Anthony Martial to Spurs | Bouhafsi : "Bid rejected"
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I've already said that she/he has a track record of being proven correct. Can we stop going over the same old tired ground? Because if you don't believe that Martial wants out then that's absolutely fine with me and you are, of course, perfectly entitled to your opinion.
Wise up! In a market where players like Walker and Sigurdson are going for £50m, you would tak £60m for Martial? You do realise we spent £56m on him right?Please explain to me what Man United would do with £60m in today's market? And why the hell would we strengthen a rival?
Init. But what do you bet Spurs offered us a price less than what they sold Walker for?
Please explain to me what Man United would do with £60m in today's market? And why the hell would we strengthen a rival?
Nice deflection. If it's a journo or an ITK then you should have no issue in telling us who they are and how they know.
Also aside from Martials own statement that these rumours are bull shite, I don't care if he's unhappy and wouldn't be bothered either way. So you can't use that as an excuse. I'm just interested in your source.
I'm simply telling what I've heard. I haven't read any story about Martial on the internet, because I'm not that interested in him. If you think it's made-up bollox then so be it.
And if perchance the story of the bid is true, then you may very well be right on counts A, B and C.
Tut, tut . BS ITK talk.. No place for that nonsense here.
. BS ITK talk.. No place for that nonsense here.Of course the miserable gits did. Probably something pathetic in the region of £35m, which would sum them up perfectly.
Exactly. We spent 56m on him and it hasn't worked out. He doesn't fit into the managers plans and he's on the bench most weeks. What's the difference in selling Martial and say... selling Memphis/Schneiderlin? None of them are United players in my book. They were all LVG signings.
Please explain to me what Man United would do with £60m in today's market? And why the hell would we strengthen a rival?
I take it you probably value him at 100m then? Not a chance. His value has dropped. If he was so good, it wouldn't be Spurs, Sevilla and Inter after him. It would be Barcelona and Real Madrid. They're after Mbappe after all.Thank God you're not in charge of our club.
The problem with ITK's is that they can never provide evidence to support their claims.
Prove it.
I don't know who she/he is, nor how they know ... I only know that they she/he is usually right and has been proven right over a long period of time, which is plenty good enough for me. If it's not good enough for you, then OK, that's cool.
Can we now change the subject?
One disappointing season (where he wasn't even our worst attacker) for a 21-year old and it hasn't worked out?
Except you know that season he was our top scorer and best player and isn't comparable at all to Memphis and Schneiderlin. Check his stats last season compared to Lingard who got a big fat payrise before calling Martial some sort of failure and not working out.
If you don't know who someone is, how do you find out when they're right?
But they can ... by things they say usually turning out to be true. Yes, there are lots of fakes, but a few aren't. And this one isn't.
He is only 21 and last year he went through a tough time personally with his ex-wife, which would of course affect such a young guy. Mentioning him along with Memphis and Schneiderlin is pathetic, as those two never showed any quality at United, but Martial was our best player just 2 seasons ago. We can't just turn out back on youth after one poor season - you do realise players like Mbappe and Dembele might have poor seasons also, right?
Very obviously, by the things they say turning out to be true.
For that to be the case, his manager has to actually play him.
But how do you know they say them if you don't know them? Is it an anonymous twitter account? Or just someone you have absolutely no ties to?
Also, how much would you pay for martial
You can't afford to have "one disappointing season" when you're at a club as big as ours. Look at Depay, Falcao, Schweinsteiger, etc. We shipped them all out cause they weren't cutting it.
I would be happy if we got our money back on him to be honest. I don't think he's ever gonna be a world beater. He's a decent wee player but I don't see him being up there with Neymar and those guys. I think that "Ballon d'Or" clause in his contract brainwashed people into thinking he was an absolute guaranteed future world class star..... To put that into perspective, we have a buyback clause on Bebe. Contract and clauses don't really guarantee anything.
We were poor in 15/16 till Rashford came on the scene. Martial was our top scorer by default pretty much. Rooney couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo and LVG shipped off Hernandez, RVP and Falcao cause he was convinced Wazza was still world class. That's what ultimately cost us that season.
As for Schneiderlin... his stats for United were actually pretty decent. Stats don't tell the whole story.
As for Lingard... Mourinho is clearly more impressed with him than Martial. And I trust the managers decision. Why have a 60m bench warmer? It makes no sense. Jose more than likely won't change his mind about him and it's nothing to do with his natural talent or stats. He simply doesn't fit into the system and his off the ball work is questionable. He never makes runs in behind, isn't a traditional winger who likes to cross it into Lukaku/Ibra like Perisic would do and on top of all that, he's not exactly lightning quick off the ball either. Plus his body language rubs me the wrong way.
His best attribute is his close control. I'd probably say that's about the only thing he really excels at.
This time a year ago, there were a great many United fans - I include myself among them - whom considered Martial to be a world class prospect. You don't just lose that potential after one mediocre season in which, by his own admission, he suffered personal issues that have interfered with his progression somehwat. He's still a baby at 21, still learning his trade, still learning about life. Give the lad some time to come good, we shouldn't even be entering a discussion on him leaving the club for any price.
@Jaybomb you have just described Tarabt, Martial is a fecking great talent. If our manager doesnt know how to use him, that doesnt make him Tarabt overnight.
I bet this wasnt your opinion of him in 2015/2016 season.
I bet this wasnt your opinion of him in 2015/2016 season.
I'm done talking about this. It's a thread about the alleged bid for Martial.
Re. the fee. that would depend on how much is available in Levy's budget for us to spend this summer - taking into account the £70m we've brought in from player sales - and who else we might want to sign ahead of him, perhaps in other positions.
So taking all this into account, which of course involves some guessing, given our currently restricted financial circumstances I'd not imagine that Levy would go beyond £35m at the very most.
Appreciate that, but Occam's razor suggests you've just made something up and can't back it up.
£35million + Danny rose would be a fair deal IMO
then levy can get to feck!
I presume you are wearing a flame retardant jacket in preperation for the inevitable bombardment coming your way, or perhaps you enjoy the attention. Who knows.
Sums up my reaction:
£35m in a time when Swansea wont budge on £50m for Sigurdsson.I would imagine if Levy offered that it didn't even get as far as a rejection.
in a time when Swansea wont budge on £50m for Sigurdsson.I would imagine if Levy offered that it didn't even get as far as a rejection.Why the feck would I do that now that it's actually got far more interesting!
So you expect me to believe you because you have had a non-existent conversation with somebody you have never met or did they (this person you don't know)send you an email mysteriously out of the blue ?
Where they a prince from a foreign land asking for funds to help release the enslaved Anthony Martial and take him to the promised land in totenhams new stadium ?
25 mill
It would be a stupid deal that as Martial has world class potential. There's no point in selling him to anyone, never mind a direct competitor.
Levy is taking the piss surely?£35m? While they demand £50m for the likes of Dier and Walker? Only £5m more than what they paid for ... Sissoko!!!
Edit: was the bid £25m? So £5m LESS than what they paid for Sissoko.
What a bunch of idiots. Pathetic club!
Edit: was the bid £25m?
So £5m LESS than what they paid for Sissoko. What a bunch of idiots. Pathetic club!
I will want Jose out before I'd want Martial out.
I think martial has the potential but I honestly see Danny rose addressing a problem we've had for a while on the left side.
But of course, if we get first season martial back, then he's worth 9 figures in the current market.
If you think that's the case - and hey your the Spurs fan... then I can only see Ed and Jose laughing their tits off. Even if they wanted to sell him, and they don't it would be for a hell of a lot more than £35m. Didn't Spurs spend £31.5m on Sissoko last year? obviously not the same position, but Martial is far far better than your record signing.
This is my view as well. His preference for reactive football and attackers who can 'do a job' is already starting to annoy me to be honest; selling a top talent to Spurs would exacerbate those concerns.
This is about of a mad one. We have long standing interest in him and reportedly tried for him before he signed for united. No doubt if we thought a deal could be done we would be all over it. No idea how likely it is though, probably next to impossible.
£35m? While they demand £50m for the likes of Dier and Walker? Only £5m more than what they paid for ... Sissoko!!!
Edit: was the bid £25m?
What a bunch of idiots. Pathetic club!
It's not a serious bid, it was made to appease a lot of fans who have itchy feet. Spurs have probably been egged on probably by Martial's agent who wants the club to know that he has options outside of United as well.
We did a lot of this during Moyes' tenure as well, make pointless unrealistic bids.
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