Which terrible returnee are you
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- Goals
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- Assists
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Don't give a shit about stats. I didn't get to watch the game last night, but I've seen enough of Antony to know he's a top talent. If Ten Hag can unlock it we have a great player on our hands.
He isn’t match fit. He hasn’t fully settled in yet. He is young and has a lot to learn. He cost a lot.
On the plus side he has shown some dazzling skill, has played effectively here and there, scored a goal or two for us. Gets picked for Brazil and played in the WC. Is backed by ETH who actually seems to know what he’s doing.
I dunno. How about we give the boy a chance.
On the plus side he has shown some dazzling skill, has played effectively here and there, scored a goal or two for us. Gets picked for Brazil and played in the WC. Is backed by ETH who actually seems to know what he’s doing.
I dunno. How about we give the boy a chance.
Footballer has average to poor game in his first game back in nearly 2 months.... shock
He didn't play in the final few games before the World Cup, he went to the World Cup and barely played and people are expecting him to suddenly be on top form. Give him a chance!
He didn't play in the final few games before the World Cup, he went to the World Cup and barely played and people are expecting him to suddenly be on top form. Give him a chance!
How many times have we said this over the last decade?
Too many times. But as other posters have said he appears to have attributes that increase the likelihood that he will come good and contribute to our success. I disagree that he has a ‘wand of a left foot’ though.
Another player who needs to add a bit more directness to his game and get the simple things right first.
Was watching some Messi highlights and the way he doesn't seem to slow down while dribbling is incredible despite the fact that he's lost a yard of pace.
Antony on the other hand seems to have a slower than average dribbling speed, giving the impression that he's slow. And yet he shows great speed when attempting to recover from losing possession.
Antony on the other hand seems to have a slower than average dribbling speed, giving the impression that he's slow. And yet he shows great speed when attempting to recover from losing possession.
This is the first time in the past decade that we have a good coach with a set system who knows what he wants out of this player.
Antony is young, new league, huge pressure with the fee. It takes time. Might take him a few years to truly feel comfortable. It is what it is. Look at Ousmane Dembele. Took a full contract span by it finally looking world class for Barca.
Still have no idea what he does better than other 100m players. He is a 20m player at maximum.
40 -60M in the current market, which to be fair is what we were willing to pay initially, before stretching to 80M, and then 100M for dragging our feet.
He played badly against Forest. But, this is a signing EtH has had the opportunity to closely watch and train. He will come good. I have no doubt.
Same applies to Donny??
Messi is simply a joke of mother nature. It's unfair to compare any player to him imo especially when it comes to dribbling. He is probably the only player ever has a dribbling speed equal to or even faster than running speed. All other players will be slower with the ball at their feet.
Imo Antony is of course not yet a 100m player but he's a very good player with great potential and huge hunger. However imo he still lacks a bit of strength and power to be a top player. People are worrying about him not getting past opponents but for me it's his shooting that worries me. His shooting is not very powerful. He is an inverted inside RW shooting from outside of the box with his left is a very important part of his game. To score from outside the box you need both serious power and precision. But he might fix that with time I think. Salah had a pretty week shot before his time at Liverpool if my memory serves me right.
Salah had a rocket shot when he was at Chelsea, that was what caught my eye when I first seen him.
If United are successful again and challenging for trophies and Antony is an important part of the squad who cares how much the club paid for him? 50M or 85M.
It was obvious United overpaid for him. Just leave him alone. No need to write the same shit everyday. It was just his 7th PL game (in which he scored 3 goals).
It was obvious United overpaid for him. Just leave him alone. No need to write the same shit everyday. It was just his 7th PL game (in which he scored 3 goals).
The new scapegoat.
The most sensible post in the thread.
And how many times did it prove to be right? DDG, Shaw, Rashy, Martisl, just to name a few
Why would you even bother just telling lies about things that people can check with google in five seconds?
The lad hasn't scored 18 goals in his whole career.
Even in Belgium (the even worse version of the Eredivisie) he scored 3 goals at most in one season. It’s impressive how confident he was at being so wrong
Has somebody been pulling his leg?
Maybe if we were in the 90s.
He didn’t sign Donny for 85m and actively want him in his squad did he?
He wouldn't be worth anywhere close to £20m in the 90s nor in the 2000s.
Nah. Donny was here already. EtH did not bring him in under his watch. Unfortunately, Donny does not have the physicality to play in the EPL. He is also way too passive.
The club signed him for 85m not Erik but he has watched him closely and trained him and as far as I know he did not want him to leave when they were together previously.
The bloody media has been on his case since he did that bit of skill dragging the ball and then misplaced the pass. Let's not as United fans get suckered into cancelling our own players like Maguire was.
Firstly he never cost 85m - it was 35m going up to 40m with add-ons. And not wanting DVB to leave Ajax is an entirely different thing to thinking he’s good enough to be a key part of his Manchester United team that want to win EPL’s and CLs. There is zero comparison between Donny and Antony.
It does seem like many are desperate for him to fail here.
The first part I meant Antony but I can see the confusion in the way I wrote the post.
The comparison is he had both players at his former club and he coached them both to a level that was effective in Holland and Europe.
A very good point. Our own people buy into that shit.
I can see the pattern here with Antony with borderline abuse in this thread.
Him and many others before him . I'm not saying you can't question performance but to write players off so early seems strange to me. ETH knows this guy so well and what he is capable of and for now that's good enough for me. Lots of players have had poor or slow starts for United , and then kick on and become huge players for us. Time is needed and support.
I’m not sure that’s true. Everyone always think of Evra and Vidic where that definitely happened (more so for Evra than Vidic, who only really had a handful of ropy games) but we signed them a very long time ago. Can you think of anyone we signed in the last 15 years who had a poor start and subsequently became a key players for us? Or anyone before Evra/Vidic who fits that description?
Depressingly, we’re much more likely to see new signings have a good start before ending up as not good enough than we are to see the opposite!
Just in the current first XI - De Gea was bullied and targeted for a good while at the start of his United career, Varane is now performing at his true level after a very slow/mixed start, and Dalot looks a different player.
Also Fred has gone from awful to pretty decent.
De Gea‘s been up and down for his whole United career. Thankfully seems to having one of his ups this season. And Varane was getting good reviews from his first few games and has been superb in recent weeks. You certainly wouldn’t say his United career has followed Antony’s trajectory so far.
I’ll give you Dalot. That’s a good example.
We both discussed having concerns about Casemiro and his physicality early on!
No. It's just that some of us have actually seen good young players at this club, and he's a level below them.
The teenage versions of Rashford and Martial piss all over Antony for instance.
If he was on top of his game, the media can write what the feck they want.
And some of us actually have patience and aren't so quick to write off talented players after three fecking months. I've seen enough of Antony to say I think he will be a good player for us and I also trust ten Hag's judgement. After all he's the man that managed him at Ajax and wanted to bring him to United.
Our league record with him playing is very good
obviously not great the other night
obviously not great the other night
I would Say very recently there were concerns about Casemiro (Past it ) , Matinez ( too short ) and Varane ( Past it ) .
If we delved further I'm sure there are loads of cases including DeGea and Fred etc. The point is trust the manager he sees something worth supporting.
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