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Are people really suggesting that Martial be some sort of super impact subs? The kid is way too good and has too much abilities to waste them for only sub appearances. His recent good cameos shouldn't curse him to be seen as this super sub to run a tired defenders.

Its like people have forgotten all the bag of abilities Martial has which are essential to be in the team from minute 1. Martial doesn't need tired or disorganized teams and defenders to play well. he is our most dangerous attacking player, why on earth should we keep him as some sort of impact sub? Today alone there were instances where I saw us waste on the counter which would have resulted in much more dangerous situation had martial been involved.

Martial isn't a sub player, he is a starting player material. We need his abilities from minute 1.
This. It's annoying to see some folks now downplaying his performances by saying they were against weak or tired legs.
We were actually on the back foot when Martial came on today leading by only a goal. Swansea were far from beaten. They looked more likely to equalize than we scoring. Then Tony Martial came on along side Fellani and we put them to the sword. Is that a coincidence?
What else does he have to do to start?

I saw Rashford come on at times last season and while he had an impact in some games, the levels were nowhere near what we are getting from Martial currently as a sub. Regardless the CAF was on Mourinho's back for him to start and there even a popular thread on this issue. I wonder how many people reasoned then that Rashford only looked good because he was coming on against tired legs.

People saying he wouldn't have gotten the chance Rashford missed are telling porkies. Martial creates far chances for himself especially on the wings than Rashford and it's fair to say he would gotten a chances of his own and he stands a greater chance of scoring as he's simply a better finisher than Rashford.

It's Rashford that should be used as a sub as his top level is nowhere near Martial's.
 
I've said it before it's a good job he had a shit season last year otherwise that 100 million bid would be on Martial instead of Dembele this summer.

Looks like he'd have been up for it as well..

 
Must be a nightmare for defenders to mark Marcus for 60 mins only for martial to turn up and run at them. Two brilliant cameos in a row. Hope he gets his start.
 
Should have come on at the 55-60 minute mark. Excellent again. Against a midfield dropping deeper, his close control is better than Rashford's raw pace. Rashford won't be able to kick the ball into pace and run onto it without getting crowded.
 
I've said it before it's a good job he had a shit season last year otherwise that 100 million bid would be on Martial instead of Dembele this summer.

Looks like he'd have been up for it as well..



Uh..:confused::lol:

He's praying for the victims of the terror attack...
 
I've said it before it's a good job he had a shit season last year otherwise that 100 million bid would be on Martial instead of Dembele this summer.

Looks like he'd have been up for it as well..



Take it you didn't hear about the terror attack?
 
I've said it before it's a good job he had a shit season last year otherwise that 100 million bid would be on Martial instead of Dembele this summer.

Looks like he'd have been up for it as well..



Not sure if serious...
 
Holy shit :lol::lol::lol: massive feck up on my behalf, thought he was referring to the Real Madrid v Barcelona game.
 
Really cool finish for his goal but I wouldn't start him.

Don't fix what isn't broken springs to mind, this is working right now. No need to change. Realistically how can we improve much on two 4-0's ?
 
Really cool finish for his goal but I wouldn't start him.

Don't fix what isn't broken springs to mind, this is working right now. No need to change. Realistically how can we improve much on two 4-0's ?
You can start the player who has directly contributed to 3 of those goals? Lukaku, Pogba, Miki and Martial are producing the numbers atm, and should be first 4 non-defensive names on the team sheet.
 
Really cool finish for his goal but I wouldn't start him.

Don't fix what isn't broken springs to mind, this is working right now. No need to change. Realistically how can we improve much on two 4-0's ?
It was 1-0 through a scrappy goal before he came on today. We weren't exactly cruising. Our lead against West Ham doubled only after he came on. I don't see how our starting options have proved to be more effective than him as of yet, so why wouldn't you start him?
 
It's easier to score against a team that's stretched out and tired.

Not sure about the starter claims.

It's easier to find space and make chances against a stretched team, but taking them is a much more objective matter. Rashford was in the same position against Madrid and fluffed his big chance, as well as one today, whilst Tony is two for two, so I'd say he's definitely earned the right to claim the spot for now.
 
"Anthony Martial is working hard. He is confident. The French language connection is there to help him a lot and get to the level we know he can be because the potential is huge."

Mourinho post game

HUGE?
*Insert Trump's meme
 
Really glad for him that he's started the season strongly. Am slightly torn on what to do with him right now though. It's clearly working well bringing him on as the game gets more stretched and not like Rashford/Mikhi/Mata are playing badly but at the same time he's such a threat. I think it could be good for him to keep this role for a bit as he gets more confidence and builds his maturity and will keep the others on their toes as well as standards can't slip. If he keeps it up though then will be hard to keep him out the team and can see him and Rashford both coming in and out of the team as they'll both go through bright periods and dips, just have to hope the dips don't overlap!
 
We should try him and Rashford as starters on the wings.

Martial did good but Swansea changed their style and were vulnerable to counters. Our team as whole has difficulties to break ultra defensive opponents.
 
We should try him and Rashford as starters on the wings.

Martial did good but Swansea changed their style and were vulnerable to counters. Our team as whole has difficulties to break ultra defensive opponents.
I really don't think Jose fancies those three up top. And let's be honest, you're not getting the benefit of a right footed forward, that plays on the right hand side.

Add to that, the poor defensive work rate and it ms a recipe for failure imo.
 
Most of you would have made the claim for Solksjaer to be an automatic starter too. Not saying martial is a super sub but both goals scored when our opposition looked tired and had been chasing rashford all game. Saying that I think it will be hard to keep playing him from the bench.
 
So after watching pre season games and our start t the league, some people still maintain that he should still be used as an impact sub? So all those numbers he's been delivering, people would rather ignore those for some unchanged side theory when in truth the flood of goals have coincided with Martial introductions. We were on the back foot just minutes from his introduction, so saying he came on to a tired team isn't true at all. Swansea were starting o ask question and we had an uncomfortable spell. We brought in more threat and dismissed them, nothing to do with tired defense.

We scored 6 goals with him on the pitch and our attack has looked the best in the last 10-15 minutes in our last 2 games. Martial didn't come to blowout scoreline and just added something on top, he came on on tight 1 goal leads and contributed to our blowout scoreline, this alone suggest and shows the need to have his attacking threat from the start.

Reducing Martial to some sort of super sub is a silly notion. He's a dangerous player that would contribute to the team from the first minute.
 
Can't get this theory that he should be kept as a sub because he has done so well as a sub. Players want to play. He has earned to play. So does Rashford start by default so that we can keep the better one on the bench as a strategy.
 
Can't get this theory that he should be kept as a sub because he has done so well as a sub. Players want to play. He has earned to play. So does Rashford start by default so that we can keep the better one on the bench as a strategy.
This
 
At a specific time. The flood of goals has coincided with his introduction after the opposition has been run ragged for 60+ mins.
That same opposition just few minutes prior to Martial's introduction were starting to pin us back. We could have ended that game very uncomfortably trying to defend that 1-0 lead, it's only after we increased our attacking threat that we became comfortable and the flood gate opened. How is it hard to see.
 
It's easier to score against a team that's stretched out and tired.

Not sure about the starter claims.
That would be true if he was just starting out not having done it in his first season. The form he is showing is him getting back to the level we know he can operate at and he needs to be encouraged. If he doesn't get a more prominent role after what he has done he could easily slip back into his shell.
 
People saying he played well because the game was more open.
They forget his dribbling is an important factor in why teams open up.
Once he starts dribbling into the middle of the pitch, players don't have a choice but to drift out of position.
 
It's easier to find space and make chances against a stretched team, but taking them is a much more objective matter. Rashford was in the same position against Madrid and fluffed his big chance, as well as one today, whilst Tony is two for two, so I'd say he's definitely earned the right to claim the spot for now.

I'd give him a chance to but I don't it's a clear-cut decision either way. Likewise with him/Rashford vs. Mata. They're all contributing something very useful at the moment so I think they should all feel a bit aggrieved about being dropped. The good thing is when the team's playing well it tends to be easier for those left out to swallow!

We have to acknowledge that Rashford kept grinding away at the defence and contributed to the tiredness that Martial capitalised on. Under Mourinho Martial has generally been less effective than Rashford at injecting a spark into the team when the opposition defence is tightly packed so it may well be that the current setup is the ideal one at this point. Hopefully Martial with a bit of confidence can break through that and add another spark to our team.
 
I'd start him ahead of Rashford. Rashford can do the super sub thing running against tired defences. Martial in form is easily the better player.
 
This could be another master stroke from Mourinho. Starting Rashford, who is guaranteed to run his socks off for 70 mins.

Bring Martial on,who is the better player of the two, when the game is stretched.

It's worked well twice now, and I'm not sure if the reverse would be as effective, given Tony's defensive workrate.
 
Must be a nightmare for defenders to mark Marcus for 60 mins only for martial to turn up and run at them. Two brilliant cameos in a row. Hope he gets his start.
I think it probably is. Which is why I'm entirely fine with not changing a thing, just yet.
 
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