club have saidf he's in there future plans and is not fror sale
Anthony Martial to Spurs | Bouhafsi : "Bid rejected"
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I would be happy if we signed Danny Rose like, I think the lack of attacking threat from left back is one of our biggest problems, but I wouldn't want him at the expense of Martial.
I think some people are forgetting how talented he is; he's a much better player than Rashford and Lingard for a start.
Said it already, JM`s judgment shouldnt be trusted when it comes to young guns. He doesnt like him, fine. Someone who`s motto is "if you are old enough, you are good enough" shouldnt be allowed to push young talents out of the door who might be our future.
Feck Danny Rose, I'd only take Alli over Martial.
For me the whole point of signing Rose would be to augment Martial's performances from the left wing. Without Martial it's basically pointless.
I don't want Rose for United because he's class, I want him or someone of his ilk because I think they can help Martial produce the world class form he's capable of.
Lingard easily. Rashford made just as impressive an impact for me with his breakthrough. If we are rating them on potential to be world class, I'd have both of them on an 8.
Exactly. Unless he has an outstanding season, he's not gonna be in Russia and he will want out if that happens and rightfully so.
Martial can only do so much to fight for his place if Jose keeps on selecting Lingard because he works harder or runs more. If he ends up at Spurs, would he not have to fight his place? Of course he would. It's a silly point people are trying to convince themselves with as reason Jose is treating him badly.
With Pochettino's coaching and playing, he would most likely claim the LW spot and become a world class attacker. Spurs press higher, harass the opposition and attack far more intensively. Martial would be able to focus and spend more of his time attacking in the opposition half instead of spending more time in his own half or chasing opposition fullbacks.
It's simply too hard to see him failing there.
Actually a sinister part of me would want this to happen just to see egg on some people faces.
What do you think of Shaw's chances of doing that?
The guy's injured yet again. And when he's back I don't imagine it'll be for long, he'll get injured again shortly after. I love him and think he's a huge talent but I've given up hope that it'll happen for him here, we should have signed Mendy.
OK, cool.
Re. the fee, I'm not sure Levy is very interested in 'fair'. If (IF) Pochettino would really like Martial and if (IF) Levy knows that a player wants to leave and is willing to take a pay cut to get it, and if (IF) he knows that a player would like to come to Spurs, then eventually he'll offer the max. available within his budget, bearing in mind any desire on Pochettino's part to sign other players in addition.
In this hypothetical situation, if United are willing to sell but insist on more, then obviously there would be no deal. IMO Levy would not pay more than £35m tops. I could be wrong.
Agreed. Ali or Kane for me.
Martial has the potential to be one of the very best players in the world.
A bid of £25-£30 million in this current market for a player like Martial is both ridiculous and insulting.
Which is why the deal will not happen even if all the (IF)'s are true. This is a PR exercise, Levy can then turn around to Poch and Spurs fans that he went for a top player that you don't need to Google but United demanded too much.
Typical caf, reject a bid somehow turns in to an anti Jose thread. 
No need for the (IF) I won't misinterpret things and think you're stating facts. I'm more than happy to engage you in honest dialogue.
If that's the case it'll be no deal. The only way spurs could even afford him would be a player exchange.
Not going to happen, but what would you say right now to a straight swap between martial and Danny rose? One player clearly after bigger wages, the other clearly would like more guaranteed first team action. Career wise, it makes sense. What say you?
We paid an upfront fee of £36 million rising to about £55 million two years ago. Levy is in dream land if he thinks he's getting him for less than £60 million.
Why make an offer that you know will be rejected? I'm sure clubs make enquiries as to the asking price and get at least a starting negotiating point. Anyone who pays anny attention to the way that the market has gone knows that Martial is obviously worth way more than £35m.
Yes, but that's not the way that transfer deals work. Because a club overpays for player X, does not mean that this becomes the immoveable benchmark for all future deals.
Typical caf, reject a bid somehow turns in to an anti Jose thread.
I don't understand those who are talking about Jose hates young talents and not fancy them while we already rejected the bid. Rejecting the bid proves their point wrong but they are twisting it to prove the opposite.
This forum never fails to impress me.
Probably to gauge an understanding if United would be willing to sell (if you don't ask, you don't get). I also suspect there are more political reasons for the bid. Rose has made Spurs look like a poor mid-table club in the past week and so there is some pride at stake.
Levy may also buy into the notion that United are terrible negotiators and play on that from an end that is different to how he is used to.
If they really did offer £25m for Martial, that's a total insult.
If I was Woody I would contact Rose's agent tonight and offer him £150k per week, then I'd contact Alli's agent and offer him 200k per week. That should spark a few conversations within the Spurs dressing room.
If I was Woody I would contact Rose's agent tonight and offer him £150k per week, then I'd contact Alli's agent and offer him 200k per week. That should spark a few conversations within the Spurs dressing room.
Well, actually it's just a media story that some posters are taking as gospel.
Of course it's possible that Levy is doing it just for a laugh to see the feathers ruffled.
I doubt Redcafe posters are the only ones taking this media story as gospel.
Once upon a time in la la land.
That is blatant tapping up to be fair. In any case since Walker's move and Lingard's contract, I'm sure Alli and Rose are fully aware how much they can earn elsewhere.
Me neither.
It's not tapping up. Rose said he wants to play North and wants more money - United would he simply helping him fulfill his dream.
Yeah let's sell our most exciting attacker when the likes of Lingard and Mkhitaryan are regular starters in the side.
Bid 85m for Alli and 45m for Rose. We were willing to pay that much for Bale alone.
Levy wants to dance. Get on the phone with their agents and promise them double their current salary and a nice sign on fee.
Levy wants to dance. Get on the phone with their agents and promise them double their current salary and a nice sign on fee.
25 million is a joke right?
We should counter this slap heads stupidity and offer Dele Alli 200k a week
We should counter this slap heads stupidity and offer Dele Alli 200k a week
We're finally arriving at the truth.
Any deal proposing the move of Martial to Spurs is absolutely impossible for numerous reasons already mentioned.
Why is everyone under the impression that Shaw is injury prone ? He's had a groin injury and a foot ligament injury since breaking his leg from a shocking challenge.
I wouldn't exactly call that injury prone.
I could be wrong here...but a team's exec calling another player or his agent and offering him how much money he can get is direct tapping up. Anyway it was a joke response from my part. The point is Spurs players are fully aware of what they can earn elsewhere.
If that's the case, he's really picking a fight with the wrong club and I'll get the popcorn.
Considering Uniteds financial strength versus Spurs blantant financial weakness for the next number of years while the stadium is paid for, with added unrest within your camp regarding low wages and lack of signings, I know who I'd be backing.
where are you getting that figure from mate?
I think that's Levys way of telling us to feck of with the Rose offers?
Levy is on spice if he thinks we'd sell him Tony M.
@GlastonSpur if you don't believe Levy will go above 35mil for Martial, are you not concerned for the future of your club while this new stadium is being built?
There is no way you will be able to attract the kind of talent needed to consistently challenge for the title with 35mil budgets. Rose expressed his concern about bringing in 'players you have to google'. I doubt it will be long before Kane/Alli/Lloris are fed up with this penny pinching and look for a move elsewhere.
If you bid 70mil for Martial (you said it yourself you have the money from outgoings) it would certainly tempt us and would show a real statement of intent and could give you an extra dimension in attack. General profits generated by the club could go towards another signing or two to bulk up your squad.
There is no way you will be able to attract the kind of talent needed to consistently challenge for the title with 35mil budgets. Rose expressed his concern about bringing in 'players you have to google'. I doubt it will be long before Kane/Alli/Lloris are fed up with this penny pinching and look for a move elsewhere.
If you bid 70mil for Martial (you said it yourself you have the money from outgoings) it would certainly tempt us and would show a real statement of intent and could give you an extra dimension in attack. General profits generated by the club could go towards another signing or two to bulk up your squad.
No source buddy but I've seen it quoted several times online tonight. I was guessing the figure was in the region of £35m, but people are saying it's £25m. I have no idea though.
jeez, anything less than £70 million is a joke in the current market!
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