Antoine Griezmann

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Griezmann would be great on the right or in the hole behind Lukaku. Why on earth wouldn't anyone want him in our squad.

Snap him up with another left back and we'd be unbeatable.
 
MDFC Manager said:
Griezmann behind Lukaku is going to be dynamite
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If you see the positioning of Mata against the hammers, Griezmann could surely play there. He was on the right of the three behind the striker, but was very tucked in. He could play very freely, if not directly behind the striker.

He would be a dream signing.
 
Noc-Z said:
You think Griezmann would come to be an option in the squad?
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It's the same as Lukaku and Matic coming to United as an option. They just happen to be first option/choice. Griezmann would start every time United go with two central mids in a 4231 or with 3 CBs in a 352/3511
 
edcunited1878 said:
It's the same as Lukaku and Matic coming to United as an option. They just happen to be first option/choice. Griezmann would start every time United go with two central mids in a 4231 or with 3 CBs in a 352/3511
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Not really, we didn't have a genuine first choice number 9 before Lukakus arrival. We didn't have a genuine first choice CDM before we signed Matic. But we do already have real options in Griezmanns position. This is why I maintain that we need genuine wingers and then fullbacks before we consider a player such as Griezmann.
 
The feck is going on in this thread?

'Had his chance', 'what would Martial do?'

Of course we should go for him when he's available.
 
Rozay said:
I wasn't dreaming, and am not particularly in hope either, as I had expressed throughout his thread that I wasn't keen on him. I just meant that it wouldn't massively surprise me if things changed this summer. A part of him obviously wants to leave, he planned to do so this summer. We do not know all the circumstances, but if things changed, there's obviously an actual will to leave in there somewhere.
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Was saying back on July 1st that I wouldn't be entirely surprised if there was still a U-turn and he joined this summer. Just find it hard to believe that there was no scenario in which a player who really wanted to join United could be convinced to still come. Hard to believe those feelings were just turned off.

I admit that he wasn't my first choice, just because he isn't really a player who can beat men, which I prioritised. That said, I concede that he's certainly the best option around at the moment that could possibly be attainable.
 
Didn't he sign a new contract with Athletico Madrid?

So why are we considering this option again?
 
christinaa said:
Didn't he sign a new contract with Athletico Madrid?

So why are we considering this option again?
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Because his contract extension was at the time seen (perhaps optimistically) as a good will gesture from Atletico for not leaving them in the s**t when their transfer ban was upheld. As his buyout clause allegedly stayed the same, then it is seen that any potential deal can still be on the cards once the ban is lifted.
 
christinaa said:
Didn't he sign a new contract with Athletico Madrid?

So why are we considering this option again?
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The option never went away. He only agreed to stay because of the transfer ban, otherwise he was coming here. I see no reason to think he won't stick with the original plan to come here once Atletico are free to sign players again. The new contract was obviously just a loyalty reward for him staying the extra season.
 
As a striker, I don't think we need him. His goals ratio isn't great and we now have Lukaku (Maybe Zlatan) to do that job

As a attacking winger/number 10, then yes he would be a great addition. Would help improve counter attacks and build up play.
 
If the ESPN story is true, I would imagine than surely its referring to Greizmann as the January signing?

Sign him in January so that we don't have to wait until after the World Cup or anything like that next summer.

(Although it could also be in order to wait for Rose to prove his fitness or some other anticlimax like that).
 
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Buy him and loan him back til Jan with clause that he can't play in champions league
 
Do you think Greizmann might be the reason that we have dillied and dallied about Perisic all Summer...?

I've always felt that the whole Perisic saga has something about it that doesn't quite ring true, if we were that desperate for him, surely we would have just paid up and got him signed.

Could it be possible that we've been holding back, with Greizmann still in our plans..?
 
Ikon said:
Do you think Greizmann might be the reason that we have dillied and dallied about Perisic all Summer...?

I've always felt that the whole Perisic saga has something about it that doesn't quite ring true, if we were that desperate for him, surely we would have just paid up and got him signed.

Could it be possible that we've been holding back, with Greizmann still in our plans..?
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I don't think so, I genuinely think it's the club trying to pay what they and Jose consider the right price for a player that, by all accounts, was a bit further down the list of options. But Inter saw the way the window was going for us and most English clubs, coupled with a new (tough and proven) manager likely wanting to access his squad and not easily release any starters from a team that has been struggling anyway, and Inter having a little more cash since the owner invested.

Griezmann I just don't see happening. Yes, it's still incredibly frustrating that the ban scuppered any move, and that frustration has only increased as the window has got sillier and €100m seems something like a bargain. But he hasn't stayed because Atletico offered him a bumper new deal, him and his agent haven't used us to engineer a big move elsewhere, he's simply seen the club that has supported him (paid him well too, but that's football) and taken him to the next level, be punished for the rules they've broke, and decided that right now isn't the right time to hamper that club even further. A bit of empathy in a sport that moves at such a pace and with such increasing ruthlessness, that his decision almost feels out of place. They've been good to me, it's my turn to repay that loyalty in the relative short term.

Nothing has changed at Atletico. Yes, the Costa buzz is not going away. But it's still January before their squad can develop in a league where they are still the scrappy underdog punching above their weight. He'll stay until January, likely even May. Get them back in the CL despite half a season of restriction and leave with his head held high and the Atletico faithful upset but on the whole wishing him well.
 
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Noc-Z said:
I don't rate Mkhitaryan or Griezmann as wingers. I don't rate Mata as a winger either. Mata and Mkhitaryan are best in the middle. So I maintain the we need wingers and than full backs as a priority over a player like Griezmann.
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Griezmann is an upgrade on Mata. Getting awesome upgrades is nothing but good news for us. A bit like what we did with Matic.... suddenly Herrera is benched and Matic is MOTM. All good news. We better first team quality and better depth.

An upgrade at LB would also be great. And long term replacement and and different option for Valencia.
 
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Robertd0803 said:
If the ESPN story is true, I would imagine than surely its referring to Greizmann as the January signing?

Sign him in January so that we don't have to wait until after the World Cup or anything like that next summer.

(Although it could also be in order to wait for Rose to prove his fitness or some other anticlimax like that).
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Thought that as well. Holding off for 4th signing until January? Fits the narrative around him.
 
Why he will join in january, tho?

He already earns a shiton of money, also. And his team is better. Manchester isn't a big upgrade.

I would move on. If you want a SS, Dybala is great option. Sanchez will be a free agent, also.
 
Icemav said:
Griezmann is an upgrade on Mata. Getting awesome upgrades is nothing but good news for us. A bit like what we did with Matic.... suddenly Herrera is benched and Matic is MOTM. All good news. We better first team quality and better depth.

An upgrade at LB would also be great. And long term replacement and and different option for Valencia.
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He isn't really, because Mata has spent most of his time at Manchester United on the RW. Where he is, in my opinion, not at his best. If we want an upgrade on Mata, we should be signing a proper right winger. Mata is most effective as a 10 but we have hardly used him there. Mkhitaryan is also best as a 10 and at least he seems to be getting time in his best position now. Really, Griezmann would replace Mkhitaryan more so than Mata. The more I think of it, how do you see him as an upgrade on Mata at all? OK - sign Griezmann, play him in his best position which is second striker, which we don't really need and isn't where Matas playing. So play him in his second best position - number 10, again not where we're playing Mata. So who plays on the right wing after he signs? Mata as usual? Mkhitaryan? And who plays on the left? Rashford, who is a striker? Martial, again, a striker? I don't see the signing of Griezmann solving any problems in the final third.
 
Seen talks of psg starting to make moves for Oblak? An outgoing transfer of such status, could it possibly see griezmann feel a little betrayed and very disappointed with Oblak? And with atletico if psg can convince them to sell for less than his (Oblak's) release clause?

Or maybe seeing others possibly leaving, has gotten him think over his decision to stay
 
SSSSnake said:
Griezmann would be great on the right or in the hole behind Lukaku. Why on earth wouldn't anyone want him in our squad.

Snap him up with another left back and we'd be unbeatable.
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Steady
 
Danillaco said:
Thought that as well. Holding off for 4th signing until January? Fits the narrative around him.
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But he'll be ruled out of Champions League. If the season is going well for Athletico, he would prefer to stay and finish the job. I'm pretty sure this won't happen in the January window.
 
Cantonagotmehere said:
I don't think he'd move in January and be frozen out of the Champions League. I think the best we can hope for is next Summer and hopefully Barca don't go after him.
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The Cup tied thing is just unfortunate but the whole transfer shouldn't hinge on it. For all we know Atletico/us may already be out or get eliminated in the second round of the Champions League meaning that for the sake of 2 games the transfer has fallen through.
(I sincerely hope that doesn't occur to us though).


Atletico will finish 2nd at best in La Liga and should be pretty much guaranteed CL football the following year anyway with or without Greizmann.


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Why he will join in january, tho?

He already earns a shiton of money, also. And his team is better. Manchester isn't a big upgrade.

I would move on. If you want a SS, Dybala is great option. Sanchez will be a free agent, also.
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Dybala will cost insane money and thats if Juve let him go. Sanchez will be even more sought after next summer than now by PSG/City and we aren't remotely linked with him even now bizarrely.

Hopefully with Greizmann the groundwork has already been done so we aren't starting from scratch like we would with Dybala/Sanchez and its very possible that had it not been for the transfer ban Greizmann already agreed to join us so hopefully eliminates competition for him.


Anyway all theories and hypotheticals.
 
Noc-Z said:
Not really, we didn't have a genuine first choice number 9 before Lukakus arrival. We didn't have a genuine first choice CDM before we signed Matic. But we do already have real options in Griezmanns position. This is why I maintain that we need genuine wingers and then fullbacks before we consider a player such as Griezmann.
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How many genuine wingers are there in world football, let alone the type of winger United need? Fullbacks don't score the amount of goals necessary to win leagues. Wingers get confused with modern day left and right forwards.

In addition, while I agree that United need fullbacks, you don't get something before another...you get it if and when it's available as soon as possible. Lads, let's wait until we sort out CM before we get a center forward because why?

If there's a player available, then it doesn't matter what order they come in at.
 
I foresee a future where a lot of Caf members are going to be complaining that we didn't get an up front agreement for a January signing, With people wailing and gnashing at Woody for not having done a deal to guarantee bringing him here. If Griezmann really wanted to move here a deal would have been announced, pre-agreement, whatever. This board is going to be a shit show when he turns up at Barca or PSG with people blaming everyone but the blue eyed boy.
 
Noc-Z said:
He isn't really, because Mata has spent most of his time at Manchester United on the RW. Where he is, in my opinion, not at his best. If we want an upgrade on Mata, we should be signing a proper right winger. Mata is most effective as a 10 but we have hardly used him there. Mkhitaryan is also best as a 10 and at least he seems to be getting time in his best position now. Really, Griezmann would replace Mkhitaryan more so than Mata. The more I think of it, how do you see him as an upgrade on Mata at all? OK - sign Griezmann, play him in his best position which is second striker, which we don't really need and isn't where Matas playing. So play him in his second best position - number 10, again not where we're playing Mata. So who plays on the right wing after he signs? Mata as usual? Mkhitaryan? And who plays on the left? Rashford, who is a striker? Martial, again, a striker? I don't see the signing of Griezmann solving any problems in the final third.
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I see him as an upgrade because he is a better player. Also better than Miki. So he would improve the team as it currently stands in either position.

If we sign a world class right winger then bonus.
 
Not sure why so many people think he'd come in January. It's so rare for huge deals to go through then.
 
Sandikan said:
Not sure why so many people think he'd come in January. It's so rare for huge deals to go through then.
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If this summer has taught us anything, it's that this TV money and mega-rich owners have warped what we thought we knew about transfer windows.
 
Imagine buying him next summer and snapping up Sanchez on a free :drool:.

In all seriousness though, I really hope we pursue this deal in Jan/Summer. Him behind Lukaku would be absolutely lethal.
I never get the whole cup tied problem when it comes to Europe either. So he can't play in Europe, but would still help us in the league.
 
iamjacks said:
If this summer has taught us anything, it's that this TV money and mega-rich owners have warped what we thought we knew about transfer windows.
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I just hope if we have any sort of deal agreed we locked the price in at "big for early summer 2017 value", rather than what it'll be in 6months!
 
Sandikan said:
Not sure why so many people think he'd come in January. It's so rare for huge deals to go through then.
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Mata, Torres and Carroll just on top of my head, and with the current market going crazy, it makes a lot more sense now than ever before.
 
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