his best performance but every player has them at some point.
the main thing is he still runs a lot, he presses very well and he’s never hiding. It’s clear he’s still trying a bit too hard and forcing things but eventually he will relax and settle down
the main thing is he still runs a lot, he presses very well and he’s never hiding. It’s clear he’s still trying a bit too hard and forcing things but eventually he will relax and settle down
I feel like even if he does nothing offensively, he’s still a useful player to have on the pitch due to his work rate. It should be the minimum you expect, but it’s been missing from the team in recent years.
How much did he cost again ? 
Love having him in the team...when Antony is the biggest negative after a match you know the club is moving in the right direction.
Not his best match but analysing a player every 90 minutes is stupid...its like having your annual review at work but it happens everyday at 6pm
Not his best match but analysing a player every 90 minutes is stupid...its like having your annual review at work but it happens everyday at 6pm
Give him time. He still brings something to the side that we didn't have which is why we overpaid so much. Best to just forget about the price tag to be honest.
He didn't play well yesterday but some of the assessments here are a bit harsh. The thing that concerned me last night was him messing up a couple of counter attacks where there was so much space to exploit, his choice of pass in those situations wasn't great at all.
I do still think there's a player in there and he can come good if he's given a bit of patience. Anybody can have a bad game and everybody knows we overpaid for him, he's probably feeling the weight of that to some extent.
I do still think there's a player in there and he can come good if he's given a bit of patience. Anybody can have a bad game and everybody knows we overpaid for him, he's probably feeling the weight of that to some extent.
The ridiculous attempt at trivela when we were 3v2 with so many better options available was so bad.
I think he was having one of those games where everything he touched turned to shit and he reacted by trying to do something spectacular to turn things round.
This line of thinking confuses me every time it comes up. Are you of the belief that you have identified a player that the Man United scouting system have not?
Early signs are not good, but I just don't think ETH has been fooled for years.
He's clearly rapid. That run he had against Burnley where he misplaced the pass to Bruno was electric. His acceleration is probably better than that of Rashford, and the run he fumbled yesterday was mostly down to the soggy pitch as the ball wouldn't move as fast as he was running. Rashford doesn't run with the ball as closely to his feet, so he won't be hamstrung by similar conditions.
Never saw anything that showed his peak would be better than what Nani displayed while he was here, and I stand by that. Cute tricks, but a lot else in it. I'll be glad to be wrong.
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