I think Antoine and Lukaku would complement each other. Hope we are in for him next summer.
Antoine Griezmann
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All depends on whether they get Coutinho. If they bag him then that's the Neymar slot filled.
Barca aren't the force they were financially; they're in massive debt. Look at their recent signings - Paulinho, Cillessen, Gomes. They'll only be able to afford Coutinho because they've got all that Neymar money.
Griezmann may want to go to Barca but I doubt they'll be able to afford him unless they sell Messi or Suarez next summer.
Geography not your strong point?
Yes, he apparently said something and it was a second yellow for protesting.
Quality but not sure where we'd play him.....we need left side Bale like player and I think we are done.
Either a number 10 or a RW drifting inside the midfield, he'll succeed in both positions. I'm not worried about where he'll play.
He may be French but he has been in Spain his whole career. Look it up.
maybe, like I said he's quality but I'd like to see the equivalent of Rashford/Martial on the opposite side. TBH I think there is a gentlemans agreement is 99% in place anyway and he'll be the first of the big signings next summer
Agreed, our attack is still a couple of players short and Griezmann is a world class forward with a £87M buyout clause next summer, which will be about half of what Dybala would cost now PSG have polluted the transfer waters, as Barca are currently finding out.
I think he's off to Barca. Would be brilliant playing on the right at OT, however.
We don't know what will happen by the next summer, may be Martial will step up and cement the LW for himself so that we don't need a player there any more.
The question is whether we can still get him at the same prices as quoted this summer or whether we are going to get taken to the cleaners, Neymar style.
Atletico can't do shit about us signing him for 100m euros since that is the clause, only question is if it will turn into a wages bidding war since his clause all the sudden is quite the bargain. I can see PSG\Chelsea\Bayern and the likes joining in.
- AG not EPL proven.
- AG plays possession football. Stark difference to Jose's style.
- Can't adapt. I don't think he can adapt to different needs of Jose. He is not a complete player. Can't play defensive role.
- Appears to think he is on par with greats even though has not proven to be a match winner. Ego = locker room problems.
- He lacks size. EPL defenders are more consistently better than La Liga defenders as they have more size. More physical game.
Also, I didn't appreciate how he decided to stay. Seems like non-EPL players always prefer la Liga over EPL, why invest? Look at Coutinho. Liverpool built him up and then he goes to la Liga at first opportunity. I would rather take a EPL proven then some la Liga or league 1 or Seria A hack. Over the years this has lead to the decline in EPL quality. La Liga dumps players at outrageous prices onto EPL. EPL should invest in youth and EPL players only.
I can't get my head around why people still think we'll sign him!
He had his chance and bottled it, taking the easy option of staying in Spain.
Time to move on - he already has.
He had his chance and bottled it, taking the easy option of staying in Spain.
Time to move on - he already has.
Nope but without a bit of crystal balling, might as well shut the forum down. I think we'll continue to spend regardless of what we do this season. Griezmann commercially makes sense as the pool of true superstars in football is a shallow one, and he's definitely one of them as well as being rather good (even if I don't think he's right for us)....
I'm guessing they were all involved this summer and we were still his preferred Destination if the ban was overturned.
I can't see what would change, if anything we look like a better option if we continue to improve than we did 2 months ago
What kind of rubbish is this?
Not PL Proven. Would you have said no to Neymar joining us?
Atleti play a pragmatic style and Griezmann does fine and works hard for Simeone. If he can work under Simeone, he sure can under Jose.
All players have ego. He's a CL match winner. Scored goals vs Bayern and Barcelona to win CL ties.
You don't need size to excel in the Premier League. David Silva, Aguero, Sanchez disprove that notion.
- My opinion is not rubbish.
- I wouldn't want Neymar to join us. I don't like when MU buys players from Barca/Real, you compete with them for viewership/dollars/titles. You are effective fueling their ability to stay in front. There should be a sustainable business model. Dumping 200 mil on Neymar is no guarantee to win CL. It works for PSG because they dominate League 1. Maybe they need that CL title because winning League 1, La Liga, or Bundisliga means nothing if you are PSG, Real/Barca, or Bayern. Winning EPL means something. Also, in EPL you can not make moves like that. It is not sustainable. One year you make a bad buy, you are done. It is harder to gauge what you are buying when you are buying from other leagues (non-EPL).
- Jose favors physically large players. AG is a midget. He will be useless. I don't see a place in Jose's team. We have got so much attacking talent, why waste 100 mil plus?
- Yeah, I mention that. For CL, yes, good buy if you already dominate your league. Otherwise, it's a waste of resources to try out a unproven player. Look at Angel Dimaria, he couldn't hack it, so he left for PSG, but in CL he is proven. Imagine you spend a 100 mil + and AG can't hack it.
- No, it's not only your size, it's your fortitude, and ability to play against more aggressive and more physical defense. The worst EPL team has a better defense than worst la Liga team or league one or other.
Posts like these are hilarious. 'Bottled it' by staying loyal to the club and manager he loves playing for when they really need to stick together? To me the easy option was to say feck this, this isn't going to be a good season for Atleti and bolt out the door.
Griezmann is a "midget"? He's 5ft10. He is the same size as United's current number 10, Mkhitaryan. He's 3 inches taller than Wesley Sneijder, who Mourinho build his CL winning Inter side around. Juan Mata made 42 appearances last season, and he is 5ft7.
Players of a similar height who were key players in Mourinho teams include Michael Essien, Eden Hazard, Mesut Ozil, Luka Modric, Willian... Didn't he also identify and sign Salah in his first winter window in his Chelsea return, and that guy must be about 5ft7 or something.
Can this myth that Mourinho only likes 6ft2+ monsters die a fiery death?
Players of a similar height who were key players in Mourinho teams include Michael Essien, Eden Hazard, Mesut Ozil, Luka Modric, Willian... Didn't he also identify and sign Salah in his first winter window in his Chelsea return, and that guy must be about 5ft7 or something.
Can this myth that Mourinho only likes 6ft2+ monsters die a fiery death?
way to miss the point. He mentioned Neymar as an example of why 'non PL proven' is a BS rationale for not signing someone.
David Silva wasn't PL proven when he was signed. Neither was Aguero. And Sanchez. And Modric. And Ronaldo. And a million other examples. it's a nonsense point.
Thing is. IF Griezeman comes in January, then it' a brave man who says he was lying this summer ("6 out of 10""Staying due to transfer ban"), because it also means hes more than likely chosen us over Barca due to the agreement in principle that we clearly had with him.
If he was telling the truth and then chooses us over Barca he is exactly the sort of honest, loyal and talented player that you want at your club!
I realise there are some big IFs here, but Griezeman has set his stall out. Now we just have to wait and see if he's a billy bullsh***er or a gentleman of the game.
If it's the latter my money is on signing him in January and him replacing mata in the current starting XI.
If he was telling the truth and then chooses us over Barca he is exactly the sort of honest, loyal and talented player that you want at your club!
I realise there are some big IFs here, but Griezeman has set his stall out. Now we just have to wait and see if he's a billy bullsh***er or a gentleman of the game.
If it's the latter my money is on signing him in January and him replacing mata in the current starting XI.
I'd imagine the likliest of scenarios is that Ibra returns by Christmas and plays the final 6 months, then perhaps transitions to a coaching role and we get Griezmann in the summer.
Yeah just look at the huge Mata and mighty Mkhitaryan...
The only thing that makes me think we are taking him seriously is. It looks like he did a deal with Atleti and United. To where all 3 parties seem to kinda get what they want from a bad situation with the transfer ban.
He sorts out Atleti because they cant sign a replacement. Greizmann gets a new contract and pay rise to stay the few extra months. United get a buy out clause thats(at that time) to big to buy but reduced to the seemingly agreed asking price in the winter when they come in for him again.
Griezmann has signed a 5 year deal. Where the asking price is halved after 5 months. Something is not right. What was it 75% to join United of 60% or something like that?... It seems to me he wanted it dropped because he wants to leave in jan after getting atleti out of a hole.
But is it to us, still? Could he be another Asprilla and derail our form? Not an issue if its not to hot, it has to be said, its only been 2(3) games.
He sorts out Atleti because they cant sign a replacement. Greizmann gets a new contract and pay rise to stay the few extra months. United get a buy out clause thats(at that time) to big to buy but reduced to the seemingly agreed asking price in the winter when they come in for him again.
Griezmann has signed a 5 year deal. Where the asking price is halved after 5 months. Something is not right. What was it 75% to join United of 60% or something like that?... It seems to me he wanted it dropped because he wants to leave in jan after getting atleti out of a hole.
But is it to us, still? Could he be another Asprilla and derail our form? Not an issue if its not to hot, it has to be said, its only been 2(3) games.
yea thats kinda what i was saying... Because this 200M to 100M dont make sense after only 5 months
I always find it funny this 'He's tiny, he'll get mauled by PL defenders'" funny. Yeah, like Messi at 5'7'' has looked less of a player against PL teams in the CL...
Seems to me some are just watching some YouTube clips and are getting hyped up.
Ok, here is question, suppose you buy AG for 100 mil, at what point would it be a fail? Conversely, how many goals or assists should he rack up to justify the price tag?
Ok, here is question, suppose you buy AG for 100 mil, at what point would it be a fail? Conversely, how many goals or assists should he rack up to justify the price tag?
Reminds me of the 'Messi has only done it in Spain' reasoning.
Yea because lesser players such as Alexis Sanchez clearly struggled in the Prem. (Of course he is still a great player, but no where near the likes of Messi)
I sincerely hope Messi stays at Barcelona, if he does leave, I honestly think he'll go to Man City. And that is frightening as well as bringing his likability down to a 0 for me.
Man city is stacked, how can you justify buying Messi? What position would he play? What about his age?
How has Sanchez helped Arsenal win EPL? They can't even qualify for CL.
Honestly I think he missed the boat. At this point we don't need him and he'd be a luxury signing - not a bad one, but certainly not something we require. What we seriously need is splash some cash at a good pacy winger and a natural left back.
If Griezmann came to United, his success or failure is dependent on trophies won at United. If Jose wants him and thinks Griezmann would be a key piece in returning major silverware back to OT, who are we to disagree?
For all the goals that was RVN, United only won the Premier League once during his time in Red. So to answer your question, if United win the Premier League and or Champions League with Griezmann it will be successful. If United don't win either during an era of Griezmann in Red, it will be a failure.
I don't know if you are incredibly thick or what. How are those similar? We were never interested in the likes of Gaitan/Garay despite being linked with them every summer until they finally go somewhere else. This is the first transfer window where we are seriously linked with Griezmann, and every man and his dog saw it was happening until the transfer ban verdict came out of course. Griezmann was even interviewed on TV about it. But hey, let's ignore all those and pretend they didn't happen.
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