Anthony Martial to Spurs | Bouhafsi : "Bid rejected"

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JohnnyKills said:
Yeah but that stadium money means you can't spend big on players. That's obvious right?
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Of course (or not without borrowing even more money or selling players), but that does not make the club "penny-pinching".

In fact Spurs probably have invested/are investing more money in the club's future than any other team in the Prem right now, even taking into account the massive spending on players by several other clubs.
 
TheReligion said:
Not really. Martial himself has said he doesn't want to leave and his brother reiterated this pre season.
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As said no smoke without fire. We've seen this sort of situations in numerous occasions. Players will deny that they will move until they do

kps88 said:
He was given more minutes than either of them if you look at the league and EL.
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Lingard is shit. Mkhitaryan is as much unpredictable as Martial is. Which makes me wonder if Mou is the problem. Don't take me wrong he's a great manager and I love what Im seeing till now. However, in terms of wingers his schizoid like opinion is damaging us. He want wingers to backtrack, win the ball and still create loads of chances and goals. Not even Ronaldo could do that let alone Mkhitaryan or Martial.
 
Hullyback said:
Spurs get accused of a lack of ambition.

Proceed to start bidding for players they know they have zero chance of getting to feign ambition and appease the fans that can't see through the transparent ploy.

In other news, some bloke down the pub called me a wimp so I offered out Mike Tyson on Twitter. That'll show him!
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Fan.

The Spurs lot on this forum are pretty decent lads save one, he who need not be named.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Well, then tell me what the point is, because I don't know what it's supposed to be.
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You've already had it explained, so what's the point in me explaining it again for you to dodge and then repeat the same thing again later?
 
100% deserves to start based on Pre Season form. Made a few goals from nothing and was more productive than anyone bar Mkhi.

People say he needs to prove himself to start but the simple fact is whenever he proves himself he is not rewarded with a consistent starting spot (5 games or more).

I think it was against Middlesbrough last season that was a perfect example. Motm and then was dropped the next game. The only reason i advocate for martial so much is we struggle to score yet play players who score and assist way less than Martial.
 
Rado_N said:
You've already had it explained, so what's the point in me explaining it again for you to dodge and then repeat the same thing again later?
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If you are referring to the fact that overpaying for player X does not necessarily set a benchmark for the price of player Y, then perhaps you'd care to explain what this has to do with the price that Kane would sell for or why it would mean that Kane would sell for less than £90m.
 
GlastonSpur said:
You don't think Kane would sell for more than £90m? OK, that's your opinion I guess, and good luck with it.
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Your fecking basis on reaching Kane's valuation is based on players going for considerably more than what they are worth. Jesus fecking Christ glaston, stop digging that hole. :lol:
 
Looking at Martial in pre season i reckon he will be huge for us this season and cement his place in our first team as a regular starter. Even in his worst season he has more no.of assists & goal compared to our other attackers.
 
GlastonSpur said:
If you are referring to the fact that overpaying for player X does not necessarily set a benchmark for the price of player Y, then perhaps you'd care to explain what this has to do with the price that Kane would sell for or why it would mean that Kane would sell for less than £90m.
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Do you spend all your time arguing over semantics? The implication was clearly that we've overspent on Lukaku.
 
GlastonSpur said:
If you are referring to the fact that overpaying for player X does not necessarily set a benchmark for the price of player Y, then perhaps you'd care to explain what this has to do with the price that Kane would sell for or why it would mean that Kane would sell for less than £90m.
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It's your blatantly hypocrisy in using one transfer fee as the basis for players value when it suits and then turning around and saying you can't do that when it doesn't suit.

No doubt you'll move the goalposts again now. Don't bother.
 
Summit said:
Your fecking basis on reaching Kane's valuation is based on players going for considerably more than what they are worth. Jesus fecking Christ glaston, stop digging that hole. :lol:
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No it isn't, or not unless (as I've already said) United fans think they've been taken to the cleaners over Lukaku's fee.

If that's what you do think, then let's hear it. If that's not what you think, then I'd suggest you stop scratching around at the bottom of an imaginary hole.
 
GlastonSpur said:
No it isn't, or not unless (as I've already said) United fans think they've been taken to the cleaners over Lukaku's fee.

If that's what you do think, then let's hear it. If that's not what you think, then I'd suggest you stop scratching around at the bottom of an imaginary hole.
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Let me ask you this Glaston...If we hadn't have bought Pogba for 90m, Lukaku for 75m and if Neymar hadn't been purchased for 200m would you still say that Kane would be worth more than 90m? Bare in mind that you would now be saying he if sold would be worth a world record fee? Give it a rest. :lol:
 
devilish said:
As said no smoke without fire. We've seen this sort of situations in numerous occasions. Players will deny that they will move until they do



Lingard is shit. Mkhitaryan is as much unpredictable as Martial is. Which makes me wonder if Mou is the problem. Don't take me wrong he's a great manager and I love what Im seeing till now. However, in terms of wingers his schizoid like opinion is damaging us. He want wingers to backtrack, win the ball and still create loads of chances and goals. Not even Ronaldo could do that let alone Mkhitaryan or Martial.
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This is why Mourinho never lasts more than 3 years at clubs, he just burns out teams too quickly. If that's what he expects from players out wide. This is why I don't think he will win the PL at united, his lack of evolving has a manager and realising these kind of methods don't work long term, will be another club he leaves. Unless he realises he can't expect wingers to do 2 jobs I don't see how he can be here long term. It's why we have fullbacks, the midfielders we have got, we don't need wingers tracking back every game, because it burns out our attacking players
 
Hullyback said:
Spurs get accused of a lack of ambition.

Proceed to start bidding for players they know they have zero chance of getting to feign ambition and appease the fans that can't see through the transparent ploy.

In other news, some bloke down the pub called me a wimp so I offered out Mike Tyson on Twitter. That'll show him!
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This. And that's from a Liverpool fan.

Embarrassing from Spuds.

Tell you what though, Martial and cash for Dele Alli and we're on.
 
GlastonSpur said:
You don't think Kane would sell for more than £90m? OK, that's your opinion I guess, and good luck with it.
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Kane would cost more because of the club he currently plays for not because he's a much better player
 
CM10 said:
Do you spend all your time arguing over semantics? The implication was clearly that we've overspent on Lukaku.
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The implication was that if £90m is the going rate for Lukaku, then the price for Kane would be mind-boggling. In other words, IMO Kane is the better player by some margin.

And if £90m was the going rate for Lukaku in this inflated market, and seeing as you desperately needed a striker, then it doesn't mean that you've necessarily over-spent.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Of course (or not without borrowing even more money or selling players), but that does not make the club "penny-pinching".

In fact Spurs probably have invested/are investing more money in the club's future than any other team in the Prem right now, even taking into account the massive spending on players by several other clubs.
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Yeah I think the original poster was referring to player investment when he said the club was penny-pinching.

Anyway I'd personally be happy if Spurs got martial, provided it was a loan only. Doubt levy would go for that but who knows?
 
GlastonSpur said:
The implication was that if £90m is the going rate for Lukaku, then the price for Kane would be mind-boggling. In other words, IMO Kane is the better player by some margin.
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Is it fair to assume you also think the price for Lukaku is mind-boggling, then?
 
GlastonSpur said:
The implication was that if £90m is the going rate for Lukaku, then the price for Kane would be mind-boggling. In other words, IMO Kane is the better player by some margin.
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It's actually £75m and IF it increases to £90m then that means several add-ons would be engaged, hence indicating success. But the transfer fee is £75m, or do you quote add-ons for all players as if they are a certainty?
 
Rhyme Animal said:
This. And that's from a Liverpool fan.

Embarrassing from Spuds.

Tell you what though, Martial and cash for Dele Alli and we're on.
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I don't see why Spurs fans can't understand that they've got to pay for the stadium, so have to save money on the team for a couple of years.

Would fans really throw a tantrum if this reality was spelt out to them?
 
GlastonSpur said:
The implication was that if £90m is the going rate for Lukaku, then the price for Kane would be mind-boggling. In other words, IMO Kane is the better player by some margin.
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I wouldn't say the distance is far between them. Kane only outscored Lukaku by 2 last season while playing at a much better team and taking more penalties. The only reason he beat him was because he went nuclear in the final 2 games which were both dead rubber. Kane spent time out injured so I'll give him that but I beleive both are at a similar level and one isn't clearly better than the other. I guess this coming season will say a lot about how they compare.
 
Summit said:
Let me ask you this Glaston...If we hadn't have bought Pogba for 90m, Lukaku for 75m and if Neymar hadn't been purchased for 200m would you still say that Kane would be worth more than 90m? Bare in mind that you would now be saying he if sold would be worth a world record fee? Give it a rest. :lol:
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What's your point? It's obvious that an era of hyper-inflated prices will push up the selling price of all players, including Kane.

In fact, it will push up prices especially for the likes of Kane ... seeing as strikers tend to sell for more money than players in other positions (goals are gold dust) and Kane is world class.
 
GlastonSpur said:
What's your point? It's obvious that an era of hyper-inflated prices will push up the selling price of all players, including Kane.

In fact, it will push up prices especially for the likes of Kane ... seeing as strikers tend to sell for more money than players in other positions (goals are gold dust) and Kane is world class.
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My point is you aren't considering that inflated market when you made your valuation on Martial. When it was pointed out to you that you bought sissoko for 31m, so Martial should be considerably more you then came out with that because we overpaid for one player, that doesn't set a benchmark for future buys. Are you not getting that sissoko's price is inflated because of an inflated market? And in fact a year on and the market is even more inflated. feck me, what do you need spelling out? Fact is you have been very hypocritical like @Rado_N pointed out, you trying to explain, or stand by what you said is just making yourself sound very silly.
 
Summit said:
My point is you aren't considering that inflated market when you made your valuation on Martial. When it was pointed out to you that you bought sissoko for 31m, so Martial should be considerably more you then came out with that because we overpaid for one player, that doesn't set a benchmark for future buys. Are you not getting that sissoko's price is inflated because of an inflated market? And in fact a year on and the market is even more inflated. feck me, what do you need spelling out? Fact is you have been very hypocritical like @Rado_N pointed out, you trying to explain, or stand by what you said is just making yourself sound very silly.
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No. I said that Spurs overpaid for Sissoko. I didn't say that you overpaid for Martial. And we overpaid for Sissoko because IMO he's not worth the money paid, inflated market or not.

And nor have I made any valuation of Martial. I simply gave my opinion as to the max that Levy would be willing to pay, partly given our current lack of much liquid cash.
 
IrishRedDevil said:
It's actually £75m and IF it increases to £90m then that means several add-ons would be engaged, hence indicating success. But the transfer fee is £75m, or do you quote add-ons for all players as if they are a certainty?
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Depends whether or not it's a spurs player. He spent last summer telling us that if Sissoko left spurs before they had finished paying the instalments for him then they wouldn't have to finish making them, thus making the deal cheaper. :lol:
 
Bidding for Martial starts at £100m. Once you've reached a figure the club deems an appropriate valuation, you'll then promptly be told to bugger off.
 
Rusholme Ruffian said:
That is massively undervaluing him. If he had just had a season like his first in the current market he would be worth near to £100 million. Now obviously he's coming off the back of a disappointing season and hence isn't worth that now, but if he went to Spurs and had a great season he'd be worth that again...maybe even more looking at what Mbappe is rumoured to be going for.


That's not really our problem though is it? I would like nothing more than to see Martial become a regular starter this season, but it needs to be on merit - we shouldn't be playing or selling him because he wants to get in the World Cup squad...
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It shouldn't tbh and at the end of the day the interest of the club matter. However you can definitely see that some players who don't necessarily deserve to play more than him (based on what we see which is limited tbh).
 
GlastonSpur said:
The implication was that if £90m is the going rate for Lukaku, then the price for Kane would be mind-boggling. In other words, IMO Kane is the better player by some margin.

And if £90m was the going rate for Lukaku in this inflated market, and seeing as you desperately needed a striker, then it doesn't mean that you've necessarily over-spent.
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But you clearly rate Kieran Trippier as one of the best right backs in the world so we have to factor that in to any assessment of Spurs players.
 
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